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WalkingBeast

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Figured Id post this up to add to the training methods sticky. Since alot of people ask me how I train and what Ive gotten the best results off of. Its real simple to follow, and can be modified over time to fit your type of training. Ive added more sets and have changed the rep range considerably on compound lifts mainly, but the principles are still at the foundation of my routine. I went from 10" arms to 18 3/4" on this routine in 10 years of straight training. No drugs. Here it is:

12 sets minimum for smaller body parts (biceps,triceps,delts,chest)

15 sets minimum for larger body parts (back and legs)

4 sets each for: Rear delts, Forearms, Abs, Traps.

All sets within the 12-15 rep range. Heavy and to failure or very close to it.

Everything here can be customized to fit different needs. This is mainly a bodybuilding routine as Im sure there are better routines for pure strength training or strongman events. Real simple. As for the training split, thats all up to the lifter. Try to schedule your split in such a way that no body part interferes with the training of another. For example, you dont want to train triceps a day before your chest work. Itll effect your lifts on the presses. The same with biceps and back work. Try to arrange it into a 5-6 day split. As for exercises Ive gotten the best results from using mostly free weights. I like to usually do 3 sets per exercise and 4-5 different exercises depending on what Im working. But thats not really necessary aslong as you choose a good variety of exercises and get the work in. Here are my top choices for exercises:

Biceps: Preacher curls, Alternating dumbell curls, Standing EZ curl or Barbell curls, Various cable curls

Triceps: Skull crushers (on an incline bench, reduces elbow stress) , Rope pulldowns, V-bar pulldowns, Standing extentions

Chest: Flat barbell bench, Incline barbell bench, Incline dumbell flies, cable flies (Id reccomend 6 sets of flat bench and 6 of incline to start, with some flies thrown in to finish off chest)

Back: Dumbell rows, Lat pulldowns, Chin-ups, Barbell row,Seated Cable row, Deadlifts (Deadlifts gave me more lower back development and little upper back, so they are not completely necessary for bodybuilding in my opinion.)

Legs: Squats, leg presses(both for full leg work), leg extentions(for quads), leg curls,stiff leg deadlifts (for hamstrings)

Shoulders: Seated dumbell presses, Lateral dumbell raises,Front dumbell raises, Various machine presses

Abdominals: Sit-ups on a decline bench (preferrably with a weight on chest),
Kneeling rope crunches (Hook a rope to the top of a cable machine, kneel down with it,contract your abs and pull the rope so that your elbows hit the floor)

Rear delts: Reverse fly machine

Forearms: Wrist curls with a staight bar, Reverse curls, COC gripper work, Deadlifts as well

Calves: Seated calve raises, standing calve raises

As for diet. Try to eat atleast one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight. More if possible. If you weigh 160 eat 160 grams of protein for example. Keep your calories and carbs high if you have a small or skinny build. Its important to eat well above your maintenance calories each day as well. If you are already heavy try lower carbs and less calories but keep the protein the same. This is what has worked best for me. Let me know how it works out for everyone

Beast
 
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You should also post your diet WalkingBeast. I'm curious as to: 1)where one finds 180 grams of protein every day; and 2) how you manage to keep it down, specially on workout days.
 
Cookie Monger said:
Just reading it hurts. I'll have to work up to it, but I'll give it a shot.


It seems like alot at first and can be tough. But once you start doing it , it becomes routine. Its not always easy to get motivatedm but thats a whole other issue. You really dont have to work up to it, you should be able to do it now. You may want to use machines and keep the weight where you can handle all the volume. Be sure to give yourself some extra rest between sets if it becomes too much.
 
Cookie Monger said:
You should also post your diet WalkingBeast. I'm curious as to: 1)where one finds 180 grams of protein every day; and 2) how you manage to keep it down, specially on workout days.

I was going to do that, but had trouble starting new threads. Now it shouldnt be a problem. Maybe Ill start a diet journal. If I do itll be in the Diet forum. Will also inspire me to eat more. haha Ill post it. Youll see I dont eat too clean but I try to meet the protein requirements everyday atleast. We will see how consistent I am. My diet usually fluctuates all over the place so it should be interesting.
 
Do you really do 12-15 reps a set?

I always thought the best strength gains come from low rep work...I'm suprised to hear you do that with the numbers you put up.
 
Bonkme2 said:
Do you really do 12-15 reps a set?

I always thought the best strength gains come from low rep work...I'm suprised to hear you do that with the numbers you put up.

This is what I did for the majority of my gains, before I started getting obsessed with 1RM training. Within the last 2 years Ive started training more for strength and while I accomplished that pretty well, my size hasnt been increasing much. Now Im going back almost fully to my old routine, since Ive injured myself. Ill wait a little while and then go back to strength training again. The routine I was doing was a bodybuilding/strength training mix. The one I listed here is intended for bodybuilding, but strength will no doubt come with it too. I got alot stronger this way. Hope that helps
 
I could never get away with that many sets, I overtrain way too easily
 
Cookie Monger said:
You should also post your diet WalkingBeast. I'm curious as to: 1)where one finds 180 grams of protein every day; and 2) how you manage to keep it down, specially on workout days.

You should try eating 300+ prot and 800-1,000 carbs. It is exciting.

B True
 
Cookie Monger said:
Exactly how many cows is that? Where can you get so much food protein without overloading on shit?

LOL. I like that "overloading on shit" phrase.

Seriously though, that's really not so much. 300g of protein's only 1,200 kcal. Decent helpings of hamburger meat and steak fit the bill. From leaner sources, 10 (?) chicken breasts or so oughta do it.
 
guldukat said:
LOL. I like that "overloading on shit" phrase.

Seriously though, that's really not so much. 300g of protein's only 1,200 kcal. Decent helpings of hamburger meat and steak fit the bill. From leaner sources, 10 (?) chicken breasts or so oughta do it.


With some protein shakes throughout the day and a few good chunks of meat youll hit 300 pretty quickly.
 
WB-I strongly agree with you in two areas. First, It seems I have finally found another man that agrees on fully resting between sets. I always wondered how people can lift using short rest periods(1.5 min or less). On my compund lifts(bench, squats, etc...) I use at least 3min and on my other lifts I'll go between 2min and 1.5 min. I figure if your still real tight from your last set not resting fully will only hold you back on your following sets. Second, although I do incorporate deadlifts in some of my routines, they aren't a staple. I lift for bodybuilding purposes, and contrary to most here, I don't think they have to be a nessesity.
 
Cookie Monger said:
Exactly how many cows is that? Where can you get so much food protein without overloading on shit?

1 gallon or 3.8L of whole milk = 128 grams prot
1 dozen eggs = 72 grams
2 chicken breasts = 55 grams
8 oz ground beef = 50 grams (roughly)

Of course...there are things like cheese, prot shakes, cottage cheese, tuna, etc...

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
1 gallon or 3.8L of whole milk = 128 grams prot
1 dozen eggs = 72 grams
2 chicken breasts = 55 grams
8 oz ground beef = 50 grams (roughly)

Of course...there are things like cheese, prot shakes, cottage cheese, tuna, etc...

B True


It all adds up!!
 
tzan said:
WB-I strongly agree with you in two areas. First, It seems I have finally found another man that agrees on fully resting between sets. I always wondered how people can lift using short rest periods(1.5 min or less). On my compund lifts(bench, squats, etc...) I use at least 3min and on my other lifts I'll go between 2min and 1.5 min. I figure if your still real tight from your last set not resting fully will only hold you back on your following sets. Second, although I do incorporate deadlifts in some of my routines, they aren't a staple. I lift for bodybuilding purposes, and contrary to most here, I don't think they have to be a nessesity.


ThanX brother!! I have no problem getting through a heavy workout, only resting long enough for my partner to finish a set, and then going again immediately. I can maintain this pace. When I train like this it doesnt seem to do anything for me though. I get the best results waiting until Im ready for the next set. On one rep max deadlifts this could be 20 minutes, similiar to maxing on bench. As for strength gains, I brought my deadlift up 105lbs in 14 months training like this. (405-510). Often exceeding 6 hours training back. I push myself until nothing is left. Deadlifts only seem to thicken the waist and lower back measurement for me, which I like. But my upper back measurement and just about everything else has been at a plateau for the last 2 years.. I was deadlifting every week with my back work and always maxing. My strength increased alot, but deadlifts didnt give me much else but waist thickness, maybe some trap thickness, but not sure how to measure that. Traps have always been my best body part anyway. I think heavy rowing, and chin-ups, and pulldowns are plenty for the upper back. This is how I gained most of my back size and Im going back to the old routine again now ( due to the injury). I will most likely be deadlifting much less frequently for the time being.
 
onerepmaximum said:
That's not the hard part, just getting protein. The trick is when you want to get 180-200 grams of protein and stay under 1600 calories.


Definately not my dilemma! haha Checkout my diet journal in the diet forum and youll see what I mean! Looking shredded and thick in the avatar brother!
 
b fold the truth said:
1 gallon or 3.8L of whole milk = 128 grams prot
1 dozen eggs = 72 grams
2 chicken breasts = 55 grams
8 oz ground beef = 50 grams (roughly)

Of course...there are things like cheese, prot shakes, cottage cheese, tuna, etc...

B True
Maaann, that is alot of food. Not to mention we have to drink alot of water on top of that. No room for cookies.
 
b fold the truth said:
1 gallon or 3.8L of whole milk = 128 grams prot
1 dozen eggs = 72 grams
2 chicken breasts = 55 grams
8 oz ground beef = 50 grams (roughly)

Of course...there are things like cheese, prot shakes, cottage cheese, tuna, etc...

B True

Do you really drink that much milk a day? That would be the death of me...


Don't forget peanut butter...a few ANPB sandwiches are an easy protein fix in a hurry.
 
This looks interesting! I think I might give it a try after I recover from the past several months of 5x5. Going for higher reps/lower weight right now.
 
lucidBlue said:
This looks interesting! I think I might give it a try after I recover from the past several months of 5x5. Going for higher reps/lower weight right now.


ThanX!! I think youll see good results on the program. Let me know how it works out for you if you decide to give it a try!
 
WalkingBeast said:
Definately not my dilemma! haha Checkout my diet journal in the diet forum and youll see what I mean! Looking shredded and thick in the avatar brother!
Thanks brutha, you're looking pretty damn powerhouse yourself. I'm looking forward to getting swole again. After my show on Sat, I got one more in April, then I think it's back to the drawing board for another year. I may hold off and compete again in July though. Thanks again though, maing.
 
onerepmaximum said:
Thanks brutha, you're looking pretty damn powerhouse yourself. I'm looking forward to getting swole again. After my show on Sat, I got one more in April, then I think it's back to the drawing board for another year. I may hold off and compete again in July though. Thanks again though, maing.

Anytime brother!! And thanX!! Im just trying to get back to the condition of those pics now, after this injury. Arms are about the same, but chest (especially) and back took a big hit. Keep doing what your doing brother cuz it obviously works! Train Or Fuckin Die!! -Beast
 
Well...i guess the only way to see if it works is to try it....and im gonna....lol beast you know how you say "train or fucking die!"...well thats probally gonna be the case wit me on monday....either ill keep training or but most likely ill prolly die cause this is gonna kick my ass....but im gonna love every minute of it!! :devil:
 
JeSt3r said:
Well...i guess the only way to see if it works is to try it....and im gonna....lol beast you know how you say "train or fucking die!"...well thats probally gonna be the case wit me on monday....either ill keep training or but most likely ill prolly die cause this is gonna kick my ass....but im gonna love every minute of it!! :devil:


:FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: Youll adjust!!! And just when you do itll be time to up the weights and intensity yet again!! I think youll like the results however. Train Or Fuckin Die!!!!!
 
WalkingBeast said:
:FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: Youll adjust!!! And just when you do itll be time to up the weights and intensity yet again!! I think youll like the results however. Train Or Fuckin Die!!!!!


yea..just call me MiniBea...wait no...MicroBeast...actually...forget that idea...gonna be a couple years before i hit MicroBeast =/
 
you're kind of swinging towards the HST principles with the amount of reps/sets you're recommending, correct?
 
kraze said:
you're kind of swinging towards the HST principles with the amount of reps/sets you're recommending, correct?


Ill have to check out HST and get back to you on that. Not sure what it consists of. Sorry I missed your IM. Ill be online later, just going to the gym.
 
Sushi (fish and egg) is great for protein. One of my favorite pwo meals. Lots of carbs, lots of protein, EFAs.

Too bad it's so damn pricey.
 
WB, i just gotta ask how you are able to do so much work in a given day? I thought at one point in my life i had awesome recovery abilities. I trained 6 days a week, 12-25 sets a bodypart, to failure, like you advocate. Then i noticed i was always shaking, never felt rested and wasn't getting stronger. Sure i had a good build, 6'0, 205 lbs @ 7% bodyfat, but man was i weak and worn down. So i then thought, if i'm doing all this work as hard as i can and still i'm not seeing the results i desire, what am i doing wrong? Overtraining in its truest form was what was wrong. Not to put down your routine, as it obviously works for you, and thats all that matters for the individual. But i'm just wondering how a classic hardgainer, or maybe even an average-gainer can hope to gain well on something so draining for them and their recuperative abilities. So in closing, i'm just putting out an objective view, something to either be used or thrown away. Your lifts by the way, are something to be taken seriously.
 
Singleton said:
Sushi (fish and egg) is great for protein. One of my favorite pwo meals. Lots of carbs, lots of protein, EFAs.

Too bad it's so damn pricey.

Id go on an all sushi diet if it wasnt so expensive. I used to go to a sushi buffet occasionally until my stomache was about to explode, but even that was 20$ for one sitting. Im not sure how high the protein is, but I think it would add up if enough is eaten.Maybe throw in some protein shakes too.
 
TENPACK said:
WB, i just gotta ask how you are able to do so much work in a given day? I thought at one point in my life i had awesome recovery abilities. I trained 6 days a week, 12-25 sets a bodypart, to failure, like you advocate. Then i noticed i was always shaking, never felt rested and wasn't getting stronger. Sure i had a good build, 6'0, 205 lbs @ 7% bodyfat, but man was i weak and worn down. So i then thought, if i'm doing all this work as hard as i can and still i'm not seeing the results i desire, what am i doing wrong? Overtraining in its truest form was what was wrong. Not to put down your routine, as it obviously works for you, and thats all that matters for the individual. But i'm just wondering how a classic hardgainer, or maybe even an average-gainer can hope to gain well on something so draining for them and their recuperative abilities. So in closing, i'm just putting out an objective view, something to either be used or thrown away. Your lifts by the way, are something to be taken seriously.


ThanX for the feeback and compliments brother!! I think one of the reasons I can do so much in a given day has alot to do with forcing it over the years. Theres been many times I didnt want to finish my routines, or that Ive felt quite torn up, but would just finish myself off. Sometimes, mentally, Im not into it at all. Those days its the hardest. As soon as I started lifting at 14 and 105-115lbs I was on this routine. I started it with mostly machines however. It didnt take me long to rack all the machines at 140lbs and then I started more freeweights. I always did skull crushers, upright rows, dumbell shrugs, dumbell curls, ez curl or barbell curls, and possibly a few other free weight movements, since the beginning. If I had to label someone as a "hardgainer" , Id definately say that fits my description. Its been 9 straight years of training just to get to where I am now. I lose weight rapidly if I miss a few meals. And gains are very slow and gradual. I made quick gains in the beginning, but that only lasted a few years. My size gains are at a crawl now. I beleive if it was able to work for me, it should work for just about anyone. I was all bone. And my gains have been overall slow, but they do add up. Ive modified the routine alot now also, as you can see in my journal. I stick to the basic 12-15 set rule as a minimum only. On back day I can hit 30 sets. My reps are all over the place now however. I get the entire spectrum of rep ranges now. I would reccomend for trainers still new to lifting, that they keep it simple so they can stick to it. 12-15 sets at 12-15 reps worked real well for me, and I definately made the bulk of my gains off of the routine. As for more advanced lifters, I think its good to experiment with different rep ranges while keeping the volume the same. Of course there are so many ways to train, and so many different body types, I think it all comes down to experimentation. The routine can be intimidating to those not used to the workload, but your body should adjust over time. Sounds like you adjusted to it, but at the same time felt overly taxed. I would try to split your muscle groups up, in a way that allows precise recovery for each. Nothing is exact, but Id try to learn the amount of days needed to recover each body part (when the soreness is gone) and then incorporate that into your routine. Its never good to hit the bench when your triceps or still sore. I hardly ever feel overtrained, and I think it is because of the way I split everything up. I might feel a little worn out and tired on some days, but its never something I cant just break through. It can be tough to get psyched when I feel like this, but I always find a way. Usually a little "Extreme Ripped Force" and some metal, with the headphones on will get me out of that state. I try to take 2 rest days every week also. Its all about finding ways to adapt to the routine, and not dreading it too much. It helps to find exercises you enjoy, to keep you motivated. I have a few of them. Deadlifts and variations, flat bench and incline are my highlights of the week. I enjoy those the most. When Im not deadlifting, Im thinking about it all the time. Thats one of the reasons Im in the gym so long on those days. Not because its necessary but because I need the vent. Ive always been accused of overtraining, but the ones whove accused me have never improved. I absorb as much as I can, but when it comes down to it I burn my own path. I think it gets to a point where you have to heed the signals your body gives you and learn from what works for you. As much as Id like to believe the routine would work for everyone, it may not. Whatever it is that works for you, dont change it until the progress stops. Unless you just want to add to it. Ive made lots of additions to my routine over the years. Hope that helps!!
 
Hey Beast, I know from your previous threads that 12-15 reps is what you find gives you most size, but I think I might add here that most people find the 8-10 rep range best, and personally I think that if someone is looking for size they should do a month or two of 8-10 reps and then a month or two of 12-15 reps... + a few weeks of 5-7 reps in between those two alternates... Just my thoughts on this.
 
I know for a fact that routine would quickly lead to overtraining for me. I know because I used to do that many sets and train that many days per week back in high school. Did not work for me at all.

But, if you're someone that has never done that much then you might as well try it because your body may like that kind of volume.

Just recently I have found that I can handle a greater training frequency and volume then I previously thought I could once I stopped training to failure ala Bill Pearl style sorta.

I think that a person should do as much volume of work as they can up to and before they wear themselves out. Know your limits.

I never thought I was a hardgainer back in highschool and previous training years because I always had a solid bone and muscle structure and made rapid progress when I would actually train for a few months until I'd hit a serious overtraining wall.

As of late, I have found that it was training to intense momentary failure on all or most of my sets that was depleting me. Some people like me do not respond well to being thrashed every workout. Yet, if I moderate my efforts a certain amount I make constant, consistent rapid progress.

Experiment and do what works best for YOU. But, if you've never done that kind of volume before then you might as well try it. KILL THAT SHIT!
 
WalkingBeast said:
Figured Id post this up to add to the training methods sticky. Since alot of people ask me how I train and what Ive gotten the best results off of. Its real simple to follow, and can be modified over time to fit your type of training. Ive added more sets and have changed the rep range considerably on compound lifts mainly, but the principles are still at the foundation of my routine. I went from 10" arms to 18 1/2" on this routine in 9 1/2 years of straight training. No drugs. Here it is:

12 sets minimum for smaller body parts (biceps,triceps,delts,chest)

15 sets minimum for larger body parts (back and legs)

4 sets each for: Rear delts, Forearms, Abs, Traps.

All sets within the 12-15 rep range. Heavy and to failure or very close to it.

Everything here can be customized to fit different needs. This is mainly a bodybuilding routine as Im sure there are better routines for pure strength training or strongman events. Real simple. As for the training split, thats all up to the lifter. Try to schedule your split in such a way that no body part interferes with the training of another. For example, you dont want to train triceps a day before your chest work. Itll effect your lifts on the presses. The same with biceps and back work. Try to arrange it into a 5-6 day split. As for exercises Ive gotten the best results from using mostly free weights. I like to usually do 3 sets per exercise and 4-5 different exercises depending on what Im working. But thats not really necessary aslong as you choose a good variety of exercises and get the work in. Here are my top choices for exercises:

Biceps: Preacher curls, Alternating dumbell curls, Standing EZ curl or Barbell curls, Various cable curls

Triceps: Skull crushers (on an incline bench, reduces elbow stress) , Rope pulldowns, V-bar pulldowns, Standing extentions

Chest: Flat barbell bench, Incline barbell bench, Incline dumbell flies, cable flies (Id reccomend 6 sets of flat bench and 6 of incline to start, with some flies thrown in to finish off chest)

Back: Dumbell rows, Lat pulldowns, Chin-ups, Barbell row,Seated Cable row, Deadlifts (Deadlifts gave me more lower back development and little upper back, so they are not completely necessary for bodybuilding in my opinion.)

Legs: Squats, leg presses(both for full leg work), leg extentions(for quads), leg curls,stiff leg deadlifts (for hamstrings)

Shoulders: Seated dumbell presses, Lateral dumbell raises, Various machine presses

Abdominals: Sit-ups on a decline bench (preferrably with a weight on chest),
Kneeling rope crunches (Hook a rope to the top of a cable machine, kneel down with it,contract your abs and pull the rope so that your elbows hit the floor)

Rear delts: Reverse fly machine

Forearms: Wrist curls with a staight bar, Reverse curls, COC gripper work, Deadlifts as well

Calves: Seated calve raises, standing calve raises

As for diet. Try to eat atleast one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight. More if possible. If you weigh 160 eat 160 grams of protein for example. Keep your calories and carbs high if you have a small or skinny build. Its important to eat well above your maintenance calories each day as well. If you are already heavy try lower carbs and less calories but keep the protein the same. This is what has worked best for me. Let me know how it works out for everyone

Beast

Beast I love your quote, I am new to the board also and I was looking at your bench routine. Do you start with a heavy first press ( reference 395x1) and then work down from there? If so why?

get back at me,
howbig
 
Allon said:
Hey Beast, I know from your previous threads that 12-15 reps is what you find gives you most size, but I think I might add here that most people find the 8-10 rep range best, and personally I think that if someone is looking for size they should do a month or two of 8-10 reps and then a month or two of 12-15 reps... + a few weeks of 5-7 reps in between those two alternates... Just my thoughts on this.


Makes sense. Experimentation is really the only way to find what you respond best too. For me, it usually takes alot longer then 2 months to see if something is working, but not always. The last 6 months Ive made some of my best gains in a long time. My routine has changed alot over the years though. I get the whole spectrum of rep ranges in my routines now. This was just the basic foundation I started with. I couldnt really reccomend my current routine to anyone. Its very personalized, and something Ive built up to over the last almost 10 years training. I can reccomend ideas from it, but I wouldnt put someone on the routine. Aside from that its very hard to determine my exact routine. It changes often and isnt set in stone. Its different every week in many areas. Theres not much of a set order, and I may decide to switch things up. Certain core lifts stay in the same order, but anything else is up for manipulation. My set and rep schemes are also based on feel, and what I feel I can hit PR's on for a given day. I wont know until Im in the gym. Keep KILLING that shit!!
 
GhettoStudMuffin said:
I know for a fact that routine would quickly lead to overtraining for me. I know because I used to do that many sets and train that many days per week back in high school. Did not work for me at all.

But, if you're someone that has never done that much then you might as well try it because your body may like that kind of volume.

Just recently I have found that I can handle a greater training frequency and volume then I previously thought I could once I stopped training to failure ala Bill Pearl style sorta.

I think that a person should do as much volume of work as they can up to and before they wear themselves out. Know your limits.

I never thought I was a hardgainer back in highschool and previous training years because I always had a solid bone and muscle structure and made rapid progress when I would actually train for a few months until I'd hit a serious overtraining wall.

As of late, I have found that it was training to intense momentary failure on all or most of my sets that was depleting me. Some people like me do not respond well to being thrashed every workout. Yet, if I moderate my efforts a certain amount I make constant, consistent rapid progress.

Experiment and do what works best for YOU. But, if you've never done that kind of volume before then you might as well try it. KILL THAT SHIT!

Looks like you found what works for you!! Thats all that matters in the end. One reason I put my routine out there is because I believe there is ALOT of lifters out there who call themselves "hardgainers" and make infinite excuses, but when it comes down to it they dont put in the work. If they are not making gains on thier low volume/high intensity routines, or whatever they are doing, Id reccomend they increase the workload and FUCKING KILL THAT SHIT! I did this from the beginning, and I was as boney as is possible. My gains were not quick, but painfully slow. It fucking adds up, but it takes determination,persistence, hard work, and a strong fucking drive to KILL THAT SHIT! When I see the term hardgainer it just sounds like bullshit to me.
I couldve easily used that as an excuse but instead I kept KILLING THAT SHIT each and everyday regardless of circumstances. Not to boast, but it can be done. I can see you KILL THAT SHIT!! Not directed towards you in anyway. Just a rant. When it comes down to it, trying a routine for a few months aint shit! Give it a fucking year and then tell me youve made no gains! If someone is a so called hardgainer they should not be bitching about making NO gains. Someone who makes NO gains is probabally dead. Its fucking hard, but deal with that shit! It ALL adds up! A 1/4 inch on the arms every year fucking adds up! Persistence,patience,HARD TRAINING! TRAIN OR FUCKIN DIE!!
 
howbig? said:
Beast I love your quote, I am new to the board also and I was looking at your bench routine. Do you start with a heavy first press ( reference 395x1) and then work down from there? If so why?

get back at me,
howbig


Welcome to the boards brother!! ThanX for the kind words! No!! haha I dont start like that. Thats just a listing of my best lifts, in no particular order. If I started with 395 Id tear my chest most likely. Depending on the focus of my training the routine can vary. It can sound a little complicated but its not too hard to understand. Ill try to explain. I go through cycles in my flat bench training for example. Sometimes with the inclines too, but Ill use flat bench as the example. I train chest twice a week. Thursday is flat benches and extras, and Sunday is inclines with extras. Here is how the cycles work. There are Rep PR cycles and One Rep Max cycles. Lets say Im in the Rep cycle, and my focus is reps. (these cycles can last anywhere from weeks to months) On the rep day, I will start out the routine as a free-for-all, going for whatever rep PR's I feel I can get. Once Ive exhausted all possibilities for a rep PR, Ill move onto the one rep max for a few sets, then usually Ill go back down and rep out with the lighter weights. Heres one of my Rep Cycle routines:

Flat Bench: (Just the flat bench portion)

135x20
225x12
275x8 (first three sets are warm-ups)
315x9.5 (2 rep PR)
335x5 (1.25 rep PR)
385 (1/2 way up only)
385 (fail)
385 (1/2 way up only)
350x2.5 (Small PR of some type)
300x6
225x25 (1 rep PR)
225x24.75 (Just short of lockout)

You can see the reps took priority in this routine first, then I threw in some one rep maxing. I almost always like to do both one rep maxing and rep work on each day. The cycling just determines which one Ill focus on and exhaust first. The One Rep Max cycle follows the same outline, but I do the reps at the end of the routine. All my sets aside from my warm-ups are to failure on chest day,excluding speed bench. Heres an example of a One Rep Max routine:

Flat Bench: (flat bench portion only)

135x20
225x12
275x5
315x1
335x2
375x1 (All Warm-ups)
395x1 (5Lb PR, Closing in on 405!)
400 (fail)
405 (fail)
400 (fail)
365x1 (Was going for 2,but fatigued quickly today)
315x6.5
225x23.75

You can see the warm-ups are extended, and after 275 they are all one and two rep warm-ups. Sometimes Ill do more repetition sets at the end, but not always. Im currently focusing on One Rep Max for a while. KEEP KILLING THAT SHIT!
 
I agree with you about the hardgainer mentality. I FUCKING hate that word. Just because you start out skinny doesn't make you a hardgainer. Just because progress seems slow doesn't make a person a hardgainer. I despise that word. Stewart McRobert or whatever his name is that created the hardgainer website is an assclown imo. No wonder he never got yoked, not enough food and too much complaining and training to failure with minimal sets. Did he ever even try not training to failure and use more volume?

Anyone that uses the word Hardgainer to describe themselves has already limited their potential, BIG TIME.

I pump myself up constantly. I tell myself I'm a natural born Hercules. That I'm a real life Superman and other shit every day multiple times. The more I say it to myself the more I believe it and the less I limit myself.

It's really too bad that many people limit themselves right from the get go and set limits on what they can achieve. Michael Jordan, Arnold, Bruce Lee and many others people who have achieved great things would never have become what they became and did what they did if they thought negative thoughts all the time.

KILL THAT SHIT BRO'S!
 
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