need help with a back routine!

[Eminem]

I am struggling to think of another back exercise for my routine, I've got pull-ups, bent over rows, deads, so I need one more what do you think? Also , i can only do about 10 pull-up first set then anywhere from 5-7 for my next two sets, would it be more beneficial to do pulldowns where i could guarentee a higher number of reps?

My upper back could use so work.. thanks

 

[CrimsonKing]

why are you concerned with doing a hugh number of reps?

 

[Haz]

Deadlifts, rows and chins are all you need for good back. Work on increasing your poundage, and you'll grow.

 

[bishonen]

why are you concerned with doing a hugh number of reps?

I have the same concern as he does. I have joint problems, and doing pull-ups plays hell on them. I went from sets of 6,6 to 8,3 over a two month period. Not much improvement.

It depends way too much on how my elbows are feeling that day. But I think the lat-pulldown machine looks stupid, so I stick with pull-ups.

 

[coolcolj]

forget the reps! Add weight!

I was doing bodyweight chins, and I was never able to do anymore than 8 reps no matter what I did. I would 8 on the 1st and 2nd set and then 4 on the 3rd.

But as soon as I added weight and drop the reps down to 6 I could 3 sets of 6 with 10lbs attached no sweat, and my lats blew up.

 

[Victorian guy]

three or four

weighted front chins
barbell rows, or tbar rows- I switch them around
deadlifts- I like them, but due to a lower back injury incurred a few years ago, am wary of them.
close grip pulldowns

I don't think increasing volume is the thing to do...stick with two, three at most, back exercises and go for heavy weight.

 

[Robert Jan]

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