New cycle ideas

[-SD-]

My last cycle was tren ace 50mg/day for just 5 weeks due to the sides but the gains were crazy. So heres my cycle idea now that GW is supposed to be awesome with things like lethargy and endurance.

Weeks 1-16 EQ 800mg/wk
Weeks 1-8 Deca 400mg/wk
Weeks 1-8 T Cyp 400mg/wk
Weeks 9-16 Tren E 400mg/wk
Weeks 9-16 GW 20mg/ED
Weeks 1-16 Caber .5mg/E3D

PCT: none, just go back to usual 125mg/wk HRT

Gear will be Robolics

Goals: 7-10 dry lbs after all the dust settles, maybe couple percent BF loss like I got last time with only 5 weeks on ace.

Stats:
39
5'10
207
15%

 

[RickRock13]

I think it looks pretty sweet man. I like the idea of bumping the doses at the 7 week mark. I'm going to expiriment with that myself this summer during my next blast to see if it has any merit

 

[-SD-]

I think it looks pretty sweet man. I like the idea of bumping the doses at the 7 week mark. I'm going to expiriment with that myself this summer during my next blast to see if it has any merit

Just gonna go off how i feel if the cycle starts stalling out or not, which should be week 8 so i figure hit it a week before since its enanthate ester.

 

[RickRock13]

Just gonna go off how i feel if the cycle starts stalling out or not, which should be week 8 so i figure hit it a week before since its enanthate ester.

Good plan. I'm definitely interested in hearing how it goes for you. If it helps get another pound or two of muscle, I'm all for it

 

[-SD-]

Gonna log it. Havent seen anyone log a tren/GW cycle to my knowledge. Think it would be really helpful to determine GW effectiveness combating tren sides

 

[RickRock13]

Gonna log it. Havent seen anyone log a tren/GW cycle to my knowledge. Think it would be really helpful to determine GW effectiveness combating tren sides

Nice. A lot of people could benefit from that log. It will definitely spark a lot of interest

 

[stevesmi]

I've run GW and tren together and it does help with my endurance and cardio..

 

[-SD-]

I've run GW and tren together and it does help with my endurance and cardio..

Ok good, so you werent out of breath getting out of your car and walking 50 feet?

 

[stevesmi]

Ok good, so you werent out of breath getting out of your car and walking 50 feet?

I would say the more times you run tren the less of that affect you will have.

add in the GW and its pretty sweet.. granted I only run 200mg's of tren a week.. some guys run 3X that and wonder why they struggle

 

[-SD-]

Yea just gonna run 300mg week which is around 42mg/day so not a big dose. Expecting myosatin to be a problem though at week 8

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Yea just gonna run 300mg week which is around 42mg/day so not a big dose. Expecting myosatin to be a problem though at week 8

Not if you're cruising. You'll be a good for 16+ weeks

 

[-SD-]

Not if you're cruising. You'll be a good for 16+ weeks

i thought cycles hit the wall at 8 weeks no matter what? Just because Ive been running 125mg HRT I get a pass for 16 weeks?

 

[Reps For Jesus]

i thought cycles hit the wall at 8 weeks no matter what? Just because Ive been running 125mg HRT I get a pass for 16 weeks?

Yes.

 

[-SD-]

Anyone else confirm this?

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Anyone else confirm this?

The same study you are basing it peaking at week 8

 

[-SD-]

Well hell in that case I can swap out the primo for EQ, make it a 2 phaser divided first 8 weeks and last 8 weeks with EQ run the whole time.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Well hell in that case I can swap out the primo for EQ, make it a 2 phaser divided first 8 weeks and last 8 weeks with EQ run the whole time.

Now we're cooking.

I'd run it 16 weeks with tren the first 10-12 weeks.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Anyone else confirm this?

If you are cruising or TRT, whatever, which you have been doing the rules of myostatin do not apply in the same way they do if you are cycling on and completely off.

 

[-SD-]

Ok edited original post for new cycle idea

 

[RickRock13]

I'm still trying to figure the whole deal with Myostatin when it comes to blast and cruise. I just started HRT over the summer, and this cycle I started in November is the first I've done following a cruise dose (200mg per week). Gains still seemed to stall for me around the 8 week mark, so I think myostatin still plays a part.

 

[stevesmi]

myostatin or not lets get real here.. if you could continue 'gaining' then every person on here would be 300 pounds of muscle by now. the body will find a way to shed muscle no matter what.. no magic trick will save you from that fact. its a constant war and I've been battling for years now, its all about baby steps

 

[Reps For Jesus]

myostatin or not lets get real here.. if you could continue 'gaining' then every person on here would be 300 pounds of muscle by now. the body will find a way to shed muscle no matter what.. no magic trick will save you from that fact. its a constant war and I've been battling for years now, its all about baby steps

True, but those are genetic limits, not myostatin peaking on cycle. All of which are a pain in the ass. This is not typically true, but a certain point, more drugs does mean more gains.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

My last cycle was tren ace 50mg/day for just 5 weeks due to the sides but the gains were crazy. So heres my cycle idea now that GW is supposed to be awesome with things like lethargy and endurance.

Weeks 1-16 EQ 800mg/wk
Weeks 1-8 Deca 400mg/wk
Weeks 1-8 T Cyp 400mg/wk
Weeks 9-16 Tren E 400mg/wk
Weeks 9-16 GW 20mg/ED
Weeks 1-16 Caber .5mg/E3D

PCT: none, just go back to usual 125mg/wk HRT

Gear will be Robolics

Goals: 7-10 dry lbs after all the dust settles, maybe couple percent BF loss like I got last time with only 5 weeks on ace.

Stats:
39
5'10
207
15%

I'd run the Deca the entire time.

 

[stevesmi]

True, but those are genetic limits, not myostatin peaking on cycle. All of which are a pain in the ass. This is not typically true, but a certain point, more drugs does mean more gains.

well yeah.. consider 0% of EF members have the genetics to get to 300 pounds with single digit body fat I would say that is pretty universal right?

so its something we all will have to fight.. some will be more successful.. I would say my genetics are above average but they definitely aren't great.. no matter how much juice I run or for how long I promise you I will never sniff Mr Olympia status

 

[-SD-]

I dont think i have bad genetics either and i guess if i had to nail down an all time lifetime goal with all this its 220-225, 10%-12%

Thats not even sniffing state level contests i dont think

not that i would ever consider getting on stage in my underwear at age 40