Need a more cost effective cycle!!

[musclehealth]

My cycle...I want to modify my cycle to make it more cost effective... I wna stick with the dbol and the test tho. Give me some options. Being poor in college sucks!!!!


Week 1: Dbol 30mg day(3 times 10mg), Test 1000mg.(twice a week
500mg)
Week 2: Dbol 30mg day(3 times 10mg), Test 500mg.(twice a week
250mg)
Week 3: Dbol 30mg day(3 times 10mg), Test 500mg.(twice a week
250mg)
Week 4: Dbol 30mg day(3 times 10mg), Test 500mg.(twice a week
250mg)
HCG: 500IU ed (7-10 days long), Nolva 20mg ED (7-10 days
long)
Week 5: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
Week 6: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
Week 7: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
Week 8: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
week 9: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
Week 10:Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
week 11: off...
week 12: 1000 IU HCG 3x week. 20mg nolva ED
week 13: 1000 IU HCG 3x week. 20mg nolva ED
Week 14: 1000 IU HCG 3x week. 20mg nolva ED
Week 15: 20mg nolva ED
week 16: 20mg nolva ED
week 17: 20mg nolva ED

It sucks because I spent so much tie building the perfect cycle!!!! Damit

 

[Makavelli]

My cycle...I want to modify my cycle to make it more cost effective... I wna stick with the dbol and the test tho. Give me some options. Being poor in college sucks!!!!


Week 1: Dbol 30mg day(3 times 10mg), Test 1000mg.(twice a week
500mg)
Week 2: Dbol 30mg day(3 times 10mg), Test 500mg.(twice a week
250mg)
Week 3: Dbol 30mg day(3 times 10mg), Test 500mg.(twice a week
250mg)
Week 4: Dbol 30mg day(3 times 10mg), Test 500mg.(twice a week
250mg)
HCG: 500IU ed (7-10 days long), Nolva 20mg ED (7-10 days
long)
Week 5: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
Week 6: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
Week 7: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
Week 8: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
week 9: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
Week 10:Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
week 11: off...
week 12: 1000 IU HCG 3x week. 20mg nolva ED
week 13: 1000 IU HCG 3x week. 20mg nolva ED
Week 14: 1000 IU HCG 3x week. 20mg nolva ED
Week 15: 20mg nolva ED
week 16: 20mg nolva ED
week 17: 20mg nolva ED

It sucks because I spent so much tie building the perfect cycle!!!! Damit

So you started w/o having everything?

 

[swordfish151]

My cycle...I want to modify my cycle to make it more cost effective... I wna stick with the dbol and the test tho. Give me some options. Being poor in college sucks!!!!


Week 1: Dbol 30mg day(3 times 10mg), Test 1000mg.(twice a week
500mg)
Week 2: Dbol 30mg day(3 times 10mg), Test 500mg.(twice a week
250mg)
Week 3: Dbol 30mg day(3 times 10mg), Test 500mg.(twice a week
250mg)
Week 4: Dbol 30mg day(3 times 10mg), Test 500mg.(twice a week
250mg)
HCG: 500IU ed (7-10 days long), Nolva 20mg ED (7-10 days
long)
Week 5: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
Week 6: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
Week 7: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
Week 8: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
week 9: Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
Week 10:Test 500mg.(twice a week 250mg)
week 11: off...
week 12: 1000 IU HCG 3x week. 20mg nolva ED
week 13: 1000 IU HCG 3x week. 20mg nolva ED
Week 14: 1000 IU HCG 3x week. 20mg nolva ED
Week 15: 20mg nolva ED
week 16: 20mg nolva ED
week 17: 20mg nolva ED

It sucks because I spent so much tie building the perfect cycle!!!! Damit

Question? What is the purpose of starting your cycle off at 1000mgs of test the first week and then dropping it down to 500mgs for the rest of the cycle?

 

[tahoe2003]

I tought you use the same amount of test the whole cycle.

 

[BOOEY]

It's called frontloading ... not really necessary in this instance due to the dbol

 

[swordfish151]

It's called frontloading ... not really necessary in this instance due to the dbol

aaaaaahhhhh thanks booey!

 

[musclehealth]

It's called frontloading ... not really necessary in this instance due to the dbol

No....I did not start my cycle yet. I was calculating the costs and it was wayyyyyyy over what I expected. OK...no front loading then...ill drop it to 500 mg. what else could I do. That prob wont save me much $. any suggestions? I dont wna make this cycle so weak that its not worth it.

 

[swordfish151]

No....I did not start my cycle yet. I was calculating the costs and it was wayyyyyyy over what I expected. OK...no front loading then...ill drop it to 500 mg. what else could I do. That prob wont save me much $. any suggestions? I dont wna make this cycle so weak that its not worth it.

Everything looks intact...i would say drop the DBOL (if you want to save money) everything else you need...is this your first cycle?

 

[musclehealth]

Everything looks intact...i would say drop the DBOL (if you want to save money) everything else you need...is this your first cycle?

Ya...Its my firsy cycle. I was so pumped to have the dbol in the cycle tho. Ok...should I maybe only do like 2 weeks of dbol? Or maybe 4 weeks of less dbol.

 

[musclehealth]

Ya...Its my firsy cycle. I was so pumped to have the dbol in the cycle tho. Ok...should I maybe only do like 2 weeks of dbol? Or maybe 4 weeks of less dbol.

Thats not even including my protein, creatine, gluteamine, flax. Its expensive to be huge!!! Bit well worth it.

 

[swordfish151]

Ya...Its my firsy cycle. I was so pumped to have the dbol in the cycle tho. Ok...should I maybe only do like 2 weeks of dbol? Or maybe 4 weeks of less dbol.

If its COST your worried about i would drop to 250mgs of test a wk (yes i know..but you said cost is a matter) drop the DBOL and if this is your first cycle then the HCG is debatable....i could be wrong, but i have seen threads from vets recommending no HCG if your going with a low dose of test..but i could be wrong.

 

[help4john]

Use Test T400......you use half the amount of gear as Cyp or Ent plus it costs less. Has short acting esters so no need to frontload....just use 400mg EW. Glad you prepared your PCT and ancillaries first. I have read so many threads from those that did not order their supplies in advance and were left "holding the bag" and watching their gains go down the toilet.

 

[musclehealth]

Use Test T400......you use half the amount of gear as Cyp or Ent plus it costs less. Has short acting esters so no need to frontload....just use 400mg EW. Glad you prepared your PCT and ancillaries first. I have read so many threads from those that did not order their supplies in advance and were left "holding the bag" and watching their gains go down the toilet.

Na man. I plan everything. Im going to be putting together a binder with everything day 2 day throughout the cycle. Measurments every 3 days, weight every day, eating habits, pictures every week, cycle logs, journals etc...Its going to be the best cycle log ever on Elite fitness. Look forward to it.

 

[swordfish151]

Na man. I plan everything. Im going to be putting together a binder with everything day 2 day throughout the cycle. Measurments every 3 days, weight every day, eating habits, pictures every week, cycle logs, journals etc...Its going to be the best cycle log ever on Elite fitness. Look forward to it.

whats your stats now?

 

[musclehealth]

Na man. I plan everything. Im going to be putting together a binder with everything day 2 day throughout the cycle. Measurments every 3 days, weight every day, eating habits, pictures every week, cycle logs, journals etc...Its going to be the best cycle log ever on Elite fitness. Look forward to it.

I think I will just do 2 weeks of dbol then. I wna stick with the 500mg a week of test eth. I wna keep the hcg because its just worth it. Its cheap and why take the risks? You guys think of anything else?

 

[swordfish151]

I think I will just do 2 weeks of dbol then. I wna stick with the 500mg a week of test eth. I wna keep the hcg because its just worth it. Its cheap and why take the risks? You guys think of anything else? How about a price I am looking to pay. I am creating a video game where you buy steroids. I wna get prices that are relevent to actual prices. (wink, wink)

Cant post prices bro or ask about prices in relation to anything.

 

[sweed]

more cost effective? that cycle looks like it can't cost more than 400. test is cheap, dbol is cheap, nolva can be pricey. it sucks being in college (not takin classes right now), thats why i work 2 jobs, lol . gotta support the habit somehow

 

[BOOEY]

2 weeks of dbol won't be useful. Either un it for 4-5 or forget it.

If you want to get picky, HCG is not really necessary for a low-dose 10 weeker. I think a clomid/nolva pct would do just fine and you'll save a lot of dough that way.

 

[musclehealth]

2 weeks of dbol won't be useful. Either un it for 4-5 or forget it.

If you want to get picky, HCG is not really necessary for a low-dose 10 weeker. I think a clomid/nolva pct would do just fine and you'll save a lot of dough that way.

Are you guys sure the HCG would be ok to forget about for this cycle? That would be a huge load off my back. Not the $ but the extra 3 injects a week. Nolva clomid? Do you think it will do the job? I dont wna get bad sides. Depression etc...

 

[swordfish151]

Are you guys sure the HCG would be ok to forget about for this cycle? That would be a huge load off my back. Not the $ but the extra 3 injects a week. Nolva clomid? Do you think it will do the job? I dont wna get bad sides. Depression etc...

You just have to wiegh your options and your budget. Some say nolva would be fine as PCT alone in your cycle. If your worried about sides then being safe with the HCG is a must.

 

[Apexx]

That's already a very cheap cycle bro. If you're having trouble coming up with the $$$ for that, I would definitely hold off. Not to bash you, but if you can't afford a few hundred bucks for the gear, how are you going to be able to afford all of the food it's going to take on that cycle?

 

[musclehealth]

ok...if I drop the HCG then I can get the dbol in for 4 weeks. I would be able to afford it then. I just dont want gyno or pea sized nuts dudes! LOL. Im gona go 2 class right now. Ill be back in a few hours then will post more.

 

[swordfish151]

That's already a very cheap cycle bro. If you're having trouble coming up with the $$$ for that, I would definitely hold off. Not to bash you, but if you can't afford a few hundred bucks for the gear, how are you going to be able to afford all of the food it's going to take on that cycle?

I have to agree with apexx...thats almost exactly what i ordered and i didnt flintch twice about the cash because it wasnt that expensive...what is your diet going to look like while "on"? If cost was no issue then your cycle looks right..hcg/nolva.

 

[Judo Tom]

just run test only at 500mg front for 2 weeks if you want can

you will save money on ancillaries that way too..

use just nolva for 6 weeks for pct

if your spending too much on test then maybe look into synovex and heet aka methanol aka kits.. maybe its too expensive cause your buying the wrong gear..

 

[sherpa1]

Get Nolva powder, and make you own liquid. That will save you a good amount on nolva.

Also, what brand of test are you planning on running?


Sherpa

 

[shamrock11]

find some liquid nolva. It's good stuff and cheap. You can get by with just nolva or nolva and clomid. I know guys running more that you and some only PCT with nolva. I don't think you'll have any problems, but the HCG is nice if you can afford it. This cycle shouldn't be that expensive though. I figure no more than $400.

 

[musclehealth]

find some liquid nolva. It's good stuff and cheap. You can get by with just nolva or nolva and clomid. I know guys running more that you and some only PCT with nolva. I don't think you'll have any problems, but the HCG is nice if you can afford it. This cycle shouldn't be that expensive though. I figure no more than $400.

free unlimited food in college. I think it will be more then 400. Im gona get it anyways

 

[swordfish151]

free unlimited food in college. I think it will be more then 400. Im gona get it anyways

more then 400?????????

 

[slat1]

Here is what I would do:
1. 250mgs ew test wk 1-10, clomid pct
2. 500mgs ew test wk 1-10, hcg and clomid pct
I went from 200 to 220 on #1.
If you are going to run 500mgs for your first one use hcg... I will not cycle without it!
BTW... The two I listed are cheap as hell!

 

[HardHat87]

find a new source

 

[RADAR]

Are you guys sure the HCG would be ok to forget about for this cycle? That would be a huge load off my back. Not the $ but the extra 3 injects a week. Nolva clomid? Do you think it will do the job? I dont wna get bad sides. Depression etc...

Being this is your first cycle Clomid & nova should be sufficient.

RADAR

 

[ruggermu]

Dude I feel for ya. I'm a student too, and where I play Rugby I can't work. What seems cheap to most peoplecan be a stretch

 

[musclehealth]

Dude I feel for ya. I'm a student too, and where I play Rugby I can't work. What seems cheap to most peoplecan be a stretch

Ya bro. Its true. Its hard having $ in college. Im just gona go with the cycle but tune it down to 500mg first week. Ill just not wash my clothes for a month. (save $ doing laundry) LOL.

 

[Neo22]

Being this is your first cycle Clomid & nova dhould be sufficient.

RADAR

But he wants to make sure his nuts don't shrink.

 

[musclehealth]

But he wants to make sure his nuts don't shrink.

ya. Id rather pay more $ and have nuts 99% then save and have none!

when do you think my nuts will start 2 shrink? also...for the hcg. When I mix it I must keep it refigerated. I understand that....can i pre mix the whole thing and keep it refrigerated 5000iu?

 

[Guvna]

find a new source

.

 

[untamedgorilla]

No....I did not start my cycle yet. I was calculating the costs and it was wayyyyyyy over what I expected. OK...no front loading then...ill drop it to 500 mg. what else could I do. That prob wont save me much $. any suggestions? I dont wna make this cycle so weak that its not worth it.

get the cheapest test u can find. in my option, omnadren. i dont know what kinda deca ur taking so i cant tell u what 2 switch it out for but if ur taking human grade like yellow tops or normas switch to QV.

 

[musclehealth]

well....here is what I came up with...

2--test enanthate 250mg/10ml vial
2--dianabol (bulgarian bianabol)5mg tabs, 100tabs
6--nolvadex 20mg, 10 tabs (zeneca, greece)
4--clomid 50mg tabs, 12 tabs (greece)
3--hcg 5000iu (pregnyl, israel) vial/solvent

does that look right for my cycle? Consider the first week only 500mg not 1000. Decided not to frontload. Let me know.

 

[RADAR]

But he wants to make sure his nuts don't shrink.

He will get some shrinkage but it will be only temporary as clomid & nova will help in the recovery.

the old Pro's didn't have HGC to rely on,and they fared well.
RADAR

 

[soflaguy]

My cycle...I want to modify my cycle to make it more cost effective... I wna stick with the dbol and the test tho. Give me some options. Being poor in college sucks!!!!

It doesn't get much cheaper than test and dbol. That cycle you described shouldn't cost more than 1/2 what you stated (if it was Vet-grade Test like QV).

If money is really an issue you should consider a source that sells mexican vet gear. As for the ancillaries, you can get them from one of the online research companies.

Another option would to consider Fina kits, although not a good idea for a 1st cycle.

 

[musclehealth]

It doesn't get much cheaper than test and dbol. That cycle you described shouldn't cost more than 1/2 what you stated (if it was Vet-grade Test like QV).

If money is really an issue you should consider a source that sells mexican vet gear. As for the ancillaries, you can get them from one of the online research companies.

Another option would to consider Fina kits, although not a good idea for a 1st cycle.

sofla guy you got a PM.

 

[Guvna]

well....here is what I came up with...

2--test enanthate 250mg/10ml vial
2--dianabol (bulgarian bianabol)5mg tabs, 100tabs
6--nolvadex 20mg, 10 tabs (zeneca, greece)
4--clomid 50mg tabs, 12 tabs (greece)
3--hcg 5000iu (pregnyl, israel) vial/solvent

does that look right for my cycle? Consider the first week only 500mg not 1000. Decided not to frontload. Let me know.

I know who your source is. He isnt cheap. Get the clomid and nolva from a research site.

 

[nutsnack]

Thats not even including my protein, creatine, gluteamine, flax. Its expensive to be huge!!! Bit well worth it.

drop the creatine.. wont save u much money but if ure a penny pincher anything helps