Nelson, please evaluate my PCT...

[Nighthawkk]

Finished up the following: (results and comments were posted in the Anabolic forum)

Week 1-4 Dbol 35mg ED (thai)
Week 1-10 Enanthate 500mg (iranian)
Week 1-6 Deca 400mg (dropped mid-week 6)

Week 9-12 Winny 50mg ED
Week 9-12 Tren 75mg ED
Week 10-12 Prop 100mg EOD

PCT will be as follows:

-HCG intake during Week 13 @ 1500iu E3D (not sure if this is the best dosing, but the HCG was on backorder and I will be receiving it this week...hence I couldn't run it earlier). Once done with HCG I will start:

Day 1 Clomid 200mg/ 40mg Nolv
Day 2-11 Clomid 100mg/ 20mg Nolv
Day 11-21 Clomid 50mg/ 20mg Nolv

-Trib 750mg, Avena Sativa 750mg, PF "Post-Cycle" for 4 weeks
-Creatine 10mg ED for 6 weeks
-Cranberry extract and 1g Milk thistle run until finished
-Saw Palmetto 320mg
-Note: I also ordered Muira Puama, Yohimbe extract, and some additional Maca to run beyond what I have included in "Post-Cycle"....what is the best way to run these, and for how long? Thanks

Comments, criticisms, and suggestions welcome

 

[evolutionoftherevolution]

Looks like you're already taking a lot of supps to address the supression/liver/libido issues, but since you're already taking it that far I'd add
phosphatidylserine and CLA to prevent a blast of cortisol since you're off gear.

Just my .01 cents...

EOR

 

[Nelson Montana]

Looks pretty good. I'd make a couple of suggestions though.

The first question I'd ask is if yu've had good results with the Clomid before -- otherwise, I don't love it. (As some of you might already know).


This may be after the fact, I think you would have been better off using a little A-dex DURING the cycle. I'd also avoid Deca.

Not a fan of tren but taking winny with it is a good idea to counteract the prog and raise free T.


WAY too much HCG. Start with 250 I.U's a day for 4 days. If your balls come back --stop. And yeah, it should have been started earlier. You may alright though.

Don't use Saw Paletto. It lowers DHT.

Post-Cycle contains Milk Thistle and four other compounds for the liver so you shouldn't need any extra.

Yohimbe won't do anything for recovery. It may help with erectile function but the Post-Cycle should have you covered there as well. Yohimbe can cause anxiety.

I'd add some "Unleashed". It has Muara Puama and the best avena sativa available plus other ingredients to raise free T.


Feel free to post this on the Anabolic Board. And let me know how it works out for you. Happy landings!

 

[Nighthawkk]

Looks pretty good. I'd make a couple of suggestions though.

The first question I'd ask is if yu've had good results with the Clomid before -- otherwise, I don't love it. (As some of you might already know).


This may be after the fact, I think you would have been better off using a little A-dex DURING the cycle. I'd also avoid Deca.

Not a fan of tren but taking winny with it is a good idea to counteract the prog and raise free T.


WAY too much HCG. Start with 250 I.U's a day for 4 days. If your balls come back --stop. And yeah, it should have been started earlier. You may alright though.

Don't use Saw Paletto. It lowers DHT.

Post-Cycle contains Milk Thistle and four other compounds for the liver so you shouldn't need any extra.

Yohimbe won't do anything for recovery. It may help with erectile function but the Post-Cycle should have you covered there as well. Yohimbe can cause anxiety.

I'd add some "Unleashed". It has Muara Puama and the best avena sativa available plus other ingredients to raise free T.


Feel free to post this on the Anabolic Board. And let me know how it works out for you. Happy landings!

Ok, well to address your comments:

Clomid worked well for me in the past, but even better with Nolvadex in conjunction. I did in fact run A-dex @ .5mg EOD at certain points during the cycle, but did not stay on it. Too much HCG you say? My atrophy isn't horrible, but it is quite noticeable so I thought I would need at least 500iu ED for a week or so. What's the logic behind taking low HCG doses? Also, since when does Yohimbe cause anxiety? I was going to use it for libido reasons in case it declines post-cycle, but we'll see if I need it or not. Anyways, thanks for the previous reply bro

 

[Nelson Montana]

Yohimbe, or more specifically yohimBINE affects the central nervous system and is not tolerated well in some people.

HCG downgrades in receptor acceptance rather quickly and will desensitize leydig cells hindering recovery. It's best to use as little as possible so the next time you need it you haven't built up a tolerance. Once your balls are back, they're not going to get any bigger so using more than needed is a waste. Too much HCG can also increase estrogen to the point of causing gyno. In fact, I don't think it's a bad idea to use 1/4 mg EOD of A-dex along with the HCG.

 

[Nighthawkk]

Sounds good. I do have some A-dex left to run alongside the HCG, if need be. I never knew you can build a tolerance to it, that is good to know, so I don't abuse it(it will be the first time running HCG).