Nelson M - background?

[bicepts101]

why must we always talk about nelson?

 

[Mack Bolan]

Are you insinuating I wasn't an integal part of ending communism?

BTW: You forgot to mention my Grammy, my Oscar, my Pulitzer Prize, and my involvement in the developent of the Space Program.

Didn't you also invent the internet?



interesting read.

MB

 

[Nelson Montana]

Wow, just read all the responses. I'd say most on them are pretty accurate, including the criticisms.

It's true that I come on a little aggresive, and yes, that was esspecially necessary in the beginning. That's something that, in a way, was inspired by Arnold. He knew; If you want to be noticed, make your presense known in a big way. Just make sure you can deliver the goods.

And in my case, since I knew I was bucking conventional thought on a lot of subjects, it was necessary to come on strong. No one will listen to a half hearted attempt at changing popular opinion. Of course, there's a price to pay for that and I've accepted that, although it wasn't always easy.

It keeps coming back to my favorite Mark Twain quote:

"If you make people think you're making them think, they'll love you. But if you really make them think, they'll hate you."

Of course, that's a generalization. lots of guys (and girls) here love an intellectual challange. Nevertheless, if you have a message that forces people to re-think comfortable positions, there will be those who'll want to shoot you down.

At any rate, as imperitive as maintaining a forceful internet persona has been, from here on in, I'm going to make an effort to avoid antagonism. I realize I can afford to choose my words more carefully. And now that EF feels like "home" I know it isn't necessary to bash down the door every time I make an entrance.

I also hope that Fonz's statement is sincere and he's not just a backing down due to the negitve response he got from his attempts at trying to muster some antagonism toward me. There are lots of bros, including Fonz, who have something to offer and everyone with good info should be heard. I'd be glad to explain to Fonz some of the original concepts I've developed if he isn't familiar with them.

I truly believe this can be a better board if we everyone consolidates the collective knowledge instead of just trying to pick apart the others guys point of view.

I think in the long run more people will benefit. But something tells me there will still be times when emotions run high. At least I hope so. It would be very dull if everybody always agreed on everything.


Maybe we can instill a "three strikes you're out" clause to anyone who begins a blatant flame post. The FIRST antagonist of any thread is the perpetrator and will get a warning. If it happens 3 times, he's gone. That'd be great.

 

[alltraps]

i have no real problem with nelson's ideas and rationalle. however i DO have a problem with his delivery. he is making statements that contradict conventional thought, and basicaly sais "this is the way it will be from now on". you cant expext people to drop everything they know and jump to your theories right away. i question conventinal theories of bodybuling, but if i try something different, and i works for me, i dont go bullying people to do it my way. and if they dont, i call them stupid.

this is not a flame at all. like i said, i like your ideas nelson, but your delivery should be worded so that it implies a discussion, not "this is the word of the lord. AMEN" i believe you would do a lot better, and sell more books, if you approached this different.

 

[Nelson Montana]

i have no real problem with nelson's ideas and rationalle. however i DO have a problem with his delivery. he is making statements that contradict conventional thought, and basicaly sais "this is the way it will be from now on". you cant expext people to drop everything they know and jump to your theories right away. i question conventinal theories of bodybuling, but if i try something different, and i works for me, i dont go bullying people to do it my way. and if they dont, i call them stupid.

this is not a flame at all. like i said, i like your ideas nelson, but your delivery should be worded so that it implies a discussion, not "this is the word of the lord. AMEN" i believe you would do a lot better, and sell more books, if you approached this different.

I appreciate the comments but allow me (in my new "nice guy" way) to correct a few things. I never said "this is way of the lord" nor have I ever called anyone "stupid." I know you're generalizing, but it's in a disparaging way and I think that's unfair. Or maybe you actually belive I said those things based on others equally unfair claims.

You see, you can't say "this is no flame" and then go about lying and insulting someone. I'm sure you didnt mean it, I'm just pointing it out.

 

[alltraps]

i am sorry if it looks like a flame, and i am not insulting you. i have tons of respect for you. and what i say is not infulanced by what others think of you. i have been here since 1999( dont let this new handle fool you, my old one was deleted) and i have seen you "enter" this site. its not the way i would have done it, but it obviously we are individuals, and do things that suite us.

all i was trying to say is that you word your statements in a way that looks as though you give no room for discussion. you make "statements" that are conclusive and not open minded. IMO.

 

[Nelson Montana]

i am sorry if it looks like a flame, and i am not insulting you. i have tons of respect for you. and what i say is not infulanced by what others think of you. i have been here since 1999( dont let this new handle fool you, my old one was deleted) and i have seen you "enter" this site. its not the way i would have done it, but it obviously we are individuals, and do things that suite us.

all i was trying to say is that you word your statements in a way that looks as though you give no room for discussion. you make "statements" that are conclusive and not open minded. IMO.

Okay, fair enough. I think we can all afford to be more open minded, or in the least, more tolerant.

 

[Transporter]

I work in fitness fields as Nelson too. We deal with morons on regular basis. Guys do not take it to your hearts when we come agressive towards you.
Its hard to deal with uneducated morons sometimes who want to look like Arnold in 4 weeks and start right off with roids and have no clue how to eat or how to train. but hell yeah they wanna look like arnold in 4 weeks.
its more than that my friend. all roids will not help you if u do not have a heart of iron.
that is what nelson is trying to say, just many guys who wants results in 4 weeks do not see that way.

 

[Ashamed]

Wow, just read all the responses. I'd say most on them are pretty accurate, including the criticisms.

It's true that I come on a little aggresive, and yes, that was esspecially necessary in the beginning. That's something that, in a way, was inspired by Arnold. He knew; If you want to be noticed, make your presense known in a big way. Just make sure you can deliver the goods.

And in my case, since I knew I was bucking conventional thought on a lot of subjects, it was necessary to come on strong. No one will listen to a half hearted attempt at changing popular opinion. Of course, there's a price to pay for that and I've accepted that, although it wasn't always easy.

It keeps coming back to my favorite Mark Twain quote:

"If you make people think you're making them think, they'll love you. But if you really make them think, they'll hate you."

Of course, that's a generalization. lots of guys (and girls) here love an intellectual challange. Nevertheless, if you have a message that forces people to re-think comfortable positions, there will be those who'll want to shoot you down.

At any rate, as imperitive as maintaining a forceful internet persona has been, from here on in, I'm going to make an effort to avoid antagonism. I realize I can afford to choose my words more carefully. And now that EF feels like "home" I know it isn't necessary to bash down the door every time I make an entrance.

I also hope that Fonz's statement is sincere and he's not just a backing down due to the negitve response he got from his attempts at trying to muster some antagonism toward me. There are lots of bros, including Fonz, who have something to offer and everyone with good info should be heard. I'd be glad to explain to Fonz some of the original concepts I've developed if he isn't familiar with them.

I truly believe this can be a better board if we everyone consolidates the collective knowledge instead of just trying to pick apart the others guys point of view.

I think in the long run more people will benefit. But something tells me there will still be times when emotions run high. At least I hope so. It would be very dull if everybody always agreed on everything.


Maybe we can instill a "three strikes you're out" clause to anyone who begins a blatant flame post. The FIRST antagonist of any thread is the perpetrator and will get a warning. If it happens 3 times, he's gone. That'd be great.

fuck me

u r so full of shit.

 

[Nelson Montana]

fuck me

u r so full of shit.

Exhibit A.

There's always some guy who's out to piss all over a thread.

Can I get a "strike one"?