NELSON my good bro. If not deca then what!!!!!!

[needtogetaas]

I see you speak out against deca,i see you speak out against tren,and even npp. You got something against nondro's bro? I think a nandro can be added to many cycles and make a great synergistic stack.

Whats your nandro of chose? or do you hate the nandy nands all together and think no one should use any of them. If so please explain why?

 

[the_alcatraz]

I love nandrolones.

 

[needtogetaas]

I love nandrolones.

I love your big juicy wet vagina o wait what???

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ha! Yeah, I'm anti nandros, not for the results, which I love, but the suppression, which is a bitch.

(And the whole joint thing is overrated IMO)

To a lot of young guys who want to do a cycle now and then to boost their progress, you don't want to fuck up your HPTA to the point where you do permanent damage. To the older guys, whose HPTA is even less stable and may be doing well on HRT, nandros can throw the whole thing off.

So it isn;t that Deca is so bad, but that it's such a dick killer. Of course, if you're always on, and always have test, and accept that's the way it's going to be, then nandros are no worse than anything else and Deca may actually be less severe.

 

[needtogetaas]

Ha! Yeah, I'm anti nandros, not for the results, which I love, but the suppression, which is a bitch.

(And the whole joint thing is overrated IMO)

To a lot of young guys who want to do a cycle now and then to boost their progress, you don't want to fuck up your HPTA to the point where you do permanent damage. To the older guys, whose HPTA is even less stable and may be doing well on HRT, nandros can throw the whole thing off.

So it isn;t that Deca is so bad, but that it's such a dick killer. Of course, if you're always on, and always have test, and accept that's the way it's going to be, then nandros are no worse than anything else and Deca may actually be less severe.

so you would say nandros can reek the most havoc on hpta,lh,grna,and homeostasis? If so why? What makes nandro's so much more suppressive then the others. What makes them fuck thins up so much? Is it the rise in progesterone?

 

[RADAR]

Ha! Yeah, I'm anti nandros, not for the results, which I love, but the suppression, which is a bitch.

(And the whole joint thing is overrated IMO)

To a lot of young guys who want to do a cycle now and then to boost their progress, you don't want to fuck up your HPTA to the point where you do permanent damage. To the older guys, whose HPTA is even less stable and may be doing well on HRT, nandros can throw the whole thing off.

So it isn;t that Deca is so bad, but that it's such a dick killer. Of course, if you're always on, and always have test, and accept that's the way it's going to be, then nandros are no worse than anything else and Deca may actually be less severe.

I Agree with you as an older member It is highly suppressive, and like you say Recovery is a bitch, throw Tren in that group (and you've hit a home run)

for in my opinion Tren is worst than Deca!
Tren packed the muscle on me and I looked ready to step on stage, but what a bitch to recover from it's one compound i will probably never use again.

RADAR

 

[wolfman87]

i was under the impression that as long as you ran test for a couple weeks longer it wasn't difficult to recover from deca or tren. is this not the case? i also thought that dostinex countered these in some way, can you explain how it does or why it doesn't for me?

 

[Nelson Montana]

so you would say nandros can reek the most havoc on hpta,lh,grna,and homeostasis? If so why? What makes nandro's so much more suppressive then the others. What makes them fuck thins up so much? Is it the rise in progesterone?

I can get into a detailed explanation. Actually Tatyana can probably do a better job of it. But in the end, it is what it is. Nors were meant to be alternatives to androgens because they weren;'t androgenic, but the human body --- aah, magnificent in its ability to adapt, just wouldn't fall for it. The body still sensed still suppressed but the drug gave nothing back. The worst of both worlds.

Deca builds muscle though, so it remained -- keeping in mind it was never intended to be used at the dosages bodybuilders use them at. Then again, Sergio Oliva claims he used 200 mgs of deca a week and 25 mgs of winstrol (way above the therepeutic dosage) to train for the Olympia. He also had a full time job in construction and ate a lot of pizza and coca cola. This was the result. YouTube - Sergio Oliva - The Myth DVD from GMV BODYBUILDING

So Deca works. But it comes with a price. I feel that as long as you can get Test, Primo and dbol, everything else is second best, including Deca.

 

[needtogetaas]

i was under the impression that as long as you ran test for a couple weeks longer it wasn't difficult to recover from deca or tren. is this not the case? i also thought that dostinex countered these in some way, can you explain how it does or why it doesn't for me?

True I will admit for a lot of people nandro's seem to be harder to recover from. Still its not imposable. I think using a moderate dose of nandro is just as easy to recover from as using a gram of test or some of the other big cycles I see.

I see many many people recover just fine from nandro's. However often when I see some one say they just can't seem to recover or it takes some one a long time to get back to normal. They say they used a nandro in there cycle.

Nelson with the advances of on cycle products and pct products geared at better recovery do you think the risk of not recovering is such a big factor still now.

 

[needtogetaas]

i was under the impression that as long as you ran test for a couple weeks longer it wasn't difficult to recover from deca or tren. is this not the case? i also thought that dostinex countered these in some way, can you explain how it does or why it doesn't for me?

For the most part yes. Provided you have a nice pct in place. Going all out for pct I think is a must after a nandro cycle.