Needto - Have a Tren tfo question??

[supreme]

Bro,

Thanks for all your advice so far and probably saving my liver. I have some Tren tfo questions for you. As I put in the first post you replied to I am currently using the PP 1 -T for 3 weeks and then 1 - T Tren with their recovery stack.

You said I could add in your Tren tfo right now, how much per day? Would it be too similar to the PP 1 -T Tren in that I do not think I could not handle 2 DHT derivative products without major hair loss - I tend to be moderately follically challenged - although I do use all the standard topical and oral hair loss supps to slow the loss - so far so good!

Do I need any anti-aromatase, or anti-progestins, what do you reccomend for liver protection. I am assuming I could run it for the last 4 -5 weeks of the current cycle. Eric from PP recommends Vitex with the 1 - T Tren - your thoughts, would Vitex be enough?

Thanks!

S

 

[needtogetaas]

AAAH I forgot you were taking the 1-t tren. Meh might be to much. I know people who are doing it though.

 

[supreme]

Well, I'll think about it but I have real shitty luck with things like this and I can't pull of the shaved head thing - people will think "Uncle Fester" is jacked!!

How about throwing in a low dose Dieselbolan while on the PP stuff - I really want to stack Dieselbolan with Katandrol after the PP cycle & PCT, but The threads I am reading on the Katanadrol makes it seem harsh on the hair (I hate my f'in genetics!)

Let me know about the Dieselbolan,

Thanks again!

 

[miplank]

dieselbolan shouldn't have any effect on your hairline

 

[supreme]

That's great news!

Hey Need2, can you confirm the hair safety and more importantly throw me a quick guideline how to best stack the Dieselbolan with the PP topicals i.e daily dosage, timing, with or without food. Last, do I need an A.I. or anti-estrogen with the diesel. I am currently only taking reseveratrol and will be throwing in Vitex with the 1 T Tren, possibly an A.I as well.

Let me know so I can order from you ASAP.

Thanks!

S

 

[dabuffguy]

That's great news!

Hey Need2, can you confirm the hair safety and more importantly throw me a quick guideline how to best stack the Dieselbolan with the PP topicals i.e daily dosage, timing, with or without food. Last, do I need an A.I. or anti-estrogen with the diesel. I am currently only taking reseveratrol and will be throwing in Vitex with the 1 T Tren, possibly an A.I as well.

Let me know so I can order from you ASAP.

Thanks!

S

There is a posibility for hair loss. However, it would be minimal. I was worried about the same thing and I am prone to hairloss. I noticed no change in the amount of hair I have.

Take the PP topical as directed. Preferably in the AM after a shower.

Take 2 dieselbolan before your work out, and the other 1 8 hours from your workout dose. So, take 1 AM and 2 preworkout if you lift in the afternooon. Or 2 pre-workout and 1 PM if yo lift in the mornings. Take it with or without food. Not a big difference. I always take it with my pre-workout shake.

Your probably will not need an AI with dieselbolan, but you should always have one on hand just in case. If it were beastdrol it would be a definite "no".

 

[supreme]

Buff,

Thanks for the info, going to order the Dieselbolan now, do you have an A.I recommendation?

Since you are concerned about the hair issue, what do you think about Katanadrol - either alone or stacked later with the dieselbolan (after I do PCT from the PP topicals and Dieselbolan)

Would a stack of Dieselbolan & Tren tfo be safer for the hair? - My goal is always lean, "dry" gains with decent cuts & vascularity - while not going bald or needing a bra

Thanks for the help!

Can't wait for the dieselbolan to arrive - it so cool to get these things "legally" as well as some of the new research peptides (which are coming next)

S

 

[dabuffguy]

Buff,

Thanks for the info, going to order the Dieselbolan now, do you have an A.I recommendation?

Arimidex or aromasin.

Since you are concerned about the hair issue, what do you think about Katanadrol - either alone or stacked later with the dieselbolan (after I do PCT from the PP topicals and Dieselbolan)


That's the next cycle I am running actually.



Would a stack of Dieselbolan & Tren tfo be safer for the hair? -

No, not really.



My goal is always lean, "dry" gains with decent cuts & vascularity - while not going bald or needing a bra

Thanks for the help!

Can't wait for the dieselbolan to arrive - it so cool to get these things "legally" as well as some of the new research peptides (which are coming next)

S

^^^^

 

[supreme]

Buff,

for the A.I. is o.k. to use a liquid research product (any suggestions - AG guys are not rating too high these days) or should I order tabs?

One final question, I just looked at the formula for Katanadrol and since it is a 19 - Nor product, shouldn't there be a minimal or no effect on hair?

Keep everyone posted on the Dieselbolan + Katandrol stack - If I am reading the chemistry right this should only be lean, dry gains with decreased bodyfat?

Thanks again for all the help!

S

 

[dabuffguy]

Buff,

for the A.I. is o.k. to use a liquid research product (any suggestions - AG guys are not rating too high these days) or should I order tabs?

One final question, I just looked at the formula for Katanadrol and since it is a 19 - Nor product, shouldn't there be a minimal or no effect on hair?

Keep everyone posted on the Dieselbolan + Katandrol stack - If I am reading the chemistry right this should only be lean, dry gains with decreased bodyfat?

Thanks again for all the help!

S

I always go with tabs for my AI.



19-nor can bring hairloss. Virtually every single hormone can potentially do this. The risk is low, and I think you are over-evaluating the effects of hairloss, if there is any at all. You aren't going to shed like a dog and lose half of your hair in 4 weeks.


If you have a clean diet, you will lose some BF. There is no drastic body fat reduction as a direct result of using these. You will definitely gain plenty of lean mass.