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thoopes

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I am new on here and I just need some advise from anyone that can help. I am 27 yrs, 5'10", 182lbs and about 15%BF. About 1 1/2 yrs ago I weighed 230 lbs and began working out religiously 4-5 a week and have not missed more than 4 days in a row since. I have been taking mostly Nitric Oxide products and thermogenics as supplements as well as eating properly with the protein, carbs and essential fatty acids.

For the past 4-5 months I have not noticed the gains that I have been working hard for and recently I talked to my buddy and he told me about test 200 and how it has worked for him. I have never contemplated steroids but I am at that point of almost giving up and going back to the BEER!

My goals are pretty simple. I am looking to put on size without alot of water retention. I would like to stay around 190-195 lbs and lower my body fat to around 8-10.

I have been reading alot about EQ, Test, Decca, and Winny and I am just wondering what you guys would recommend for me to take.

Thanks for the help.
 
thoopes said:
I am new on here and I just need some advise from anyone that can help. I am 27 yrs, 5'10", 182lbs and about 15%BF. About 1 1/2 yrs ago I weighed 230 lbs and began working out religiously 4-5 a week and have not missed more than 4 days in a row since. I have been taking mostly Nitric Oxide products and thermogenics as supplements as well as eating properly with the protein, carbs and essential fatty acids.

For the past 4-5 months I have not noticed the gains that I have been working hard for and recently I talked to my buddy and he told me about test 200 and how it has worked for him. I have never contemplated steroids but I am at that point of almost giving up and going back to the BEER!

My goals are pretty simple. I am looking to put on size without alot of water retention. I would like to stay around 190-195 lbs and lower my body fat to around 8-10.

I have been reading alot about EQ, Test, Decca, and Winny and I am just wondering what you guys would recommend for me to take.

Thanks for the help.

The general rule for a first cycle is test e at 250-500 for 10 weeks and in your case I would say test e at 250 milligrams for 10-12 weeks. it will help you get some solid workouts without holding onto too much water and help recovery, etc. FYI, make sure you read up on PCT (post cycle therapy) or you won't hold on to the gains you make on your cycle. There is a PCT forum on elite and the stickies explian it very well.
 
Don't blow the year and a half you have trained. I had gotten to the point you are now and know how you feel. I agree with the test info above. Another route you can try is a simple deca cycle. 300mg a week for 10 weeks. If you are afraid of loosing your drive add 200mg of test with it and you will be fine. This cycle is for the most sides free and should give you nice gains for a start. As stated above, don't forget the PCT. Good luck and stick with it.
 
wayneboard1 said:
The general rule for a first cycle is test e at 250-500 for 10 weeks and in your case I would say test e at 250 milligrams for 10-12 weeks. it will help you get some solid workouts without holding onto too much water and help recovery, etc. FYI, make sure you read up on PCT (post cycle therapy) or you won't hold on to the gains you make on your cycle. There is a PCT forum on elite and the stickies explian it very well.

What he said!
 
test bro 250-500mg a week. you can stack with deca or eq if you want but why not see what gains you can get off one compound and how it affects your body
 
Test @ 400-500 mgs. for 10 wks is the usual starter. The reason for running it by itself is so you can see how your body reacts to it so when you do add in another compound, you can pinpoint where your sides are coming from. Test is the usual base to most cycles, so start with it. Use something like nolvadex or arimdex throughout to help keep the water off, and gyno away. You can use a long ester like cypionate, enanthate or sustanon, taken in 2 shots per week like 250 mgs. every Monday and then another 250 mgs every Thursday. Start your pct (post cycle therapy) 2 wks after your last shot by taking clomid for 3 wks.
 
I wouldn't waste my time with such a low dose of test...even for a first cycle. If you want good gains go for a solid proven cycle of test and EQ with a dbol kickstart

Go with
Dbol 35-40mg/ed 1-4
Test Enth 500mg/ew 1-12
EQ 400mg/ew 1-12

Sides will be minimal. Have you PCT lined up prior to starting your cycle and eat like an animal during cycle...
 
well i agree most of them will work. but for a 1st cycle most anything will work.

But dont see anything wrong with trying a light cycle 1st time out. kinda like a worm up.
 
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