Need some help/opinions on first cycle!

[NeverEndn]

Ok well im new to the site so just wanna say hi.

I am 25yrs old , ive been working out for 3yrs now naturally just taking your basic creatine , an all that crap. Im 5'11 an weigh 210 with about 10-12% bodyfat right now, I have a pretty strick diet but its been a lil sloppy being i was pracitcally hibernating through our cold winter.

Ive learned a lot over my years about Anabolic Steroids an PCT an dieting , from working out with a Prof Bodybuilders some who are friends that compete an other close friends but like always i was always given different opinions. So than i thought why not ask you guys. So... being , Yes summer is coming an well i would like to put on some lean as leans as possbile big gains. But i dont wanna go overboard an bloat an retain a huge amount of water but you guys will soon tell me what you think about this cycle. Remember also i do , do cardio about 45min or more a day an i eat well. I was told this cycle is a pretty lean an but good muscle gainer.

Ok so here it goes, this is on a 10-12 week cycle

Week 1-10 Test E 2x week, starting with 500mg than ramp up 3rd or 4th week in to 750mg
Week 1-12 EQ 2x week starting with 400mg than to 600mg
Week 1-4 Anavar ED - 50mg
Week 8-12 Anavar ED - 50mg

PCT Nolva or Letro

Ok now please take this cycle lightly cause i only posted to have it adjusted but adjust it to these three. I dont wish to run Winstrol or DBol or Tren or Deca. The only other thing i was thinking was replacing the Enanthate with T400 sorry if i left anything out im new to explaining this stuff in more technical terms. Thanks for your help

 

[burnthiscorpse]

You never want to run EQ longer than test. EQ should be run 14-16 weeks to make the most of its benefits. For a first cycle, just run 500mg of test a week for 10-12 weeks. Trust me. Then you will experience test and know how your body reacts to it. 750 is way overkill IMHO for a first cycle. Totally not necessary. If you get side effects you wont know whats giving them to you. At 5'11" and at 210 lbs and 10-12% thats a hell of a base to start with. Just test will give you great gains PROVIDED your diet is what it needs to be. But, bulk or cut. Pick one and do it.

 

[kings27]

i totally agree 750 is too high. if you really wanted to stack just run the test at 250 and run the eq at 400. im actually on some sust 300 and eq running it about like that and im a noticing already after the start of my 4 th week. you dont need all that right now

 

[kings27]

the sust doesnt have to be higher than the eq cause it doesnt suppress the libido like deca would. you will get good results from that

 

[NeverEndn]

ok cool thnx guys much appreciated ok so how about if i was to just stay with 500 test an 400 eq an 50 anavar would that be ok pls help

 

[burnthiscorpse]

If you want to throw the var in at the beginning or end then fine. I still say run only test for a first cycle. You wont know how you react to it if you dont run it alone. You will make alot of gain just off of test.

 

[DJ_UFO]

You don't need all that crap inside your body for a first cycle. A first cycle is different from the rest because you test the reaction of the body. That's why you should run only test. YOU WILL see big gains. Your body is virgin o this type of drug and your receptors are clean. After this, you will have an idea on how to tweak your second cycle.

 

[Bigpimpin10]

You don't need all that crap inside your body for a first cycle. A first cycle is different from the rest because you test the reaction of the body. That's why you should run only test. YOU WILL see big gains. Your body is virgin o this type of drug and your receptors are clean. After this, you will have an idea on how to tweak your second cycle.

good fucking post. no point of more than one compound for your first cycle

 

[NeverEndn]

ya you guys are right maybe ill just start with that then , i guess once i c how i react i can always add in later. Thanks guys appreciate the help, also one last thing , what would give me better solid less bloating gains, Test E an Var, or Test for a bit than Test an EQ or just EQ an Var. I heard EQ by itself kills libido?

 

[prisongaurd]

Hey guys what wood u sugest 30mg of dbol and 250 sust ever 4 days or 30mg of dbol a day and eq what wood give better gains