As far as supps, I use ON Whey, Universal Creatine Mono, Fishoil, and a pre workout I change from time to time. I've ran one test booster, BioForge, but never really saw them as anything that'd benefit me..
Thanks for the suggestions, I'm just really set on not using SD tho. No Epistane though?
i do think you are a bit young but more importantly i bet your diet needs work.. try experimenting with a higher calorie diet that is very strict and clean. find the macro ratio that works for you that will add muscle but not fat.
once you dial that in id suggest an otc like helladrol or beastdrol.. btw beast is SICK and definitely not bunk.. almost too strong for a young first timer.
oh n2guard will take care of your liver and basically everything else while on.
weeks
1-4 Deiselbolan 1 cap 3 times a day
1-4 Ns-guard 7 caps every day
1-4 Bridge 2 caps 3 times a day
4-8 unleashed and post cycle 1 caps of each 3 times a day
4-10 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm the first 4 weeks then drop
Down to 3 am and pm for the last 2 weeks
4-8 N2BM-DAA 1 dose every day ( optional)
8-12 Sarsm s-4 25mg every day
weeks
1-4 Deiselbolan 1 cap 3 times a day
1-4 Ns-guard 7 caps every day
1-4 Bridge 2 caps 3 times a day
4-8 unleashed and post cycle 1 caps of each 3 times a day
4-10 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm the first 4 weeks then drop
Down to 3 am and pm for the last 2 weeks
4-8 N2BM-DAA 1 dose every day ( optional)
8-12 Sarsm s-4 25mg every day
This would be enough? Could I cut out the SARMs and still have a good run? I forgot to mention I ran SARMs for a short period (few days) didn't like how it made me feel.. I was actually looking at Deiselbolan for a little. What are typical sides? And you're suggesting a SERM isn't needed?
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