Need help for first oral cycle..

[jFeature10]

Hello, I'm 22 and am considering my first cycle. Before I go on anymore I'll list my stats; I'm 5'9, 175lbs. I've been training for 7 years, 5 1/2 of which I'd consider serious. When I began @ 15 I was 5'9 115.. Anyway, I eat 3,500-3,800 calories a day.

Now, since I've always had more of a 'cut' look, I envy the watery- bulky look, don't know why, but I do. I know dbol or drol would be good for that, but for my first cycle I want to run something pretty mild(side wise). What I've considered was Epi-Plex or Mechabol, but please, I'm open to all suggestions. I've researched AAS/PH cycles for about 2 years now, and understand the importance of support supps (though I'd like to have some liver protection suggestions), and no not to run PCT without a SERM.

All help is appreciated. Thanks

 

[jFeature10]

Bump.

 

[deejleos]

Well if u don't wanna do injections, BEASTROL plain an simple.


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[jFeature10]

Thanks, I plan to inject in the future as I don't want to become to content with orals because there are less sides pinning. As for Beastdrol; i've heard it's bunk.. Regaurdless, I'm looking for a milder oral.. I wouldn't exactly consider an SD clone mild..

 

[Youngncurious]

Thanks, I plan to inject in the future as I don't want to become to content with orals because there are less sides pinning. As for Beastdrol; i've heard it's bunk.. Regaurdless, I'm looking for a milder oral.. I wouldn't exactly consider an SD clone mild..

Beastdrol bunk? Sorry bro it's not bunk. I'm not really feeling what you want from an oral only cycle...something mild? No aas are just considered "mild". Some less sides than others but if your gunna cycle don't do it with some bull** ph that claims to get you huge in 4 weeks...

 

[training700]

Go with helladrol from mrsupps or some turinabol would be good

 

[deejleos]

Thanks, I plan to inject in the future as I don't want to become to content with orals because there are less sides pinning. As for Beastdrol; i've heard it's bunk.. Regaurdless, I'm looking for a milder oral.. I wouldn't exactly consider an SD clone mild..

Beastrol is far from bunk. I think that's first time ive heard someone say that. Look at the ingredients for urself . Beastrol gives u nice dry gains no bloat and great strength. Milder as far as what?? Sides? U got the $ then anavar is good or tbol.

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[eddymerckx]

wait --no hurry may not even be finished growing. and skip the gear and use oTC supps/Diet/and VIP-SLEEP

 

[Leather Daddy]

anavar

 

[training700]

What have you been using as far as supplements?

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[calpoly]

tbol

 

[jFeature10]

As far as supps, I use ON Whey, Universal Creatine Mono, Fishoil, and a pre workout I change from time to time. I've ran one test booster, BioForge, but never really saw them as anything that'd benefit me..

Thanks for the suggestions, I'm just really set on not using SD tho. No Epistane though?

 

[Judo Tom]

i do think you are a bit young but more importantly i bet your diet needs work.. try experimenting with a higher calorie diet that is very strict and clean. find the macro ratio that works for you that will add muscle but not fat.

once you dial that in id suggest an otc like helladrol or beastdrol.. btw beast is SICK and definitely not bunk.. almost too strong for a young first timer.

oh n2guard will take care of your liver and basically everything else while on.

good luck

 

[jFeature10]

Just the basics. Ran one testbooster(BFv3) and two rounds of X-Factor. Where could I find OT?

 

[jFeature10]

Just the basics. Ran one testbooster(BFv3) and two rounds of X-Factor. Where could I find OT?

 

[Judo Tom]

epistane wouldnt be bad but its not as much as a bulker as the other otc options out there..

 

[needtogetaas]

weeks
1-4 Deiselbolan 1 cap 3 times a day
1-4 Ns-guard 7 caps every day
1-4 Bridge 2 caps 3 times a day
4-8 unleashed and post cycle 1 caps of each 3 times a day
4-10 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm the first 4 weeks then drop
Down to 3 am and pm for the last 2 weeks
4-8 N2BM-DAA 1 dose every day ( optional)
8-12 Sarsm s-4 25mg every day

 

[jFeature10]

Sorry for the same post. Phone kept giving error messages.

 

[jFeature10]

weeks
1-4 Deiselbolan 1 cap 3 times a day
1-4 Ns-guard 7 caps every day
1-4 Bridge 2 caps 3 times a day
4-8 unleashed and post cycle 1 caps of each 3 times a day
4-10 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm the first 4 weeks then drop
Down to 3 am and pm for the last 2 weeks
4-8 N2BM-DAA 1 dose every day ( optional)
8-12 Sarsm s-4 25mg every day

This would be enough? Could I cut out the SARMs and still have a good run? I forgot to mention I ran SARMs for a short period (few days) didn't like how it made me feel.. I was actually looking at Deiselbolan for a little. What are typical sides? And you're suggesting a SERM isn't needed?

 

[training700]

Diesel is good don't know why don't hear about it as much but in many ways better than beastdrol will add some good size as long as eat eat eat

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[mattrag]

Diesel is good don't know why don't hear about it as much but in many ways better than beastdrol will add some good size as long as eat eat eat

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Yea. I have run both hella and Beast, never even considered diesel before. From what I gather it's pretty much a wet bulker. Should be good for the OP looking for the puffy look.