need some help here

[willyb021]

I just started my first cycle ever. I am shooting test e 500mg a week. i took my first dose yesterday. I used a 23 guage 1 and 1/2 inch syringe. ... today my asscheek hurts ridiculously bad. i can barely sit down... i was wondering if the length of the needle is too big ( it looked HUGE) , and if there is any other smaller syringe i can use. please help, for my poor asses sake! haha

 

[ajaygill]

first of all 500mg a week is to much for your first cycle, it should of been 250mg/w. Some stats before we can help you out. How does your cycle local alltogethr.

 

[willyb021]

im 5"11 about 160 lbs.

 

[thebadguy54]

23g 1.5" is fine for glutes.

 

[thebadguy54]

I just noticed this dude is 160 lbs. You need to eat bro! Why are you using gear? You need to learn how to eat first or you'll loose all your gains when you come off.

 

[daville]

i ran 500mg my first cycle and i blew up. eat ur ass off lift hard .

 

[daville]

take sustain alpha, unleashed, and post cycle for ur PCT and youll bounce back great off of test only

 

[joe d]

you are going to have injection pain. are you splitting the dose between 2 shots and 3 days apart. are you rubbing the area down after inject? you def. need to eat more. 300g or more protein 3500+ cals and of course the right fats and carbs for you. do you have a good pct lined up?

 

[willyb021]

i plan on taking sustain alpha , unleased and post cycle . like daville said up above

 

[joe d]

i plan on taking sustain alpha , unleased and post cycle . like daville said up above

you should have some real drugs to. i like nolvadex but more people seem to like arimidex and some others. you should have these now.

 

[rediculus]

I assume your splitting the shots up? not like 500mg all at once right? I know stupid question but....I remember some of the shots we got in the army for "vacines" almost seemed worse than the possible disease like shooting peanut butter in your ass cheek. Maybe even split each 125 or whatever shot into 2 smaller shots? get both cheeks?

 

[jroy19]

i think the guy asked for help with his injection site not on cycle advise

 

[needtogetaas]

you should have some real drugs to. i like nolvadex but more people seem to like arimidex and some others. you should have these now.

Sustain Alpha
has worked great on its own for many people.

 

[ajaygill]

bro no way are you ready to use aas. 5.11 160 pounds im 5.10 170 pounds no aas or anything. I suggest you save the test for something else. Also how old are you?

 

[kas1]

Pretty small but who knows. How old are you?

 

[smtimelevi]

i think the guy asked for help with his injection site not on cycle advise

Maybe you are shooting in the wrong spot, if you do it right there wont be any pain at all. It is test e, should b smooth.

A) BUTTOCK


The best site for steroid injections is in the gluteus medius muscle which is located in the upper outer quadrant of the buttock. The iliac crest serves as a landmark for this quadrant. The spot for an injection in an adult is usually to 7 1/2 centimeters (2 to 3 inches) below the iliac crest. The iliac crest is the top of the pelvic girdle on the posterior (back) side. You can find the iliac crest by feeling the uppermost bony area above each gluteal muscle. The upper outer quadrant is chosen because the muscle in this area is quite thick and has few nerves. The probability of injecting the drug into a blood vessel is remote in this area. Injecting here reduces the chance of injury to the sciatic nerve which runs through the lower and middle area of the buttock. It controls the posterior of each thigh and the entire leg from the knee down. If an injection is too close to this nerve or actually hits it, extreme pain and temporary paralysis can be felt in these areas. This is especially undesirable and warrants staying as far away from this area as possible.

 

[willyb021]

im 22. . .

 

[HAYEZ]

first of all 500mg a week is to much for your first cycle, it should of been 250mg/w. Some stats before we can help you out. How does your cycle local alltogethr.

NO 500MG OF TEST IS NOT TO MUCH....QUIT REPEATING WHAT OTHERS SAY....


500MG OF TEST IS A FINE 1ST CYCLE....THAT WAS THE STANDARD UNTIL A FEW PEOPLE STARTED RUNNING THERE MOUTHS ABOUT THESE LOW DOSE CYCLES...UNTIL THOSE THAT DO THESE 250 A WK CYCLES POST UP AT THE END WHY THERE DISSAPOINTED IN THE RESULTS...


back to you 5 11 at 160 pounds is tiny...way to early to start aas..you should of had your diet and training in order and a solid base before considering steroids....
now since you already started and we know your going to go with it,,,

the test 500 per week..do you have an anti e?
do you have pct lined up?
do you have hcg?
do you know how to eat?
post your diet!
hows your routine?
you can order some 25 gauge needles and that will help lower the pain...after your injection take a warm rag and massage the injection spot for a few minutes...that will help

 

[dsteel]

im 22. . .

This is pretty young... i was 160 at 22 and I was also looking at using aas then.

BUT, I got a little patience and i am 26 I was able to put on almost 20lb of muscle naturally with training diet and rest! and I am so happy I did! now I am gonna start my first cycle because I have been at a stand still for close to a year. give it a little more time I promise you will not regret it. your 22, your hormones should be still topping out!

And lastly if I may say listen to most of these guys here! they are wise! Good Luck

 

[kas1]

I agree no prob with 500mg. The pain could be brand related or you're simply not used to it. Give it a few weeks and you should know. I've had some that kept me from sleeping on the injection side for days. didn't get any better had to throw it out. This is not normal. You should experience some soreness for a few days being your first.

And man you really need to eat. Don't throw your first cycle away just because you are too lazy to eat and train properly. No better time to start than now.

 

[joe d]

Sustain Alpha
has worked great on its own for many people.

im not disputing that what he has could be enough. but what if it isnt? shouldn't he have the othere in case they are needed?

 

[HAYEZ]

im not disputing that what he has could be enough. but what if it isnt? shouldn't he have the othere in case they are needed?

always use nolvadex or clomid as a base....add on to that with otc products...having a system that works shouldnt be changed just upgraded...sustain is a good product and i would def use it in any pct...never alone though always use nolva and hcg prior as base

 

[79steeler]

If your doing 500mg a week split it into two injections, one Monday, and one Thursday. If your test is 250mg/ml then you'll do 1cc each time. The pins you are using are fine, you could go to a 25g 1.5" if you want. After you draw the oil into the syringe heat it with a hair dryer for 30 seconds so it's more your body temperature. Inject slowly it should take a good 30-45seconds to inject.

Make sure you are using a clean protocal. Always swab the top of your vials with alcohol, and the injection site.

You should draw your oil with a heavier gauge needle and use a thin gauge needle to inject. The reason for changing needles is because you can dull a needle just by going thru the rubber stopper. Never touch the needle with your hands or anything else.

It may take your body a few injections to get use to the BA in the oil. Your injections should over time become less painful.

 

[willyb021]

i appreciate all of your advice. i will take it all into consideration.... but as for everybody saying im to small to be doing it. you gotta start somewhere right. we were all born naturally beefy. this is a picture of me below. im not completely skin and bones and i think ill have great results . i eat like a horse,chug protein like its my job, and hit the gym hard. so stop busting my balls ;-)

 

[V-Machine]

You're dishing out advice on something you've never experienced? Now that's just plain stupid.

bro no way are you ready to use aas. 5.11 160 pounds im 5.10 170 pounds no aas or anything. I suggest you save the test for something else. Also how old are you?

 

[V-Machine]

Good post that addresses the original post! Slower injections are less painful injections. I'd definitely take my time and go with 45 seconds or more. Most others also seem to forgotten that the first jabs in a first cycle tend to be the most painful....your body isn't meant to have lumps of metal stuck into it shortly followed by oil/BA.

If your doing 500mg a week split it into two injections, one Monday, and one Thursday. If your test is 250mg/ml then you'll do 1cc each time. The pins you are using are fine, you could go to a 25g 1.5" if you want. After you draw the oil into the syringe heat it with a hair dryer for 30 seconds so it's more your body temperature. Inject slowly it should take a good 30-45seconds to inject.

Make sure you are using a clean protocal. Always swab the top of your vials with alcohol, and the injection site.

You should draw your oil with a heavier gauge needle and use a thin gauge needle to inject. The reason for changing needles is because you can dull a needle just by going thru the rubber stopper. Never touch the needle with your hands or anything else.

It may take your body a few injections to get use to the BA in the oil. Your injections should over time become less painful.

 

[V-Machine]

No offence meant but that pic isn't helping your cause. If you weigh 160 you just aren't eating enough. Took me 8000 calories a day before my bodyweight went up. Bottom line is if you aren't eating enough you might well be in for a big disappointment.

i appreciate all of your advice. i will take it all into consideration.... but as for everybody saying im to small to be doing it. you gotta start somewhere right. we were all born naturally beefy. this is a picture of me below. im not completely skin and bones and i think ill have great results . i eat like a horse,chug protein like its my job, and hit the gym hard. so stop busting my balls ;-)

 

[willyb021]

thanks alot. & in my last post i meant to say we WERENT all born naturally beefy... to those of you who said im too small. i gotta start somewhere. but yeah thanks for everyones advice. my next injection is tuesday. ill try to take it slower & rub the site afterwards since some of you said that will help. thanks!

 

[V-Machine]

Starting somewhere....yes we all start by sorting out our diets and training. At 160 you have some work to do on one or both of those areas.

But it seems to me that your mind is made up. Good luck and hope the slower injections etc work.

thanks alot. & in my last post i meant to say we WERENT all born naturally beefy... to those of you who said im too small. i gotta start somewhere. but yeah thanks for everyones advice. my next injection is tuesday. ill try to take it slower & rub the site afterwards since some of you said that will help. thanks!