n00bie here - Planned cycle, advice please.

[617ricky]

So I have a cycle planned out a few months down the road. I was planning on doing 10 wks of Test enanthate @ 500mg/wk, and 5 wks of Fina in the middle at 50mg/ED or EOD, not sure yet.

Now I wanna have all my bases covered:

propecia - already on it.
accutane - will be using a low dose during the cycle.
arimidex - planning on 0.5mg day (I'll have 40mg, so say 11.5 wks worth)

The thing I'm really thinking over is the clomid. I'm gonna have 2500mg, so say 50 50mg pills. Now I'm wondering if I should just take 25mg/day the whole 10 wk cycle, and then up it to 50mg/day for another 2 wks til it's gone - but I dunno if this is the best approach.

Would I be better off waiting til the cycle is over, and hitting it harder with the usual 300mg 1st day, 200mg 2nd day, 100mg for 1 wk, 50mg for 2-3 wks type thing? I wanna make sure I don't crash, and I'm not sure if it's better to do it like this, or just take a smaller dose the whole cycle so I never "shut down".

What do you guys think? And I also read about guys taking nolvadex post-cycle as well for a few wks w/ the clomid. Would this be necessary and/or beneficial for me? I mean, I'm gonna be taking the arimidex the whole time. But about the clomid - what do you guys think?

 

[FutureMD]

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[Cardinal Slin]

all bases covered would also mean something for prog sides of tren - dostinex or prami

Cycle itself at test and tren looks great - 50mgs daily prefered over 100mgs eod on tren as many including myself feel this lessens the severity of sides (sweating, insomnia and acne for me).

Maybe try winstrol with test or anavar with test for a first run - once you try tren, you never want to use anything else ever again and save the powerful thing for the 2nd, 3rd or 4th run. Results without tren on a first cycle will be solid in any case

 

[joe d]

if this is your first cycle i would leave out the tren and get some more pct products.

 

[617ricky]

if this is your first cycle i would leave out the tren and get some more pct products.

This isn't my 1st, I did a cycle about 4 yrs ago of test/deca/dbol, semi high doses [higher than what I plan on with this cycle], and I stretched it out to like 12 wks.. At the end I only had a couple wks worth of clomid, and I wouldn't say I "crashed", but I definitely cut down on my lifting. I was also dumb about the way I did it, I didn't lift long enough before I did it, I just kinda dove into it.. But I was able to handle it, and I definitely got solid results..

This time around, I've already been lifting/eating right for a few months, and I plan on doing the cycle in another few months after a solid 6 months of lifting. So basically, when I start the cycle, I'm gonna be at where I was when I ended my last cycle.

What do you recommend for more/other pct products?
And what about the other things related to tren sides?

I don't feel like 500mg test for 10wks, and 50mg/day tren for 5 wks is too crazy of a cycle. So do you guys think the 40mg arimidex and 2500mg clomid will be enough for me?

 

[digimon7068]

all bases covered would also mean something for prog sides of tren - dostinex or prami

Cycle itself at test and tren looks great - 50mgs daily prefered over 100mgs eod on tren as many including myself feel this lessens the severity of sides (sweating, insomnia and acne for me).

Maybe try winstrol with test or anavar with test for a first run - once you try tren, you never want to use anything else ever again and save the powerful thing for the 2nd, 3rd or 4th run. Results without tren on a first cycle will be solid in any case

funny. . .i didn't find that to be true. . .to each his own, i s'pose. . .

 

[617ricky]

How bout if I put it like this - 500mg/wk test @ 10 wks + 50mg/day tren @ 5 wks -- what is the best route to go for pct, and combating estrogen-related sides during the cycle? Could 40mg arimidex and 2500 clomid be enough?

 

[azul]

How bout if I put it like this - 500mg/wk test @ 10 wks + 50mg/day tren @ 5 wks -- what is the best route to go for pct, and combating estrogen-related sides during the cycle? Could 40mg arimidex and 2500 clomid be enough?

Some people like a little bit of arimidex, maybe 0.25-0.5 ED... but really, everybody's different. Some people swear by having high estrogen (and science proves it helps), but some people just get gyno, so you're better off using arimidex if you're prone to it.

Nolvadex won't reduce estrogen-related side-effects other than gyno. Arimidex, however, will. If you're not prone to gyno, don't worry about it. But do keep some nolvadex and arimidex ready in case you start getting gyno.

I'd do the tren at the beginning instead of the middle while you're still waiting for the test to kick in, but to each his own.

For PCT, get yourself some HCG, 20-40mg of nolva a day, and a very low dose of arimidex or letro to help your test levels get back up there. Make sure you eat well, and make sure you keep your calories up, too.

 

[617ricky]

I just did some more reading, and I like the sound of using hcg during the cycle. I see that 250iu 2x/wk would be enough to keep me from shutting down [hopefully], and then just take the clomid at the end.. Now I'd still plan on 0.5mg arimidex a day, and I'd have a little left over. But does this sound like it would work for my proposed cycle? Like I said I did a stronger longer cycle a few yrs ago, and I only took a little nolva during, and a little clomid at the end.. I didn't crash hard or anything, so I feel with a lower strength cycle, and adding some hcg and arimidex, I'd be much better off..

I see alot of sites selling hcg, around $40 for 5000iu which would be enough for 10 wks - but hopefully it's legit.. Are there any potential problems getting bunk hcg online? Can anyone give me any tips or anything? Thanks.

 

[azul]

I just did some more reading, and I like the sound of using hcg during the cycle. I see that 250iu 2x/wk would be enough to keep me from shutting down [hopefully], and then just take the clomid at the end.. Now I'd still plan on 0.5mg arimidex a day, and I'd have a little left over. But does this sound like it would work for my proposed cycle? Like I said I did a stronger longer cycle a few yrs ago, and I only took a little nolva during, and a little clomid at the end.. I didn't crash hard or anything, so I feel with a lower strength cycle, and adding some hcg and arimidex, I'd be much better off..

I see alot of sites selling hcg, around $40 for 5000iu which would be enough for 10 wks - but hopefully it's legit.. Are there any potential problems getting bunk hcg online? Can anyone give me any tips or anything? Thanks.

Just my opinion, but when it comes to this stuff, less is better. Try 0.25mg of arimidex a day (during the cycle), and if that works, why go higher? If it doesn't, double the dose and go from there.

Where'd you get that '250iu 2x/wk' number? I've been away from the game for a while, so I'm not 100% positive, but I'd use more.

Clomid for PCT is fine, too.