Need help planning a possible oral cycle

[tdoggnyc]

Hey guys & gals, I need a little help planning out a possible oral cycle. (I know, I know all oral sucks, but I just don't want to inject.)

What I was thinking was:

5 week DBol Cycle:

wk. 1 - 10 mg/day
wk. 2 - 15 mg/day
wk. 3 - 20 mg/day
wk. 4 - 20 mg/day
wk. 5 - 25 mg/day

Also while on this I would take 250mg/day of Andriol starting in week 3. Throughout this cycle (wks. 1-4) I would take 10 mg/day of Nolvadex, and would start week 5 with a 10 day cycle of Clomid.

As for me, I'm 24 5'7" 165lbs with about 8-9% bf. I have been training hard for about 2 1/2 years with about 2-3 years of half-heartedly training. I've done one 4 week oral fina cycle last June during which I gained approx. 12-15 lbs. and have kept 7-9 of that number since.

Thanks for your help.

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[Johnny Cut]

is this your first cycle?, stats,

 

[tdoggnyc]

No. As I said in my initial post, I have done one short oral fina cycle. My stats are also located in the post.

 

[Big Engineer]

You can screw your liver mixing two orals on the same cycle, why not learn to inject??

 

[Lift Chief]

250mg of anadrol?... that is not what you're suggesting i hope... maybe i'm misreading it.

 

[tdoggnyc]

(Lift Chief) Actually, what I was proposing was 250 mg of Andriol for 12 days.

(Big Engineer) I know you're probably right and it really isn't worth doing all oral either, but I would really like to avoid needles right now. Maybe in the future they are something I would consider, but for right now I'm hoping it doesn't come to that.

 

[The Terminator]

If using an oral alone my only choice would be anavar. But a few guys have had decent results by using dbol for 4 weeks followed by anavar for ~6 weeks. (note: I would not do an oral only myself, but that's just my personal preference)

 

[Lift Chief]

(Lift Chief) Actually, what I was proposing was 250 mg of Andriol for 12 days.

(Big Engineer) I know you're probably right and it really isn't worth doing all oral either, but I would really like to avoid needles right now. Maybe in the future they are something I would consider, but for right now I'm hoping it doesn't come to that.

My bad- i would suggest tapering down the dbol on the final week to try and help keep most of your gains.

 

[Johnny Cut]

just curious tho, why do u want to avoid pins?

 

[tdoggnyc]

(Johnny Cut) I think it's more of a mental thing right now. Also, I live with my fiancee and there is no way that I could get her to go along with the needles right now. With the pills it's just like, "Honey, their only supplements."

(Terminator) I was thinking the same thing originally (only Var), but I have had a bitch of a time with finding and from what I understand it is really expensive. If I had the opportunity, however, I would travel that path in a heartbeat.

I actually have one more question for everybody. I know that one of the "side effects" you always hear of is sterility. But does anyone here have any pesonal experience with that? (ie. know anybody that is sterile due to steroid use? were they a heavy user?) I'd be really interested to hear about this. Thanks.

 

[bronco944]

You can screw your liver mixing two orals on the same cycle, why not learn to inject??

actualy andriol is not liver toxic at all. its also practiculay worthless but it is not 17 aa

 

[Big Anaconda]

You could try a dbol/var cycle

I agree that oral only is a bad idea though. Injecting i think is less hassle than remembering to take pills everywhere.

If you do try the dbol only do that for 5 weeks @ 30mg per day. Var may be expensive to get hold of.

 

[humanoid]

I live with my girlfriend, so that's really not a viable excuse. I still manage to find the time to inject twice per week. If you're still insistant upon orals only, I also suggest dbol and anavar.

 

[tdoggnyc]

As far as living with my girlfriend, it's not managing to find the time to inject that would be the problem.

First problem would be storage. Secondly, if I had any marks what so ever she would notice. Finally, and this doesn't really relate to her, I was told by the military that any injectables are not to be done in correlation with the Anthrax Vaccination that I am currently in the early stages of receiving. (I was told orals would be okay. I don't know why this would be, but I'll take their word for it.)

 

[sermon_of_mockery]

d- bol @ var is fucking awsome,pm me for details

 

[PartyBoy]

Tdoggnyc - I'm on a Var + Andriol cycle at the moment - nearly 4 weeks in. I'm using a Spanish Generic 40mg ed - and it's awesome for strength gains (not as expensive as I thought it would be £95 for 100 tabs). Andriol I'm running at 8 * 40mg ed therefore 320mg.

There's not a big following of Andriol on these boards but I'm prepared to give it a go. Andriol is not liver toxic as it is not 17-alk and is absorbed through the lymphatic system and Var is only mildly toxic so I reckon I'll be o.k. running them together.

For my next cycle I'm looking to do D-bol + Var/Winny using Anti-e's and liver protectants.

My better half would also give me a bit of a grillin if I had darts lying around the place so for now I'm stickin with the orals (Oh for a quiet life!! )

 

[sermon_of_mockery]

Tdoggnyc - I'm on a Var + Andriol cycle at the moment - nearly 4 weeks in. I'm using a Spanish Generic 40mg ed - and it's awesome for strength gains (not as expensive as I thought it would be £95 for 100 tabs). Andriol I'm running at 8 * 40mg ed therefore 320mg.

There's not a big following of Andriol on these boards but I'm prepared to give it a go. Andriol is not liver toxic as it is not 17-alk and is absorbed through the lymphatic system and Var is only mildly toxic so I reckon I'll be o.k. running them together.

For my next cycle I'm looking to do D-bol + Var/Winny using Anti-e's and liver protectants.

My better half would also give me a bit of a grillin if I had darts lying around the place so for now I'm stickin with the orals (Oh for a quiet life!! )

2 orals is pushing it,but 3 is overbaord son.No need

 

[PartyBoy]

I mean it would be Dbol+Var or Dbol+Winny.