New Cycle (Test-E) & (Deca) Question! Thanks!

[Jbjeepin56]

Hey everyone its my first time on elite fitness! HELLO!

I have been working out most of my life since Middle school, all through high school from football and now I ready to start my first cycle! The past year I have dedicated my self to staying healthy and eating good. I am 6 feet tall, 180-185lbs???, 25 years old...and not sure about body fat.

So I got some Deca and some Test E

My question is about the other meds I should be taking during and after my cycle is over.
I want to know what I should take as far as nolva and stuff like that!

I have not started. I want to get it right before I start.
So far this is my plan

Week 1-10 Test 350mg a week dividing dose monday and thursday
Week 1-10 Deca 300mg a week dividing dose mon and thursday

I think this is a good begginner cycle!? I just want to know what other meds I should run along with it and the meds I should run after cycle is done... and when i should start taking them. Im not sure how test or deca will effect my body that is why im asking and i wont know till i try! Thanks alotttttt to any one who talks to me about it!!! you will be great help. sorry if this was too long! Thanks

Josh

 

[Jbjeepin56]

no one? damn

 

[sweed]

what's going to happen. Your balls are gonna shrink and you won't be able to get it up....
haha.
Well for the most part you should be fine. you have low doses, which is good for a first cycle. Some prefer a test only cycle for a firdt timer because if you are prone to sides and get them, what compound will it be from? if its 2 and you have not taken either before it's hard to tell from which compound the side(s) come from.
During the cycle you can take human chorionic gonadotropin ( hcg) 2 times a week at 250mcg to help recover and testicular atrophy ( shrinking balls). An AI ( aromastase inhibitor) can be taken to reduce estrogen sides like water retention and gyno. do not take nolva with deca.


After the cycle 'post cycle therepyl (pct) is to jump start your natural testosterone production again while it was suppressed. There are a lot of drugs/ supplements you can take from clomid to stack from PP ( Loook at the PCT sticky at the top of the page!)

There is more research you can do before starting, but it's good to see you asking first rather than starting, finding something wrong and then asking.
What does your diet and training look like? do you have somewhat of a guess at bf? can you see your abs?
FWIW- I did my first cycle at 500mgs test ew for 12 weeks. with a dbol kicker. Awesome cycle. Maybe you can save the deca for your 2nd cycle, but some love that stack for mass.
Do you know what aspirating means? Just checking to see if you have done some research

 

[Jbjeepin56]

Ok you had a few questions. Thanks for the reply. As for boddy fat, I can see my abs alittle, Im not fat and im not skinny. Im just (fit), if i had to use a word to sum it up. Well it looking like im going to skip the deca this time and just take the Test for the first cycle.

Aspirating?.. I think it means to suck up a fluid..

I also didnt say this but, I want to bulk up.. not cut right now. Just thought i would put that out there.

Diet for the day = usually 4 chicken brest through out the day, 3 eggs in morning with a good juice (orange/milk) and some other things like toast, protein shake during the day, lots of watter, maby a steak, rice, patatos, sandwitch. I bassically just try to eat as much protein throughout the day as i can and not as much fat. I dont really have a plan it just has seemed to work for me in the past. My plan is to eat alot and make sure its protein.

I want my dick to work properly!! and balls!

So it looks like im just doing a cycle of Test-E now...What about PCT and AI now??

 

[HAYEZ]

Ok you had a few questions. Thanks for the reply. As for boddy fat, I can see my abs alittle, Im not fat and im not skinny. Im just (fit), if i had to use a word to sum it up. Well it looking like im going to skip the deca this time and just take the Test for the first cycle.

Aspirating?.. I think it means to suck up a fluid..

I also didnt say this but, I want to bulk up.. not cut right now. Just thought i would put that out there.

Diet for the day = usually 4 chicken brest through out the day, 3 eggs in morning with a good juice (orange/milk) and some other things like toast, protein shake during the day, lots of watter, maby a steak, rice, patatos, sandwitch. I bassically just try to eat as much protein throughout the day as i can and not as much fat. I dont really have a plan it just has seemed to work for me in the past. My plan is to eat alot and make sure its protein.

I want my dick to work properly!! and balls!

So it looks like im just doing a cycle of Test-E now...What about PCT and AI now??

you can use both the deca and test for the 1st cycle...the doses are so low i would find it hard to believe you would have any sides at all

 

[Jbjeepin56]

you can use both the deca and test for the 1st cycle...the doses are so low i would find it hard to believe you would have any sides at all

Yea its low. but is it high enough to give good results and low enough to not get bad sides... haha that would be good.

 

[HAYEZ]

me persoanlly would raise everything but then the low dose bandwagon guys would come in and argue.... so its ur choice... the standard before weas 500 test/400 deca ew...so in all reality ur original ideas were good and still n the low side..im sure u would do ok with it if you train and eat well

 

[Jbjeepin56]

Im still doin research but I might do 400mg of test a week. and 300 mg of deca a week. I also just might do the Test alone and do that 350mg to 400mg a week by its self. Still not sure on the PCT and AI for just the Test alone.

 

[sweed]

make sure to take in good fats during cycle. Diet can make or break a cycle, so get that down solid, then training, and then the AAS.

 

[Jbjeepin56]

My training I know is good + + +, The diet...Im going to make a chart and stick with it. I have a nutritionist friend who will help me with that, who is awair of what i plan to do.
So that shouldnt be a problem.

next step... figure out a good plan...thanks again to thoes who respond.

I might seem like im flip floping around but...its the right thing to do....I just wanna be %100 on what needs to be done as for pct and ai.
You can probely guess im just not trying to do something wrong and really mess up my health.
Just wanna get it right....plus im bored so this is working for me haha

 

[HAYEZ]

My training I know is good + + +, The diet...Im going to make a chart and stick with it. I have a nutritionist friend who will help me with that, who is awair of what i plan to do.
So that shouldnt be a problem.

next step... figure out a good plan...thanks again to thoes who respond.

I might seem like im flip floping around but...its the right thing to do....I just wanna be %100 on what needs to be done as for pct and ai.
You can probely guess im just not trying to do something wrong and really mess up my health.
Just wanna get it right....plus im bored so this is working for me haha

well once u figuire ur cycle out then we can help you with ai's and pct

 

[Jbjeepin56]

400mg of Test E a week for 10 weeks.

 

[the_alcatraz]

This is the best advice anyone will give you: You are not even remotely close to being in the same vicinity as being ready to even try steroids.

1- you are 6' and only 180, it means you have a lot more to gain naturally
2- you dont have PCT (post cycle therapy) planned...it's just as important as your cycle to protect yourself and keep the gains
3- the cycle you choose is too much for a first cycle, as i'm assuming it is a first cycle from the fact that you dnt know what to take while on or after cycle
4- just because you THINK you're ready doesn't mean you are

Josh, trust me...you're not ready

shoot me a PM and I'll talk to you about some other natural or legal alternatives

maybe we can go over your diet and your training and help you get to your goals and put on some mass

 

[HAYEZ]

400mg of Test E a week for 10 weeks.

im not gonna preach to you , ya already bought it and im sure ur gonna use it anyways... ya came here for advice so heres mine

1-10 test e 400mg
adex keep on hand but you shouldnt need it.... if you do need it .25 eod to start with
hcg either run on cycle 500iu e3d starting when you notice atrophy up until 2 days before pct starts
11 days after last test shot start pct

i prefer nolva
60mg 7 days
40mg 14 days
sustain

 

[Jbjeepin56]

Thank you hayez haha thats all i really needed. I guess alcatraz didnt read what I have been writing and decided to just post radom stuff.

Alcatraz if you would have read what i wrote before you would have understood that I have not started. You're statement # 2, 3 are the reason I started this post...that was my question. And as for statement #4 thats your opinion, and your obviously not trying to give advice to newb's ( it says it under your profile) and im pretty sure thats one of the reasons this site exists. AND statement number #1.... testosterone is natural, the body makes it naturally...im just not taking it naturally...same as the other stuff in GNC. Some of that stuff might be natural...but its not natural to take alot of it.

I can see you are trying to help though. I respect that you are trying to help me and I thank you, but I have pretty much made up my mind. Way before I even got that stuff!

Even though I have it, I still have good patience and ill proble not start for another few weeks till im ready to go.

When I do start ill upload pictures and keep everyone updated, unless people dont really care then thats fine too.

Alcatraz Its all good! I would say thanks for youre help but you didnt really help. I know you are trying to.. so Thanks for trying to help and I respect that.

Josh

 

[Jbjeepin56]

I also might add to this post that I might be a newbie to this site but I have been staying fit and working out since middle school. I was sucking down cell-tech in 8th or 9th grade lol Im pretty sure that was when it first came out (i think) because my older brother came home with a bucket of it. Then i started it to. That was the first thing i ever did.. protein shakes to andro and random pills that eventually got banned I guess from GNC and other stores alike. So I have been around this stuff for awhile. It seemed like it was really easy to get BIG back then...mabey it was becasue i was still growing. Now its a little harder. 8 years of working out/staying healthy and everything else!!!! Im trying to get ready so dont say im not even remotely close!!! How can I be ready when im trying to get ready! I know this! But im almost ready. So that would mean I am remotely close and that you are wrong...I still dont think anyone is ready for this stuff. You just gotta try as best you can.



Your not ready

lol im done bull Shiiting around.

 

[702daswoll1]

"Aspirating?.. I think it means to suck up a fluid.."

Yeah baby thats what Im talking about

 

[the_alcatraz]

Thank you hayez haha thats all i really needed. I guess alcatraz didnt read what I have been writing and decided to just post radom stuff.

Alcatraz if you would have read what i wrote before you would have understood that I have not started. You're statement # 2, 3 are the reason I started this post...that was my question. And as for statement #4 thats your opinion, and your obviously not trying to give advice to newb's ( it says it under your profile) and im pretty sure thats one of the reasons this site exists. AND statement number #1.... testosterone is natural, the body makes it naturally...im just not taking it naturally...same as the other stuff in GNC. Some of that stuff might be natural...but its not natural to take alot of it.

I can see you are trying to help though. I respect that you are trying to help me and I thank you, but I have pretty much made up my mind. Way before I even got that stuff!

Even though I have it, I still have good patience and ill proble not start for another few weeks till im ready to go.

When I do start ill upload pictures and keep everyone updated, unless people dont really care then thats fine too.

Alcatraz Its all good! I would say thanks for youre help but you didnt really help. I know you are trying to.. so Thanks for trying to help and I respect that.

Josh

Josh, you're a grown man...my age and you're going to do what you're going to do...so not going to argue with you in that matter

I meant no disrespect to you nor was I speakign with you as though you are a noob, I was a noob a long time ago and some peeps on here helped me out and taught me some stuff...THAT's what this site is for...I want to give you advice with a clear conscience and frankly, telling you to take steroids while IMO you're not ready will not give me a clear conscience

You want honesty, fine. For someone that's 6' and only 180, doesnt look like you trained much, because you didnt even post your bf, and im assuming it's not in the single digits. you have a LOT more to gain naturally and you are affecting your GENETIC POTENTIAL when you juice before you have achieved that potential

Yes, the body produces test naturally....but when you are on test, the body is getting the test from the outside, and when it has gotten enough test for a shrt period of time, the body starts producing less and less and it may shut down your test productin for a while...yes, that means if you don't know what you're doing you're not going to be able to get it up after the cycle for a while...

This is my advice, take it or leave it...I'm sure others like Hayez will give you advice on your cycle, even though you are clearly not ready...

It's your choice

 

[the_alcatraz]

I also might add to this post that I might be a newbie to this site but I have been staying fit and working out since middle school. I was sucking down cell-tech in 8th or 9th grade lol Im pretty sure that was when it first came out (i think) because my older brother came home with a bucket of it. Then i started it to. That was the first thing i ever did.. protein shakes to andro and random pills that eventually got banned I guess from GNC and other stores alike. So I have been around this stuff for awhile. It seemed like it was really easy to get BIG back then...mabey it was becasue i was still growing. Now its a little harder. 8 years of working out/staying healthy and everything else!!!! Im trying to get ready so dont say im not even remotely close!!! How can I be ready when im trying to get ready! I know this! But im almost ready. So that would mean I am remotely close and that you are wrong...I still dont think anyone is ready for this stuff. You just gotta try as best you can.



Your not ready

lol im done bull Shiiting around.

Alright, you may want to take your attitude a notch down as we're trying to help you out here...

If you're looking for a forum where people will give you the answer You want to hear, then it's not here...

People on EF actually care and give the answer that will not end your sex life for good or permanently shut down your test production or limit your gains....

You should really take this opportunity to learn and read up on this board on peoples' experiences with aas

 

[HAYEZ]

Josh, you're a grown man...my age and you're going to do what you're going to do...so not going to argue with you in that matter

I meant no disrespect to you nor was I speakign with you as though you are a noob, I was a noob a long time ago and some peeps on here helped me out and taught me some stuff...THAT's what this site is for...I want to give you advice with a clear conscience and frankly, telling you to take steroids while IMO you're not ready will not give me a clear conscience

You want honesty, fine. For someone that's 6' and only 180, doesnt look like you trained much, because you didnt even post your bf, and im assuming it's not in the single digits. you have a LOT more to gain naturally and you are affecting your GENETIC POTENTIAL when you juice before you have achieved that potential

Yes, the body produces test naturally....but when you are on test, the body is getting the test from the outside, and when it has gotten enough test for a shrt period of time, the body starts producing less and less and it may shut down your test productin for a while...yes, that means if you don't know what you're doing you're not going to be able to get it up after the cycle for a while...

This is my advice, take it or leave it...I'm sure others like Hayez will give you advice on your cycle, even though you are clearly not ready...

It's your choice

not sure what thats suppose to mean.....

he obviously isnt ready but hes gonna do it anyways...would you rather him atleast do it properly or just screw himself up worse...someone spending hundreds of dollars on a cycle having it in hand then someone telling him not to do it isnt going to achieve much... all hes going to do is not log onto ef anymore go somewhere else and do it anyways

 

[sweed]

Right on with Traz. I researched a good year and a half because I wanted to know what exactly I would be doing. I wanted to get bigger but there was so much info I was very uncertain of when I first joined here. Please take time to research. It shows because you don't know even what aspirating means! ( in terms of AS injection) This site is for helping people, not for helping uneducated guys to start AS right away.
Heck, I haven't done a cycle in 3.5 years because I am NOT ready!

Got to love Hayez's 'whatever' attitude, lol.

 

[HAYEZ]

Right on with Traz. I researched a good year and a half because I wanted to know what exactly I would be doing. I wanted to get bigger but there was so much info I was very uncertain of when I first joined here. Please take time to research. It shows because you don't know even what aspirating means! ( in terms of AS injection) This site is for helping people, not for helping uneducated guys to start AS right away.
Heck, I haven't done a cycle in 3.5 years because I am NOT ready!

Got to love Hayez's 'whatever' attitude, lol.

it aint like that...but in all reality you think someone is going to come here register ask some question people tell him not to do it and hes just gonna listen and put his steroids in a box for a couple years...give me a break...its far from it...he obviously is determined enough to do steroids that he bought everything already... the whole thread can be bashing him telling him not to cycle but if hes going to do it then thats what he is going to do...
would you rather kick him out the door with no info or atleast have him leave with the right way fo doing things? im sure the majority of people on this site did there first cycle way ebfore they were ready...people use steroids because there impatient,unhappy with how they are,looking to cheat...some may be advanced bodybuilders but the majority of users are nobodys that want a better body image....im sure some will try and disagree but it is what it is and everyone knows it

 

[sweed]

If we can help some guys to hang it up for a while, then great. Some guests/ members actually listen to us. If someone basically says screw them and does it, hopefully we have given enough info so they will not be dissatisfied. Some come back and post a thread 'should have listened to you guys'. Traz and the other members ( including you) have given enough good info for this guy to start researching, so if something goes wrong he can look it up. It's not what we want to happen, but it's gonna happen.
Instead of saying, you need to do more research, we should help by saying, you need to research AS, AI's, pct, sides, etc so they have something to research and not just 'steroids'.

I do agree he could train a little more.

 

[the_alcatraz]

not sure what thats suppose to mean.....

he obviously isnt ready but hes gonna do it anyways...would you rather him atleast do it properly or just screw himself up worse...someone spending hundreds of dollars on a cycle having it in hand then someone telling him not to do it isnt going to achieve much... all hes going to do is not log onto ef anymore go somewhere else and do it anyways

It means nothing. Just means we agree to disagree on giving un-experienced users advice.

If I see someone who is not ready I will tell him you're not ready. If he's still going to do it, he's going to have to get his advice from somewhere else. I don't want to be responsible for fucking his mojo up before he's 30.

 

[Jbjeepin56]

Haha you guys are funny as shit. Hayez it sounds like you know exactly how i feel.

To the others who are making fun of me for not knowing the terms of all this bull shiit...Sorry i didnt get my PHD in roids.

I have had this stuff for about a week now and I dont have a problem waiting till I get everything right and ready do go. Including my body. So chill.

As for the gaining more naturally, Cant everyone else who is doing roids gain more naturally??? haha. Again hayez understands. Also I am listening to you guys so dont think im not! Dont think im some retard and who is just going to do it anyway. Im an understanding guy. I know what the deal is and thats why im chillin out right now.

Im never going to be ready unless someone helps me the F**k out!
Im trying to get ready! I understand that im not. But ill get there.

To all the people that are trying to help me get ready THANK YOU. Because i have it and im going to do it.

When i know for sure when im going to start ill post it. Untill then im not sure when im going to start.

I migh upload some pics later....Ill fid out exactly how much I weigh, the body fat, the height....I am 6 feet i know that for sure..the other stuff i will find out exactly how much. Im not sure what i said earlier was right.

 

[Jbjeepin56]

and hey 702deswall. Aspirate =The removal by suction of a fluid from a body cavity using a needle.

I WAS RIGHT!

. I think i made a pretty good guess. So suck it. I didnt think your answer was funny at all.

Im sure I could name some words im sure you wouldnt have a clue what they ment.

Your comment was immature

 

[Jbjeepin56]

I have decided to wait untill I feel like im naturally big. Ill take some protein and creatine for now.

Looks like you guys saved the day! great..

Now mabey some help with something else. Something else I can take to help me get ready and get big so I can eventually use what I have. I went to GNC and it looks like now adays the stuff they have other then protein and creatine is just all stuff that is not good. Im not taking anything like redbull or caffeine because i really dont like that stuff. Im naturally chill and i like to stay that way. No uppers..Ill have uppers just not strong ass ones. I read the back of NO-Explode and it looked like there was alot of stuff in it that was all uppers to get you pumped. Not for me.

 

[Bigpimpin10]

diet and t raining..thats it..

 

[Bigpimpin10]

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good posts traz..shows you care alot..loving this board.. you are a good guy bro..

 

[Bigpimpin10]

Haha you guys are funny as shit. Hayez it sounds like you know exactly how i feel.

To the others who are making fun of me for not knowing the terms of all this bull shiit...Sorry i didnt get my PHD in roids.

I have had this stuff for about a week now and I dont have a problem waiting till I get everything right and ready do go. Including my body. So chill.

As for the gaining more naturally, Cant everyone else who is doing roids gain more naturally??? haha. Again hayez understands. Also I am listening to you guys so dont think im not! Dont think im some retard and who is just going to do it anyway. Im an understanding guy. I know what the deal is and thats why im chillin out right now.

Im never going to be ready unless someone helps me the F**k out!
Im trying to get ready! I understand that im not. But ill get there.

To all the people that are trying to help me get ready THANK YOU. Because i have it and im going to do it.

When i know for sure when im going to start ill post it. Untill then im not sure when im going to start.

I migh upload some pics later....Ill fid out exactly how much I weigh, the body fat, the height....I am 6 feet i know that for sure..the other stuff i will find out exactly how much. Im not sure what i said earlier was right.

dude...we can help but you can educate yourself too..browse around the site..

 

[Bigpimpin10]

it aint like that...but in all reality you think someone is going to come here register ask some question people tell him not to do it and hes just gonna listen and put his steroids in a box for a couple years...give me a break...its far from it...he obviously is determined enough to do steroids that he bought everything already... the whole thread can be bashing him telling him not to cycle but if hes going to do it then thats what he is going to do...
would you rather kick him out the door with no info or atleast have him leave with the right way fo doing things? im sure the majority of people on this site did there first cycle way ebfore they were ready...people use steroids because there impatient,unhappy with how they are,looking to cheat...some may be advanced bodybuilders but the majority of users are nobodys that want a better body image....im sure some will try and disagree but it is what it is and everyone knows it

i also agree with this... we shouldnt lay out a simple cycle..so if the person does not listen to say lets say traz..because traz made really good points..or well facts... that they wont fuck up there body...

because knowing alot of people just hop on a site..read a few threads and do there cycle..

 

[Jbjeepin56]

After Thinking about it. I came up with this for when im ready. What do you think?

Week 1-10 Test E @ 250mg (2 x a week)
Week 13-14 Nolvadex @ 40mg everyday
Week 15-16 Nolva 20mg everyday

Ill Start training harder, Take pics, Post up weight/bf/height and you guys can tell me by looking at the pics and info if you think im ready. I mean I feel ready but looks like the experts say dif.

Or
1-10 Test-E 250mg (2x a week)
13-14 Nolvadex 40mg everyday
15-16 Nolvadex 20mg everyday
1-12 Armidex .25 everyday (if needed)



OR

1-10 Test E 250mg 2 x a week
3-10 hcg 250iu's 2x a week
then some pct

there are alot of options. Trying to get the best one for a Test-E 10 week cycle.

 

[Bigpimpin10]

why do you have proviron in there?...if your looking to bulk
anadrol or dbol..

 

[Jbjeepin56]

That was a mistake. I took it out now

 

[the_alcatraz]

it aint like that...but in all reality you think someone is going to come here register ask some question people tell him not to do it and hes just gonna listen and put his steroids in a box for a couple years...give me a break...its far from it...he obviously is determined enough to do steroids that he bought everything already... the whole thread can be bashing him telling him not to cycle but if hes going to do it then thats what he is going to do...
would you rather kick him out the door with no info or atleast have him leave with the right way fo doing things? im sure the majority of people on this site did there first cycle way ebfore they were ready...people use steroids because there impatient,unhappy with how they are,looking to cheat...some may be advanced bodybuilders but the majority of users are nobodys that want a better body image....im sure some will try and disagree but it is what it is and everyone knows it

I always give the advice that feels right irrespective of whether or not the thread starter will listen to me. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I like to have a clear conscience that I didnt assist in damaging someone's health when I sleep at night.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Dude, you should really relax and try to understand that everyone is just trying to help.

You need to be ready mentally and physically for steroids before you move over to the dark side.

I made a mistake and did my first cycle at 21-22. It was a mistake. Although I understood what steroids are and how they effect the body, I understood the concept of PCT and the sides associated with aas, I also had been training for a long time and my diet was in check. Only issue I had was that I did not let my body grow to its natural potential nor did I maximize my gains.

I give advice and tell people to wait till they are ready because I don't want you or others to make the mistake I made by starting too early.

You may be old enough and understand this shit enough to start, but your "body" has not done all it can do naturally before you want to start using aas.

You should push your body's genetic limits, i.e. I'm sure you can gain 20-30 lbs naturally and transfrom into a beast before you even start juicing. Imagine the results once you achieve that. Imagine how much better it will be when instead of gaining 10 lbs on your first cycle, you gain 30 lbs of lean muscle, and you do it in the right way. If you can still grow naturally, why stop your body from doing it. You WILL grow on aas, but if you can grow naturally AND on aas, you wil grow THAT much more....makes sense?

Always keep in mind that people on here are trying to help. This is what we are here for. To help each other, learn from each other and talk about all aspects of training, INCLUDING but NOT only aas.

That being said, if you are going to start anytime soon and NOT going to listen to my advice, at least stick to a test ONLY cycle for your first cycle. You will grow a lot on test alone as your first cycle and you have a less chance to f up your body. Keep Ai's on hand. For PCT, I'd use HCG or Clomid. There are some sponsers providing those as well as some alternatives like Testosterone recovery stack for your PCT, which I also have discounts for when you are going to start.

 

[Jbjeepin56]

I hear ya alcatrz, Im listing and Ill proble start in a few months.
So from what you said I think it would look something like this.

500mg a wk, 10 weeks, 250mg Twice a week.

After the last shot, wait 14 days and start clomid

100mg Clomid, Week 1
50mg Clomid, Week 2-4
+ the Testosterone recovery stack with pct and keeping an Ai on hand for weeks 1-10

Im trying to get a good plan down for pct that will be most effective and successful

 

[Bigpimpin10]

I hear ya alcatrz, Im listing and Ill proble start in a few months.
So from what you said I think it would look something like this.

500mg a wk, 10 weeks, 250mg Twice a week.

After the last shot, wait 14 days and start clomid

100mg Clomid, Week 1
50mg Clomid, Week 2-4
+ the Testosterone recovery stack with pct and keeping an Ai on hand for weeks 1-10

Im trying to get a good plan down for pct that will be most effective and successful

looks solid but..
throw me your diet and training for a day...

 

[Jbjeepin56]

"Aspirating?.. I think it means to suck up a fluid.."

Yeah baby thats what Im talking about

Im a payed Firefighter and have Emt-I. Im about to get my paramedic cert. I know how to put a needle in someone. I know how to hit a muscle. Thank you.

Thats why I had an idea what the term ment.

 

[Jbjeepin56]

Morning=
Wheybolic extreme 60 protein shake from GNC = 60g protein
3 eggs scrambled
2 toast with grape jelly
2 bacon strips
orange juice....glass of milk before i left

later on i had a turky sandwitch
potato salad

1 small can of tuna later on

finally night time i had
Small steak
2 chicken breasts

Lots of water all day..

as for the training I did something called a consumption test at my station
1. Pulled a tire down and back a strip of ground with a fire hose
2. 40 simulated chops with a sledgehammer (pretending to be an ax)...its harder with the sledge
3. Ran a high rise pack up and down 4 flights of stairs (A bag with 150 ft of fire hose)
4. Ran around a bulding 1 time
5. Then started over again and stoped after the tire pull
( consumption test is to see how long you can last while on air befor your cylinder runs out of air)

I couldnt get to the gym because i had a busy day but i did push ups pull ups and sit up.

Today is my day of rest anyways. If you call it that

o yea im like addicted to that vitamin water stuff.. so i have that alot too.

 

[Bigpimpin10]

you need at least 6-8 set meals throughout the day...im talkin thick meals..

 

[Jbjeepin56]

I think you guys should look at this video. I was looking around and found it. Mabey you guys have seen it before but this was my first time---> its a youtube video----->YouTube - STEROIDS: The Truth.

 

[Bigpimpin10]

ive seen that a long time ago..just watched it again..good video.

 

[HAYEZ]

Morning=
Wheybolic extreme 60 protein shake from GNC = 60g protein
3 eggs scrambled
2 toast with grape jelly
2 bacon strips
orange juice....glass of milk before i left

later on i had a turky sandwitch
potato salad

1 small can of tuna later on

finally night time i had
Small steak
2 chicken breasts

Lots of water all day..

as for the training I did something called a consumption test at my station
1. Pulled a tire down and back a strip of ground with a fire hose
2. 40 simulated chops with a sledgehammer (pretending to be an ax)...its harder with the sledge
3. Ran a high rise pack up and down 4 flights of stairs (A bag with 150 ft of fire hose)
4. Ran around a bulding 1 time
5. Then started over again and stoped after the tire pull
( consumption test is to see how long you can last while on air befor your cylinder runs out of air)

I couldnt get to the gym because i had a busy day but i did push ups pull ups and sit up.

Today is my day of rest anyways. If you call it that

o yea im like addicted to that vitamin water stuff.. so i have that alot too.

you need to get your diet in check that is no where enough food...and make time to go to the gym

 

[the_alcatraz]

I hear ya alcatrz, Im listing and Ill proble start in a few months.
So from what you said I think it would look something like this.

500mg a wk, 10 weeks, 250mg Twice a week.

After the last shot, wait 14 days and start clomid

100mg Clomid, Week 1
50mg Clomid, Week 2-4
+ the Testosterone recovery stack with pct and keeping an Ai on hand for weeks 1-10

Im trying to get a good plan down for pct that will be most effective and successful

Now you're talking...this looks very good man

although, even 250-350 mg ew would work pretty well if it's your first cycle.

PCT looks good.

PM me for discount on the test recovery stack.

Cycle looks good. Let me look at your diet and I'll get back to you.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Morning=
Wheybolic extreme 60 protein shake from GNC = 60g protein
3 eggs scrambled
2 toast with grape jelly
2 bacon strips
orange juice....glass of milk before i left

later on i had a turky sandwitch
potato salad

1 small can of tuna later on

finally night time i had
Small steak
2 chicken breasts

Lots of water all day..

as for the training I did something called a consumption test at my station
1. Pulled a tire down and back a strip of ground with a fire hose
2. 40 simulated chops with a sledgehammer (pretending to be an ax)...its harder with the sledge
3. Ran a high rise pack up and down 4 flights of stairs (A bag with 150 ft of fire hose)
4. Ran around a bulding 1 time
5. Then started over again and stoped after the tire pull
( consumption test is to see how long you can last while on air befor your cylinder runs out of air)

I couldnt get to the gym because i had a busy day but i did push ups pull ups and sit up.

Today is my day of rest anyways. If you call it that

o yea im like addicted to that vitamin water stuff.. so i have that alot too.

Bro, the diet is questionable.

You need to get about 6 meals in there. I'm not going to say eat 8-10 meals a day like I do, but make sure you are getting 1.5-2 grms of protein per lb of body weight. Also try to get some of the following in there: yams, oats, sweet potatoes, more egg whites, more chicken breast.

The rest is ok, just more meals.

In terms of your workout, you need a gym bro...

Respect to fire fighters, they're awesome peeps, as I'm sure you guys work hard, but without a gym and a workout regimen, it's not going to work. If you want to benefit from your cycle and diet, get into a gym, even if it's 30 minutes a day (minus stretching and warm-up)

Good luck.

 

[Jbjeepin56]

Ill get the diet going good. Ill eat like a fat ass but the food will be good.
I do go to the gym...Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, saturday, sunday, I have one in my station. We have everything i need and more. Free weights and all. Somedays im not in the station because of training or somthing. Then i try and do a late night workout. For the late night workout i have a little gym in my apartment complex that i hit up. It sucks because they dont have free weights but it still gets the job done when i dont have alot of time.

But ill get The meals down good. and the workouts better.

I usually do less reps. I do on all muscles 5 sets of 5-10 reps.

Sometimes we run the mile but im going to start running a mile and a half everyother day. Starting tomorrow.

I have been going to the gym but i would say the performance level could be alot better so it will be.

This protein shake that i have is 60g of protein....my friend seem to think that taking all 60g at once is a waste because its too much and the body will proble poop the rest out. and ill end up only taking in like 30-40g. (I still take it all anyways regardless)...but Im wordering if there is some truth to that...How much can the body metabolize a hour in protein? Soo how much can the body take in, in one hour? I think its a good question.

 

[Jbjeepin56]

Now you're talking...this looks very good man

although, even 250-350 mg ew would work pretty well if it's your first cycle.

PCT looks good.

PM me for discount on the test recovery stack.

Cycle looks good. Let me look at your diet and I'll get back to you.

I just looked at my bottle and there is 10ml and 300mg per ml in the bottel

So ill proble just do 300mg a week because if i do any more then ill have to buy another bottle.

so I have 10cc in the bottle each cc= 300mg

10 weeks each week 300mg

so half a cc 2 times a week. or just 1cc 1 time a week.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I just looked at my bottle and there is 10ml and 300mg per ml in the bottel

So ill proble just do 300mg a week because if i do any more then ill have to buy another bottle.

so I have 10cc in the bottle each cc= 300mg

10 weeks each week 300mg

so half a cc 2 times a week. or just 1cc 1 time a week.

1 cc one time a week

 

[Bigpimpin10]

1 cc one time a week

+1

 

[Jbjeepin56]

Alright sounds good