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MyoGenX Result Thread
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Anthony Roberts
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ItalianMuscle27 said:I will read it shortly.. Maybe you should have researched your formula for longer than 1 month on the internet, and have some humanstudies to back up claims.. Bloodwork would prove your theories without a doubt.. I still havent seen anything like that, just opinions from ghosts on the internet.. On the contrary your the one who is looking foolish, you are already changing forumula, as predicted by me..If you would have researched more you would have known zinc in high doses would upset peoples stomachs.. Maybe I should send sample to SRCS for testing, if thats ok with you?
I was the first person to say it was the Zinc causing the upset stomach. Clearly, I already had done the research to know that, right?
Oh...I forgot...I'm supposed to be taking advice from anonymous people on the internet who have never developed an original nutritional supplement. What was I thinking...please...continue to give me your well-thought-out advice...
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Send whatever you want to SRCS. Why would I care? I'm sure that Protein Factory is accurately dosing their products as required by the FDA. I'm not really sure what you are threatening(?) here...
Oh no...please...don't buy and then send my products to be tested at your own expense...anything but that...please have mercy...
Is that the reply you were expecting?
Big Rick Rock
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Are you guys talking about this product?
http://proteinfactory.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=829
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http://proteinfactory.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=829
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justinjones1963
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Big Rick Rock said:
Yes
Anthony Roberts said:
Sorry if I seem ignorant, but you would want it to increase base test levels wouldnt you? Why is this not the best way to measure things? What does it mean it increases test over control levels? Ive never ever heard something being measured that way..
Anthony Roberts said:
For someone who open admits he doesnt waste his time/breath on someone who bashes him or his products, you are spending an awful lot of time on me, how come??
I was being sarcastic about sending sample in.. but with your permsission, I would. My treat..
Correct me if im wrong, herbs in their purest forms like ephedra for example, are not approved by the FDA for a reason.. Most herbs to my understanding have to be mixed with other things(for example like your product, you added zinc/vitamin e).. Can fadogia be taken pure? Does the FDA approve this on the shelves just by itself?? Whats stopping a person like myself, from flying to Nigeria, buying fadogia by the ton, and coming back to USA to bottle for human consumption??
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Anthony Roberts
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ItalianMuscle27 said:
Apparently, the scientists who run the peer-reviewed medical journal where the study was published think that it's a valid way to measure things. You should take it up with them, and the hundreds (if not thousands) of scientists who feel that the study I based my product on is valid.
This is the part where I'll continue to pretend that your criticisms of the product come from you, and not someone else on this site who has repeatedly attacked me....and you continue to pretend to be coming up with them yourself.
You should contact the FDA and ask them about pure forms of herbs if that's a concern of yours. I'm not familiar with legal issues like that, and since I brought the product to a company who produces supplements, I can only say that I'm sure the're operating within the confines of the law, and that they have assured me that the Fadogia they put in the product is in the purest form currently available. I believe there may be laws on standardizing herbs, but I don't know what you're asking, exactly, or why it relates in the slightest here.
What's stopping someone from flying to Nigeria, etc, etc, etc...I have no idea...I don't care, either...it doesn't directly (or indirectly) relate to the efficacy of my product.
I have a couple of questions about the study.
1. The study is a little vague on whether the researchers used 18mg/kg of the actual stem or of the filtrate they derived from the stem. If the 18mg/kg number comes from the filtrate the dosage will be significantly different from consuming the stem by itself.
2. This may be picky, but isn't a two fold increase in test levels a 100 not a 200 percent increase. If my baseline levels are 2 ng/ml and increase to 3 ng/ml that is a 50% increase. 2 to 4 would be a 100% increase, and 2 to 6 would be a 200% increase
1. The study is a little vague on whether the researchers used 18mg/kg of the actual stem or of the filtrate they derived from the stem. If the 18mg/kg number comes from the filtrate the dosage will be significantly different from consuming the stem by itself.
2. This may be picky, but isn't a two fold increase in test levels a 100 not a 200 percent increase. If my baseline levels are 2 ng/ml and increase to 3 ng/ml that is a 50% increase. 2 to 4 would be a 100% increase, and 2 to 6 would be a 200% increase
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Anthony Roberts
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deepdish said:
Interesting first post....I'll look into your concerns and ask for amendments in ad-copy and such if it's deemed to be warranted.
justinjones1963
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deepdish said:
That is not being picky - it is being accurate and you are correct. Excellent observation - K to you.
Take simple numbers:
100 * 50% = 100 * .50 = 50 and then add that to the original 100
100 * 100% = 100 * 1.0 = 100 and then add that to the original 100 for 200%
And yes, 2 increased to 4 is a 100% increase, 2 increased to 6 is a 200% increase.
