new guy with some q's

[snapgrabinchop]

Hey all, Im new to the website, not new to lifting and somewhat new to steroids.

I started tren ace and some nova a little over 2 weeks ago and havent noticed much change besides some strength gains and a little trouble sleeping. I had some concerns with getting side effects so I have only been taking 1cc every three days. Ive had a few comments that i look better but I havent noticed much and now want to amp it up a bit.Tomm I am getting some prop and planning on stacking it with the rest of the tren. Is this alright? My entire cycle would come out to be:

2 weeks tren
2 weeks tren and prop stack
2 weeks prop
Then some type of end of cycle antiestrogen

I have been advised to get another bottle of tren to take for another month after this runs out so it would be this

2 weeks tren
4 weeks tren and prop stack
2 weeks tren
Then some type of end of cycle antiestrogen

Is it alright to be on cycle this long and is it alright to set it up like this with the staggered cycles?

 

[702daswoll1]

If I were you I would stop my cycle completely and stock up on everything you need. Not just roids but also your post cycle therapy stuff and everything else from needles on down. Once you have done that (or while your doing it) do a shit load of research because you have no clue whatsoever what you are doing. Tren A should be shot every day or at worst every other day. So that right there is a bad thing you are playing yo-yo with your levels and thats bad. Not disrespecting at all but bro you need to stop everything and start over when you have a better understanding of all this. There is ALOT to learn.. Good luck and PM me if you need any advice.

 

[GUARDIAN]

STOP TAKING THE NOLVA WITH TREN!!!!!

Tren is a horrible first cycle.

 

[snapgrabinchop]

I was worried about the sides so the guy who sold them to me told me to do the 3 days...I figured he knew what he was talking about. This isnt my first cycle, I did test two years ago and gained 15 pounds. I understand your telling me to start over but I promise you I have access to everything I need or could need within a day. And Ive asked around locally with people I know who body build etc, and have gotton about 1000 different suggestions, its whats confusing me.

And no nolva until post cycle? Could someone tell me why? I dont want bitch tits.

 

[GUARDIAN]

nolva can upregulate progesterone receptors with nandrolones (tren & deca). i wouldnt use nolva during or after your cycle. u shouldnt be using nolva on cycle anyways unless u got gyno symptoms and even then it is not the best choice.

 

[snapgrabinchop]

nolva can upregulate progesterone receptors with nandrolones (tren & deca). i wouldnt use nolva during or after your cycle. u shouldnt be using nolva on cycle anyways unless u got gyno symptoms and even then it is not the best choice.

When I took test I didnt get the hardness or the sensitivity but my nipples got larger and "spongier" for lack of better words. They started doing this again so I was advised to do the nova.

So is the second cycle acceptable? or even the first?

Thanks for the replies

 

[dabuffguy]

When I took test I didnt get the hardness or the sensitivity but my nipples got larger and "spongier" for lack of better words. They started doing this again so I was advised to do the nova.

So is the second cycle acceptable? or even the first?

Thanks for the replies

You need to stop until you know what the heck you are doing. The fact that you didn't research this out and study what you were going to do to your body with certains drugs shows recklessness and a lack of care for yourself. I'm sorry to say, but what you dove into was about the worst first choice for steroids, and running nolva with tren is what you don;t do. this "guy" that you got the stuff from is also an idiot for suggesting it. Be smart, be cautious and don't be ignorant of these types of things if you indulge. These are very powerful drugs, and you need to know everything you can before getting into them.

 

[bw1]

When I took test I didnt get the hardness or the sensitivity but my nipples got larger and "spongier" for lack of better words. They started doing this again so I was advised to do the nova.

So is the second cycle acceptable? or even the first?

Thanks for the replies

Who the hell gave you that advise? Stick around and do some research.

 

[eddymerckx]

I was worried about the sides so the guy who sold them to me told me to do the 3 days...I figured he knew what he was talking about. This isnt my first cycle, I did test two years ago and gained 15 pounds. I understand your telling me to start over but I promise you I have access to everything I need or could need within a day. And Ive asked around locally with people I know who body build etc, and have gotton about 1000 different suggestions, its whats confusing me.

And no nolva until post cycle? Could someone tell me why? I dont want bitch tits.

drug dealers are not always the best source of information. you need to hit up this site and get an e-book by Nelson Montana or George Spellwin.

http://www.elitefitness.com/amember

 

[79steeler]

Snapgrabinchop the two bro's that have replied to your post know what they are talking about. Stop what you are doing and listen to them.

You need to do alot of research and gather everything that is necessary to do what you are doing in a safe and intelligent manner so that you don't run into problems, and if you do run into problems you know how to handle them and have the proper stuff on hand to do so.

I would highly recomend that you do your research here at E.F. and get yourself a Platinum Membership, so you can use the search features of the site.

Read all the sticky's at the top of the forum, particularly the Post cycle therapy sticky, and the rules of the site.

 

[snapgrabinchop]

Im doin clomin post cycle, the only reason I started doing the nolva was the puffy nipples and the puffiness has gone away. Im not going to just start over, i dont have the cash for that. I also am purposely not taking a very long cycle, I dont need to gain that much just make up for having had a needy gf for a year and not being able to wo haha. So what I have got so far is:

1. Get off nolva
2. Take my tren shots every other day at least

So, getting test prop tomm.....

 

[conundrum]

you should take the advice being graciously given to you!!!

 

[eddymerckx]

if continue with nolavadex and tren, start saving for the surgery---

 

[the elite addict]

He won't stop until you tell him what he wants to hear. Oh well, atleast you guys tried.

 

[snapgrabinchop]

He won't stop until you tell him what he wants to hear. Oh well, atleast you guys tried.

Ill Ive learned is to quit....So assuming I havent started

4 weeks tren and test prop 1cc every two days of each
2 weeks tren 1cc every two days
then chlomin 75 mg daily

Is this acceptable? And no, I dont want to be on some crazy 3 month cycle..I dont need to be the hulk , just play some catch up..10-15 pounds of hard muscle. Unless thats what I need to do to be safe..then just say that and Ill do one of the really long cycles Ive seen stated on here.

oh and I def learned not to use nolva till post cycle...unless your getting gyno...which I was starting...so I did it...but Im going to get gyno anyways because I took the nolva...come on which is it?

 

[bw1]

Ill Ive learned is to quit....So assuming I havent started

4 weeks tren and test prop 1cc every two days of each
2 weeks tren 1cc every two days
then chlomin 75 mg daily

Is this acceptable? And no, I dont want to be on some crazy 3 month cycle..I dont need to be the hulk , just play some catch up..10-15 pounds of hard muscle. Unless thats what I need to do to be safe..then just say that and Ill do one of the really long cycles Ive seen stated on here.

oh and I def learned not to use nolva till post cycle...unless your getting gyno...which I was starting...so I did it...but Im going to get gyno anyways because I took the nolva...come on which is it?

Settle down and listen. Don't take nolva with nandrolones. This was already explained earlier. "Some what" new to steroids. I take it that this is your first cycle?

 

[littlegiant]

Ill Ive learned is to quit....So assuming I havent started

4 weeks tren and test prop 1cc every two days of each
2 weeks tren 1cc every two days
then chlomin 75 mg daily

Is this acceptable? And no, I dont want to be on some crazy 3 month cycle..I dont need to be the hulk , just play some catch up..10-15 pounds of hard muscle. Unless thats what I need to do to be safe..then just say that and Ill do one of the really long cycles Ive seen stated on here.

oh and I def learned not to use nolva till post cycle...unless your getting gyno...which I was starting...so I did it...but Im going to get gyno anyways because I took the nolva...come on which is it?

go for it snappy

 

[snapgrabinchop]

No its not..did test b4 and only did it for 4 weeks and was happy with it..I was told to do the nolva if my nipples started getting puffy,(someones even said that in this thread) so I did..ive only done that for 3 days. Ill stop I understand that. Its not that I havent done research, its that it seems theres alot of different opinions out there. I did research, started the tren, wanted some more gains, and was told it was ok to start prop with it. I know people stack prop and tren, I was just worried about starting it late after ive already done tren for two weeks. Thats the answer I was looking for, and I guess now is there something wrong with a 6 week cycle, because I dont understand why im getting flamed..Im by no means an idiot but I need some consistent information.

 

[GUARDIAN]

do u have an AI on hand? any dostinex?

 

[snapgrabinchop]

No I dont, Is that better for post cycle?

 

[conundrum]

You obviously have not done any research. All of your questions could have simply been answered if you had done your research. You can tell you haven't done your research just by the questions you ask.

Now go do some research and then when you ask an educated question, you'll get better responeses.

jmo

 

[hehateme000]

Bro you need to know what you are putting in your body and what is happening on the cellular level before you even touch steroids. You dont even understand why nolva and tren shouldnt be taken together, so you shouldnt be near them.

 

[natecr]

so your running the tren for two weeks... then running tren and prop for 3?????
so basically you have two 10ml bottles of tren and one 10ml bottle of prop???

You need to run test with the prop all the way through.. and you need some letrozole incase you get gyno.. DO NOT TAKE NOLVADEX... For PCT take hcg if you can get it... or you can get clomid from ag-guys..

questions should be answered.

your cycle should have been tren and prop through and through from start to finish with AI on hand for gyno and pct.

 

[GUARDIAN]

No I dont, Is that better for post cycle?

I dont even know how to respond to this. Sounds like u jumped head first into this.

If u r willing to stop your cycle cold and do proper pct (that i will help u with) PM me and we will work through this and I will help u get started on some proper research.

 

[cobracock1979]

have dostinex/cabaser (same thing different brands) on hand - tren can cause a different type of gyno (progesterone triggered). If you dont wanna start lactating get some dostinex and use 0.5mg e3d if you get puffy nipples.

you also need an anti e on hand in case you get test gyno (hard fatty lumps), ie letrozole (Femora) or arimidex. Femora is better as it also helps combat tren gyno a bit. Its extremely strong so dont use unless its necessary (research signs of gyno+dosages of Femora).

I use proviron on cycle to suppress e from test - works for me but other alternatives are available. Do some research READ Bro!