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[germaine91]

Just remember when nothing goes as plan, don't plan on writing why you dont know why your cycle didnt turn out the way you wanted. No sympathy will be found here. These guys know their shit. Ive watched some of my bros jump in to quickly and really f'ed themselves up. Take advice and go natty for awhile. Im 24 and still working on my base before I jump into anything. 6' 195lbs around 12% bodyfat. Lastly, find a bulking diet that you can do without roids and not gain a bunch of fat. Ive never had a bulk where I gained 15, but mostly fat. All I can advise is read read read and when you think you've read enough read more. The diet forum has some good info. Thats my 2 cents.

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It wasn't wasnt most fat, i did put on mostly muscle mass, just, i was always fat when younger and am sensitive bout my bf and wanna put on lean mass without the few lbs of fat

 

[craniumak]

ye earlier this year i put on bout 15lbs in 3months through diet and trainin but too much fat gain.

This is why I talked about to much fat gain bro. Read your posts.

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[germaine91]

ye i know where u got it from, just, it was too much for MY liking even tho the majority was muscle mass and i did actually physically look better, wasnt doing any cardio durin that tho so now ima go on similar diet but train 4days instead of 5 and do 2days cardio and thn sunday is rest

 

[Caliguy23]

I know I'm new to the forum and I know jack nothin about ROIDS. But last year these were my stats.

22
6'1
172lbs BF (unknown prob 12-15%)

After 3 1/2 - 4months. Of 250 grams of protein and 2-3 protein shakes a day. NO ROIDS all natural my stats went to.

6'1
210lbs
Stayed at about same BF

40lbs gained(obviously not all muscle, but sure as hell put on overall mass)

And my bench went from 150 to 195ish. It is a very long and slow process and I had kill it 4 days a week in the gym. It CAN be done. Wait a few years and train THEN consider a cycle IMO. I havnt worked out nearly as hard the past year or so and I am maintaining my 200lbs easily. Im considering my first cycle of Sust. 250 and dbol. But this isn't until I hit my next wall in the gym. Were both still young man. Think hard of how u wanna go about it.

 

[germaine91]

ye ur right, ima give it another couple of years to max out my natural potential, i went from 212lbs down to 161lbs last summer in a 4month period, very strict diet, with 4day split and hiit cardio, then i went up to bout 180lbs, bout 175 atm n gonna try put on a lean 15lbs over the following months, maybe 20 and then cut before summer, thanks for all the help