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NEED some serious advise about continuing clomid

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NEED some serious advise about continuing clomid.. Just did 8 weeks of test E 500/wk finished up with HCG and on day 6 of clomid .. I just broke up with my gf for 4 years and im thinking i shouldn't be taking this clomid cause it fuking me up real good.. I just dont want it to get worse and have me crash later

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What do u guys think .. Im only on 50mg/day but i can fell its not helping.
I got nolva and proviron also. THX
 
hey man, snap on almost every count.

just finished same cycle, just split up (engaged) and I'm on day 4 of clomid at 100mg. To be honest I ain't really letting it get on top of me too much. If you genuinly thinks it's having a seriously adverse effact on your state of mind then come off it and replace with nolva (personally I'm using both).
 
Does she know you juice? me and my girlfriend have an open relationship, she even shoots me up most the time. ANd she knows during PCT and shit i can get alittle bit more emotional. The shit can fuck with your head but i also feel you can control alot of it if you really trully try. Bro if you love the girl then talk to her and get her back. And tell her whats really up and maybe shell be more understnading? i dunno if any of this really helped but i was in a similiar sitution.
 
Dermacrine, give this a try..

I am in a trial with it right now, and i will probably never use clomid again... period.. The eyesight loss, the emotions.. no thanks

do your self a favor..

good luck
 
SpyWizard said:
Dermacrine, give this a try..

I am in a trial with it right now, and i will probably never use clomid again... period.. The eyesight loss, the emotions.. no thanks

do your self a favor..

good luck
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are you talking about trails from clomid, or permanent eye damage? I took clomid at night before bed and had no emotional problems.....was a little grouchy is all
 
add in the proviron. and if you are taking more than 50mg per day, cut it to 50mg. Dont know where that high front end clomid dosing came from but its a load of crap.

whats with all this clomid bashing? I notice its quickly followed by dermacrine pushing.
 
mphowells said:
I get wicked trails/tracers from Clomid. Emotionally though I'm ok.
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why would any one want to take that over dermacrin...if they used some dermacrin then they would judt forget about clomid for pct all together.
 
needtogetas said:
so has derma .....
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No it has not. I searched the net and there are maybe 10 or 15 total logs or reports of people that have used dermacrine. Most of them by people like yourself, who did not use for PCT. even if there were a hundred logs, it would not be "proven".

Clomid on the other hand is backed by studies, thousands of logs and articles.

I wont say dermacrine does not work, I have not used it. But to say that its proven borders on idiocy.
 
jamesG said:
No it has not. I searched the net and there are maybe 10 or 15 total logs or reports of people that have used dermacrine. Most of them by people like yourself, who did not use for PCT. even if there were a hundred logs, it would not be "proven".

Clomid on the other hand is backed by studies, thousands of logs and articles.

I wont say dermacrine does not work, I have not used it. But to say that its proven borders on idiocy.
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Good Post!!
 
This is the thing...

Besides the sides, (blurred vision, mood swings,,etc) Clomid does not work for everyone. And for those where it doesn't it can actually have the reverse effect. For me, it killed libido and lowered my sperm level to a drop. Remember, it's estrogenic. An antagonist, yeah, but apparently there's no telling how that can affect you. The HPTA is very delicate.


Nolva is essentially the same thing though more site specific. So unless you're really prone to gyno, Nolva is pretty useless. It does not help in recovery and may hinder it.

Dermacrine is good as is "Post Cycle" but that's only if cycles are modest and gyno isn't a mjor threat. Personally, I think that low dose a-dex along with some natural supps is the best way to go.
 
jamesG said:
No it has not. I searched the net and there are maybe 10 or 15 total logs or reports of people that have used dermacrine. Most of them by people like yourself, who did not use for PCT. even if there were a hundred logs, it would not be "proven".

Clomid on the other hand is backed by studies, thousands of logs and articles.

I wont say dermacrine does not work, I have not used it. But to say that its proven borders on idiocy.
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although the name dermacrin may not have bin around as long as clomid and may not have as many studies don it. the ingredients in it have bin around quite I wile as well and have many studies don on them.not only that ya derma has not got thousands of reported side effects like clomid dose but maybe thats because it has not bin around as long to right.lol
 
enacer420nj said:
are you talking about trails from clomid, or permanent eye damage? I took clomid at night before bed and had no emotional problems.....was a little grouchy is all
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eyesight loss, it comes back, but ya just never know.. it's a weird sense.. farsightedness was something i never thought i would have to deal with..
 
needtogetas said:
although the name dermacrin may not have bin around as long as clomid and may not have as many studies don it. the ingredients in it have bin around quite I wile as well and have many studies don on them.not only that ya derma has not got thousands of reported side effects like clomid dose but maybe thats because it has not bin around as long to right.lol
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meh
 
Nelson Montana said:
This is the thing...

Besides the sides, (blurred vision, mood swings,,etc) Clomid does not work for everyone. And for those where it doesn't it can actually have the reverse effect. For me, it killed libido and lowered my sperm level to a drop. Remember, it's estrogenic. An antagonist, yeah, but apparently there's no telling how that can affect you. The HPTA is very delicate.


Nolva is essentially the same thing though more site specific. So unless you're really prone to gyno, Nolva is pretty useless. It does not help in recovery and may hinder it.

Dermacrine is good as is "Post Cycle" but that's only if cycles are modest and gyno isn't a mjor threat. Personally, I think that low dose a-dex along with some natural supps is the best way to go.
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hmmm so using clomid as PCT if your estrogenic/gyno sensative is a problem? are you saying clomid can actually cause gyno??? what about being used with nolvadex
 
bro gets some derma man.. i got busted cheating on my gf when i was running clomid.. i was fucken reck for weeks.. it made me sooo much more emotional on top of the fact that i felt like a peice of shit for what i did... the derma will elevate your mood withing 15 minutes !!!!
 
you can try some aromasin. there is alot of research that shows it provides for a kick ass pct. im going to try it myself when i finish up my cycle. also might wanna give the dermacrine a shot, if its all its cracked up to be you should recover nicely. last thing, its much better to be a little moody now but get a nice recovery than stop the clomid, recover on your own, and feel like shit for about 6 months versus 6 weeks.
 
I did drop the clomid .. I cant handle the depression .. waiting on the derma, and taking low dose nolva.. as it is still a SERM.. i did finish my HCG so that might help me move along faster.. Just i got businesses to run ans shit to do and this depression is keping me from doing everything
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Bro keep us posted on how the derma works out for you. Your situatuin seem's like the perfect, unbiased, believable situatuion to give us some feedback on the legitimacy of this wonder derma.
 
CBAR said:
What about using clomid AND derma?
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there has bin a few people saying they are going to try this.its not needed but I would still like to here how it worked out for them when they are don.I am shore in a few weeks they will chime in and let us all know.
 
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