Need help with potential cycle...

[gettnhuge954]

Hi,

I need a hand with some ideas in reference to what stack to go with. I am definitely starting out with Cyp 200mg/ml 1cc per week, b/c I can get a script for it (Yippee!!) but from there is gets alittle more difficult...I was thinking of mabye deca 300 1cc per week and .5 ml of winny every other day mbye half way through the 12-15 weeks I plan to do it....problem is I got alittle gyno from a previous cycle, and can not use nolvadex....it almost made me stroke out.....my bp went through the roof....

Need some cutting ideas...what to stack to shred up....

any ideas??? Thanks!

 

[Makavelli]

Well for one I would not cut with deca. JMO, I would go with test and EQ. Also I would run at least 400 mgs/wk of cyp and 400 EQ. For winstrol run 50 mgs/day. By going every other day your levels will be all over the place.

Remember diet is the key to cutting.

 

[drrman]

Well for one I would not cut with deca. JMO, I would go with test and EQ. Also I would run at least 400 mgs/wk of cyp and 400 EQ. For winstrol run 50 mgs/day. By going every other day your levels will be all over the place.

Remember diet is the key to cutting.

good advice mak!!

 

[Bruce]

so true because deca is so calorie dependend for gains, you will have to eat so clean its not the best choice. eq is the shit i am on it right now and its all lean mass gains. i would run
200mg cyp 1-15
400mg eq 1-15
50-100mg var 12-17 so you are on var while the eq ester clears.
as mak said diet will be the factor in cutting. i am a super ecto and krispey kremes make me lose weight, lol, but i can tell you i dont' grow a bit without 5000cals so i know how important that is, if i go under that i tend to lose weight

 

[first jd]

I always liked using Primobolan, Winny and Prop for cutting cycles. I used 400-600mg primo per wek, 50mg of winny ED and 50-100mg of propinate EOD. One of my favorites. Diet, Diet, Diet!!!! Primobolan is a great drug to diet on. It really helps you keep your muscle mass while you deprive yourself of calories..

 

[Stacemranger]

Isn't primo the only drug you can gain weight on with a calorie deficit?

 

[first jd]

Isn't primo the only drug you can gain weight on with a calorie deficit?

I don't know if you will actually gain weight but you will hold onto much more of your existing muscle. I am no bio-chemist but I remember reading once that Primobolan was actually developed to give to malnurished children to help them hold onto their weight. I am not sure if that is true, but I do remeber reading something like that.

 

[gettnhuge954]

I don't know if you will actually gain weight but you will hold onto much more of your existing muscle. I am no bio-chemist but I remember reading once that Primobolan was actually developed to give to malnurished children to help them hold onto their weight. I am not sure if that is true, but I do remeber reading something like that.

So you think I should cut the cyp completely? Its so cheap and easy to come by for me...I know it bloats a bit...but there has to be a way around that...mabye arimidex? You really like primo that much....does it convert to estrogen?

 

[Makavelli]

So you think I should cut the cyp completely? Its so cheap and easy to come by for me...I know it bloats a bit...but there has to be a way around that...mabye arimidex? You really like primo that much....does it convert to estrogen?

Leave the cyp in there and use 1 mg/day of Arimidex.

 

[gettnhuge954]

Leave the cyp in there and use 1 mg/day of Arimidex.

SO if I were to construct it, the whole thing would look something like:

week 1 - 15: 200mg cyp/ per week
week 4 - 15: 300-400mg equipoise / per week
week 4 - 15: 25-50mg winstrol/ per day
week 4 - 15: 1mg arimidex/ per day or 20mg of Nolvadex/ per day

week 15 - 18: 1500iu HCG / week
week 17 - 19: 40mg of Nolvadex or 150mg of clomid
week 20 - 21: 20mg of of Nolvadex or 100mg of clomid

 

[first jd]

So you think I should cut the cyp completely? Its so cheap and easy to come by for me...I know it bloats a bit...but there has to be a way around that...mabye arimidex? You really like primo that much....does it convert to estrogen?

I prefer prop to other esters as it is easier to manage the sides for me. Plus the bloat is minimum. I am personally not a huge fan of Cyp but that is just my humble opinion. If I were bulking I would be more apt to use an ester like Cyp, but for cutting I would stay clear of it. JMHO....