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Need help with passing guard...

Judo Tom said:
slamming takes no skill and isnt the most practical thing anyway. if slamming is legal people would not hold closed guard when you try to pick them up. there isnt much point in practicing slamming someone from guard IMO

striking def. changes things up but if your in a bjj class you have to understand that you are primarily focusing on your ground grappling technique not ground and pound type stuff. the people there should be really good at helping you and teaching you these type of techniques and it doesnt matter as much how good there striking is on the ground to get you going.

yarg: people really consider that move 'dirty' ? we teach that and some variations off that as the first guard pass to most people.

when people do that to me i just try to sit my uppper body up and 'snatch' one of there arms elbows off my legs and pull it across my body. you can also just switch to an open guard game which i use a lot in practice

slamming is more strength then skill, but slamming WELL does take skill
 
Yarg! said:
Lol thats the cheapest move , but it works. Its kinda frowned upon in tourneys and class sometimes because it required like no skill to do: all you do is cramp them out. A very basic guard pass is to hold on to their belt and press down or press down on their waist and explode on to your knees sort of liek a prayer position to get a solid base. Now start 'walking' back as in shifting your knees back , moving back along the ground, at the same time apply pressure on their waste so they can't move. If their legs do not open, which is usually the case, then you raise one leg to the side like you're kneeling, grab your ankle thru your opponent's leg and straighten your leg out, and it opens them up. This is very risky because if you do not hold the other person steady, they can easily apply a triangle or arm bar at this point. Now that the legs are opened, push one leg towards their face with your shoulder , as in bulldoze it while keeping the other leg pinned down. That is called stacking. When you push far enough where their leg is almost stretched, move to the side, and place one hand under their neck and hug them close. That is side mount. That is also extremely difficult to describe lol.


hey Yarg!
I think that was a mighty fine discription!
Skittles,
From a woman's POV and IMHO, this technique is great. I have taken Jiu-Jitsu for 8 years and in all my time it has been my trusted tried and true method of escape. In the beginning i spent many a day getting WORKED over by bigger, stronger people. When I started training there were no women/girls in my class or even at my school for that matter. I am an ace at defense and protecting my ears! ( don't want gross cauli ears) Guys dont want to lose to girls, thats a fact, so I got twisted more often than not. What this did, was develop patients and good technique. I was NEVER going to win on strenght EVER.
I like to think of Jiu-Jitsu as Chess, a move, then a counter move, you have to think about your game, be patient and when the opportunity presents itself, attack. I spent my time as a white belt training with Purple or Brown belts so I would'nt get beat up so often, (thank you Reylson) instead I would learn, not just fight for my life curled up in a defensive postition! Maybe your instructor would let you train with an advanced student, you would learn a ton, and they will not have the ego a white belt might.
I have only a few moves that I actually use often to get the tap, triangle, footlock and an arm bar, I took the time to master those, and they work everytime. Best word I could give is be a sponge, it does not matter if you lose now (if you plan on any tourneys losing is not good) class time is to learn. Oh.... slamming is desperation, you could really hurt a beginner that has no clue how to fall, or knows how or WHEN to let go. And another thing don't do something to someone else you would't want done to yourself.... we used to hear this alot, fighting dirty to get the win!!! Sometimes, I wish I did!!! ha!
Oh and and one more thing try sparring with a t-shirt, no Gi top, it's fun and a challenge!
 
Kane Fan said:
slamming is more strength then skill, but slamming WELL does take skill

yeah i kinda went over the top w/ that because there are many ways to counter and prevent a slam if you are good as well.
 
in judo it used to be if you attempted a slam all you would have to do is raise the guy above your shoulders and that would end a match.

now if you pick the guy up from teh guard and he completely clears the matt they stop and restart standing.. so i am pretty good at keeping someone from picking me up while i have them in my guard...
 
Another good one that is kind of dirty. But if you are somewhat strong you can do a neck crank to loosen a guard up. You might even get a couple taps as well. A lot of people don't like neck cranks, but hey I don't like getting caught in armbars in the gaurd either!
 
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