Need help..... Dbol then test ???

[treeguy]

Hi Guys,
Im new to this forum and would appreciate some advice.
Im 30yrs of age and have been lifting moderately for a couple of years at home.
I am a tree surgeon, hence my login name, and therefore have a very active lifestyle that involves a lot of upper body strength and strength stamina.
My body fat is around 12% and I am 151 lbs in weight and ripped.
I have a very high metabolism and always have a hard time gaining any weight/muscle what ever I do.

I have a mate who has done a few cycles in the past and after a lot of research I have started a Dbol cycle currently at 40mg per day and I am exactly 2 weeks in.
Noticing gains in my shoulders and pecs arms and back, but strangly not much increase in the amount of weight I can lift.

I didn't wanna ever do injections but im thinking fuk it if your gonna do something do it properly.

My mate is running a TNT mix twice weekly aas well as Dbol @ 30mg/day... and I was hoping for some advice as to whether I should start doing the same??

Any advice would be great.

Thanks

 

[synthazeus]

Good idea. Yes, definetly try start some kind of Testostrone injection as soon as possible. DBoL is a s test killer, and you won't keep a lot of it post cycle. You'll make a lot more leaner grains on som eking of Testostrone. I personally recommend test e, very cheap and effective. What does your diet look like? Are you running an Ai? What are you doing for pct?

 

[synthazeus]

Sorry didn't clarify, you won't keep a lot of GAINs post cycle.

 

[jtmdell]

What is your diet like? Are you eating enough?

 

[treeguy]

I would estimate that I am getting around 4000 cals per day,

mea1 1, 2 poached eggs and brown toast glass of fruit juice with wheat grass
meal 2 2 - 3 scoops of muscle and size gainer = up to 950 cals and 75 grms protein
meal 2 chicken sandwichs or pasta/ brown rice and chicken
few bits inbetween like crisps etc as working outside all day
Then usually have a shake again in the afternoon usually 2 scoops

Then when I get home I usually have a light snack and maybe another shake
Then wife cooks a nice meal such as chicken with vegetables and potatos etc.

Then usually a snack in the evening like a fruit and nut bar etc or maybe a fruit pastry.

How long should I use a test cycle for condsidering im already 2 weeks into a dbol 40mg/day one.

Cheers

 

[Stackinplates]

Bravo cut out all those shakes man there's no reason for three shakes a day

 

[Stackinplates]

Bro*

 

[Stackinplates]

Bro you're not going to gain anything with that meal plan when you're trying to game there should never be a light snack anywhere in the meal plan

And I don't care for shakes says it has 950 cal you're much rather put on size using a meal that has 950 cals

Try eating 2 cups of oatmeal a cup and a half egg whites with two whole eggs and throw some fruit in there and tell me if that doesn't fill you up better than that damn shake

Shakes are a joke when putting on size unless ur utilizing it post workout or waking up in the middle of the night to get some slow digesting protein

 

[treeguy]

Could you please give me an idea of a useable diet plan that doesn't involve meticulously counting out stuff into boxes for each day.

 

[treeguy]

Currently cooking up a large Turkey breast with brown rice and peas that im gonna eat for lunch tomorrow and afternoon snack tomorrow at work along with a can of tuna that I will eat straight out of the tin if im peckish