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[flyingjer]

hi all,

i am a new member to this forum looking to do my next cycle within the next month or so.

my stats
6'4"
260lbs
20% bf
training for the past 6 years
24 years old
i would like to put on some nice solid lean muscle mass any suggestions would be great.

i spent the past couple weeks on muscletalk and realized there must be an american site thats similar to this so thats how i got here.

Alright well i am going now...off to the Gym

 

[hammertime30]

hi all,

i am a new member to this forum looking to do my next cycle within the next month or so.

my stats
6'4"
260lbs
20% bf
training for the past 6 years
24 years old
i would like to put on some nice solid lean muscle mass any suggestions would be great.

i spent the past couple weeks on muscletalk and realized there must be an american site thats similar to this so thats how i got here.

Alright well i am going now...off to the Gym

I'm a bit confused, you say that you are 20% bf and want some lean muscle mass? Do you mean that you are looking shed fat? Because at 260lbs buddy you have lots of muscle mass, but it just hidden under the body fat!

 

[Apexx]

Welcome,

I would start with your diet. Get yourself down as close to 10% (or lower) as
possible. I know that's a big difference, but you gotta have something to shoot for. Right now you have a bit too much fat to notice any lean muscle gains.
Anything you gain is still going to be covered up by the fat.

Shed that extra fat and you'll be amazed at the body that's under there.
(especially with the size that you have)
You may find out that you don't even need to hit the sauce.

Good luck bro.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

welcome to EF

 

[slat1]

Welcome! I agree with the guys. I would lose the bf. It will help your mindset and workouts when you can see the muscle fibers/pumps.
You have plenty of muscle though.... 208lbs of lbm!
Have you ever tried test ent with EQ. You can keep size and gain strength while dieting on this one. I have enjoyed it in the past. I am 6'3" at 240 @ 8 - 9% so we are in the same lbm catagory. Not sure what you have under your belt for previous cycles but I would go 500mgs test ent ew with 600mgs of EQ ew for ten weeks. Get your HCG and Clomid before you start!

 

[wellbilt]

welcome

 

[Smokescreen]

Welcome bro! Pick up as much knowledge as you can. We got a lot of smart bros here!

 

[wootoom]

welcome you will learn alot from here on in

 

[The_first_athlete]

I try to be at 10% pre bulk cycles. I was at 14% before my last bulk cycle and the shit just blinds you and creeps up on you kicking up to 20%.

 

[flyingjer]

i have not done a cycle i was looking to do one get my muscle mass up and then cut some fat looking for soem suggestoins on what to do
i was thinking something like this...i got suggestoins from a few people

1-8 deca
1-4 some sort of test injectable
4-8 winny
4-8 tren

nolvadex and proviron throughout cycle
and clomid for Pct
dosages i was going to get some more advice

 

[BIGJAKE]

welcome bro

 

[googlepig]

welcome aboard the ef express

 

[flyingjer]

anybody want to comment about the prospective cycle i posted above

 

[Apexx]

flyingjer, is this your first cycle?

 

[hammertime30]

anybody want to comment about the prospective cycle i posted above

We understand that what was posted is not exactly what you wanted to hear but it's the truth....If you are already 260lbs at 20% bf, you don't need to cycle just yet unless you choose a very mild one like 400mg EQ and 200mg test so that you can hold on to more of your muscle while cutting fat...If you hit a cycle while holding 20% bf, you are more prone to gyno which is more problems then what it's worth as well as major bloating being that your diet is the reason for 20% bf in the first place. Get your diet together first and try to get your bf down to 15% and lower. You are 260lbs dude meaning you already have some serious muscle mass, but in order to see it, you need to cut down the bf%. Cycling is never the cure for bad dieting, it will just make it worst!!!! The choice is yours...I'm out!!!!

 

[Apexx]

We understand that what was posted is not exactly what you wanted to hear but it's the truth....If you are already 260lbs at 20% bf, you don't need to cycle just yet unless you choose a very mild one like 400mg EQ and 200mg test so that you can hold on to more of your muscle while cutting fat...If you hit a cycle while holding 20% bf, you are more prone to gyno which is more problems then what it's worth as well as major bloating being that your diet is the reason for 20% bf in the first place. Get your diet together first and try to get your bf down to 15% and lower. You are 260lbs dude meaning you already have some serious muscle mass, but in order to see it, you need to cut down the bf%. Cycling is never the cure for bad dieting, it will just make it worst!!!! The choice is yours...I'm out!!!!

I agree. You have to concentrate on losing the bf. If you start cycling without doing that first, you're not going to be able to see the muscle, but you're going to get bigger. Which is only going to make you look fatter than you are. Then you're next cycle you'll probably add more juice because you think that you didn't use enough last time to get the results you want.
Do you see where I'm going with this.
If you must do a cycle, try a light cycle of test, or anavar if you can get it.
Like hammertime said, this will save your muscle while your cutting

Good luck

 

[Hoss]

welcome to EF

 

[flyingjer]

thanks guys for the advice..yes this would be my first cycle this was a suggested cycle from an experienced person that knows me and what actual shape i am in i was wanting some more advice though...also i haev not read anything about EQ what is that..and would test enanthate or prop be the best for this lighter stack?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

We understand that what was posted is not exactly what you wanted to hear but it's the truth....If you are already 260lbs at 20% bf, you don't need to cycle just yet unless you choose a very mild one like 400mg EQ and 200mg test so that you can hold on to more of your muscle while cutting fat...If you hit a cycle while holding 20% bf, you are more prone to gyno which is more problems then what it's worth as well as major bloating being that your diet is the reason for 20% bf in the first place. Get your diet together first and try to get your bf down to 15% and lower. You are 260lbs dude meaning you already have some serious muscle mass, but in order to see it, you need to cut down the bf%. Cycling is never the cure for bad dieting, it will just make it worst!!!! The choice is yours...I'm out!!!!

I agree.

EQ=boldenon undec. Your source should have it.