Need experienced advice on cycle and post cycle

[Lee1977]

Been running Sus 250 at 500mg a week for 8 weeks. Going into a Deca/Test cycle next week. I want to keep my dosage relatively safe to avoid Deca's gyno sides. Would 300mg of each a week give good enough gains and is it a safe dosage?

I lift 4 times a week and cardio on off days. Clean diet and supplements aside from my gear.

I appreciate any help.

Thanks

 

[dylangemelli]

Been running Sus 250 at 500mg a week for 8 weeks. Going into a Deca/Test cycle next week. I want to keep my dosage relatively safe to avoid Deca's gyno sides. Would 300mg of each a week give good enough gains and is it a safe dosage?

I lift 4 times a week and cardio on off days. Clean diet and supplements aside from my gear.

I appreciate any help.

Thanks

please post stats so that we can provide you the help that you most definitely are going to need...

 

[Essie]

Read here >> http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...d-paid-account-use-site-come-read-649306.html
And then post up all requirements before we'll be able to assist you.

 

[Lee1977]

Ok, I read and understand the rules. What "requirements" do I need to post?

 

[dylangemelli]

Ok, I read and understand the rules. What "requirements" do I need to post?

AGE, height, weight, body fat...

 

[Lee1977]

My stats didn't post earlier, sorry.

34
215lbs
6'1"
BMI 18% (as of 3 weeks ago. Prob lower now)

 

[dylangemelli]

Been running Sus 250 at 500mg a week for 8 weeks. Going into a Deca/Test cycle next week. I want to keep my dosage relatively safe to avoid Deca's gyno sides. Would 300mg of each a week give good enough gains and is it a safe dosage?

I lift 4 times a week and cardio on off days. Clean diet and supplements aside from my gear.

I appreciate any help.

Thanks

okay, so im not sure im reading this right... you HAVE been running sus for 8 weeks and are going to be starting deca NOW? is that correct? also, decas sides are progesterone and limp dick related bro... your going to need plenty of things on hand to run deca... either caber or prami, you should be running hcg or hcgenerate and you need to have an ai on hand... aromasin or arimidex...

 

[gymjunkie09]

Been running Sus 250 at 500mg a week for 8 weeks. Going into a Deca/Test cycle next week. I want to keep my dosage relatively safe to avoid Deca's gyno sides. Would 300mg of each a week give good enough gains and is it a safe dosage?

I lift 4 times a week and cardio on off days. Clean diet and supplements aside from my gear.

I appreciate any help.

Thanks

you're not going into a cycle you've been on one for 8 weeks and adding deca at this point is a terrible idea, run NPP 100mg eod for six weeks and the test out to week 15 and have all the above mentioned on hand ......start pct week 18 with post cycle/unleashed combo, forma and clomid 25mg ed

 

[Judo Tom]

i wouldnt add the deca at this point because it is obvious that you need to do some research on how to run these compounds.

 

[Essie]

How many cycles have you ran before? Also, like both guys up top of my post said ... do not add Deca to your cycle. Before you should ever even THINK of running Deca, you HAVE to have Aromasin/Arimedex, Caber/Prami hcg and HCGenerate already in stock ... prior to even ordering your gear. Deca is not your friend Bro ... if you don't use it correctly, it'll mess you up properly and I personally don't think you have enough experience for running a Deca cycle. If you feel like adding anything to your cycle, follow Junkie's advice, but nothing else, not now.

 

[Lee1977]

Thanks. I dont know where to procure everything mentioned. Can you please point me in the right direction?
I was worried about adding Deca and I'm glad I came and asked some questions.

Great information.

 

[Lee1977]

I've run 4 cycles in 2 years. I was told that a deca/test stack was a good lean building stack. Availability of gear has limited me to what types of cycles I could run. Mostly, I've run test based cycles. I've never done PCT strictly because I never had access to Clomid, Nolva, etc... I wanted real information from other people who were seriously training and not just going through the motions expecting results. Which is the majority of the people I train with. If I cannot acquire exactly what I need for PCT, what is a good alternative that is easy to purchase?

Also, I finished my sus yesterday. I haven't begun the deca/test yet. My other question is, should I hold off on continuing with gear and go to a PCT. Then, how long do I wait before beginning another cycle? I can ditch the Deca and just go with straight test to the end like Junkie suggested. NPP is not available to me. I've been running 500mg of sus. How much test to run until week 15 if I go with Junkie's suggestion?

My gain on the last 8 weeks have been 14lbs and -8% BMI.

Keep in mind bros, I'm not an expert. That's why I'm seeking advice and guidance.

Many thanks.

 

[Lee1977]

I went to needtobuildmuscle.com and looked for the unleashed/post combo. They were out of stock. I purchased the Forged PCT.

 

[dylangemelli]

fuck bro, i mean whats done is done but how in the fuck did you ever run two test cycles an no pct? i would have to think that you have done some serious damage to yourself internally... have you ever had any bloodwork done?

you need a strong pct no matter what you decide to do...

you need to run clomid 25/25/25/25 you can get unleashed at protein factory is ntbm is sold out... you have forged, also add forma stanzol... im really worried about your situation bro... there's a good chance you've caused a good amount of damage to yourself...

 

[RickRock13]

Actually no PCT was pretty common back in the day, and there are plenty of big names from that era like Arnold and Lou Ferrigno. That is certainly not ideal, but even without PCT you can recover.....it just takes longer

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Been running Sus 250 at 500mg a week for 8 weeks. Going into a Deca/Test cycle next week. I want to keep my dosage relatively safe to avoid Deca's gyno sides. Would 300mg of each a week give good enough gains and is it a safe dosage?

I lift 4 times a week and cardio on off days. Clean diet and supplements aside from my gear.

I appreciate any help.

Thanks

WHAT you doing cut it! Ten weeks

Save deca/test for next cycle! Take 14-15 18 even better weeks off post up we'll help you with deca and test

 

[Lee1977]

Advice taken.

I'm starting my PCT as soon as it arrives. I don't know where to get Clomid so I'll stick to the Forged. I also have AHD and Solid from GNC that's been sitting in my med cabinet for about 2 weeks. My friend left it and doesn't want it. Thoughts on that stack for PCT?

I didn't know about post cycle anything a few years ago. I was led by impulse and just dove in. I've had blood work done very recently prior to a procedure and all my levels were normal including testosterone.

Past cycles never exceeded 250mg of test a week and didn't go for more than 10 weeks.

This last cycle was the largest per week dosage I've taken at 500mg of sus.

I can't thank all of you enough and I will post again once I'm done with my PCT.

Thanks to all.

 

[dylangemelli]

Advice taken.

I'm starting my PCT as soon as it arrives. I don't know where to get Clomid so I'll stick to the Forged. I also have AHD and Solid from GNC that's been sitting in my med cabinet for about 2 weeks. My friend left it and doesn't want it. Thoughts on that stack for PCT?

I didn't know about post cycle anything a few years ago. I was led by impulse and just dove in. I've had blood work done very recently prior to a procedure and all my levels were normal including testosterone.

Past cycles never exceeded 250mg of test a week and didn't go for more than 10 weeks.

This last cycle was the largest per week dosage I've taken at 500mg of sus.

I can't thank all of you enough and I will post again once I'm done with my PCT.

Thanks to all.

get clomid at chemicalneed.com

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[Lee1977]

Thanks Dylan. I appreciate it.

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks Dylan. I appreciate it.

anytime bro