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My Thoughts on Yohimburn....(condensed)

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about 2 weeks I'll be starting r-ALA and yohimburn, as well as superclen at night. My plan is to take in all my carbs post-workout, then deplete my glycogen stores with the r-ALA and evening cardio session. The superclen (which makes me tired as hell) I'll take early evening and again before bed. Then the morning after that I'll use the yohimburn again and do cardio first thing in the a.m. before eating. Pretty much just diet and training manipulation through timing.
 
My girlfriend went on this stuff to get rid of some fat around her hips and ass. She finally let me try some on my pecs, and I actually noticed a marked difference in only three days. So, I'm going to start my dieting cycle in a few days -- I will submit before and after pix, too. There seem to be so few photos, only anecdotal. Btw -- what do I get for the pix? :p
 
ulter said:
Pics = Cool tank or Sleeveless T, your choice.
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Ill be wanting a tank please. I have "before" pics and its been about 3 weeks and Im really impressed. The fat I had around the sides of my chest has nearly dissapeared and so has the lower stomach area. This product does work, at least for me. Anyways after a few more weeks of using the product Ill take some "after" pictures. Later
 
thanks bro

for the comments. "rj420 You're a stud bro, that may be the best plan I have seen anyone write with under 50 posts for a cutting program. You might consider NYC on your off clen weeks and/or just to keep you going while on the clen."

I am writing an ariticle for Gear Newsletter at Mr. X's request where I'll go into more specifics of it. So far I have seen some nice results, but haven't started using the superclen yet, just ECA's, r-ALA, and yohimburn. Yeah, I know I have few posts here, but I'm a mod at mesomorph.net.
 
not

yet. I didn't take any before pics, so I'll have to do that. I will definitely take pics later this fall when I'm on cycle, and I've decided to save the clen for that. Gonna make a serious transformation.
 
;)
Week 3 of using Yohimburn..
I posted earlier that the results started happening all at once about week two. Unfortunately still no major difference on the chest, (maybe it's mostly small scale Gyno).

On the other hand the handles keep dissappearing!!

I have also started using some on the lower abs and judging by a noticable amount of water retention, I think it is going to work well. (The retention is what preceeded a big loss on the handles during my off days, I'm using 5 on 2 off.)

My advice to anyone who is using without results, is to move it around a bit... If it doesn't work well on the Pecs it may do wonders for the handles or lower abs.

Aside from the obvious places can anyone give me a list of sites predisposed to female fat disposition on males?

Thanks for a great product and Bump for the help.

Dimitri T.O.
 
NO OFFENSE INTENDED

Has anyone noticed that this seems to be a pump up product
there ismore mods and pro bodybuilders on this yohimbine stuff then on any juice post. Why is this, sorry but it just seems like there is people here that will benefit directly or indirectly from the sale of yohimbine

if im wrong i appologize in advance




I KNOW BUSINESS IS BUSINESS
 
any interest in yohimburn other than that of ulter (own's AF store) and macro :p (developed the platform for yohimburn.. and continues to do so).. is due to personal results (or in those few cases.. lack of results.. almost without exception, people who used for puffy nips..)
 
Pro body builders have been using yohimbine hcl to lose body fat for years. So yes there are quite a few that know about this. As far as mods go I think that the ones using it are doing so becauses they are just as familiar with it as the pro body builders. Dan Duchaine discovered the effectiveness of yohimbine several years ago and sold a similar product until his death a few years back. There are very few people here who don't know Dan's work so it's no surprise the mods use it either. It's been on this board for a year and is now sold on five continents so it's not a big secret that it works.
 
yup yup

what macro said. I have zero vested interest in how much money AF makes... truth be told, the stuff works... IF USED PROPERLY. When you see a post that it did nothing for someone, it is usually because they either didn't diet and do cardio correctly, or they don't have A2 estro deposits.

Hey macro, you visit mesomorph anymore. I was reading a post over there from a while ago that you had written on. Just curious.
 
hey

Ulter, I never noticed that you live in Orlando... if thats where you really live. So do I bro. You train in the area?
 
THANKS FOR NOT CHEWING MY HEAD OFF FOR POSTING MY OPINION


im gonna give it a try and then maybe or hopefully i will be able to add the positive posts on this gel......

how many tubes are needed
 
Re: yup yup

rj420 said:
what macro said. I have zero vested interest in how much money AF makes... truth be told, the stuff works... IF USED PROPERLY. When you see a post that it did nothing for someone, it is usually because they either didn't diet and do cardio correctly, or they don't have A2 estro deposits.

Hey macro, you visit mesomorph anymore. I was reading a post over there from a while ago that you had written on. Just curious.
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do visit.. just infrequently..
 
during a cycle of using yohimbine topically, i assume the most important thing to watch is fat intake and calorie intake? Carbs shouldnt matter as much, or am i wrong? Just want to know so i can try to plan what to eat while im on it.
 
luto199 said:
during a cycle of using yohimbine topically, i assume the most important thing to watch is fat intake and calorie intake? Carbs shouldnt matter as much, or am i wrong? Just want to know so i can try to plan what to eat while im on it.
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yohimbine can cause an increase in insulin secretion, so fat and calorie intake are most important.. but you want to minimize high glycemic carbs, except post workout.. fruits are always good since they cause little insulin response and replenish liver glycogen which is important for maintaining thyroid levels.

this is one of the reason that r-ala (and ala to a lesser extent may improve results).. though in younger insulin sensitive users this is less of an issue.. where secretion is low anyways..
 
here's a kinda unrelated question
Yuo mentioned after workout you need High GI carbs, and i am about to start a stack of creatine, dextrose, and protien. Now if I have a post workout drink with all those supplements, do i also need to eat something? I'd assume yes, but what kind of food would be best? I shouldn't need any more carbs right, So i guess protien would be the best? Thanks you guys.
 
SeekerOfKnowledge said:
Anyone have any opinions on the Chrysin Deluxe at mass quantities in conjunction with yburn
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chrysin is not cost effective and even if it were it is not all that effective. Just get some femara or arimidex, they are widely available and pretty much legal as they are being sold.
 
nvr2shredded said:


chrysin is not cost effective and even if it were it is not all that effective. Just get some femara or arimidex, they are widely available and pretty much legal as they are being sold.
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Are these OTC or perscription
 
SeekerOfKnowledge said:
what type of doc do i need to see and what would be the reason I would request these?
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any GP can prescribe.. though ideally an endocrinologist...

low sex drive
pectoral feminization
(female fat pattern)
low test levels
sluggishness (E enhances thyroid uptake)

of course the benefit will only be exceptional if you have higher than normal estrogen levels (though as bodyfat rises so does aromatic conversion)

there are the "research" options .. which makes purchase "legal" and does not require a "doctors note"

:p
 
well its been more than 3 weeks since i stopped using Yohimburn. NO RESULTS whatsoever. When I first started using it I figured it was holding water, but now 3 weeks later, I know thats not the case.

Anyway, while I was using it, I would do 5 days on, 2 days off. I used it on my chest (1/2 pippette per side). I did cardio 4x a week and I was also dieting.

I guess I will eventually try this stuff again, but I have serious doubts now
 
Rick,

you were using for puffy nipples, chest fat or both? it was never really clear from your posts. though you did seem focused on the puffy nips..

if puffy nips..try the bromocriptine.. and if you use yohimburn.. use a lot less 1/16 per nipple is enough.. if prolactin is the main culprit (which in your case it seems to be)

but there may have been some other problems with your results..

you began bulking with EQ, TEST and most notably DBOL just after ending your yohimburn use.. so even if water retention was the problem with your yohimburn results.. with dbol + T ..you are going to bloat up even with the 1mg EOD of DEX..

you did also use yohimburn for only 2wk.. you were likely using more than necessary.. 1/4 per pec is usually more than enough unless VERY STRICT DIET.. (considering your water retention.. you MAY, though not for sure, have been using too much.. not detrimental.. but wasteful)

if you could post diet.. ie calories and what your maintance calories are apprx..

understand that you had bulking plans to coincide with your travel, but bulking right after such a short use .. with an aromatic based cycle.. really does cloud results..

but still think that you might want to try the bromocriptine.. it cant hurt and it is also good for dieting.. a number of people have found that the combination of bromo and yohimburn are quite effective (particularly with respect to appetite suppression)..

with respect to your results... given the "test parameters".... as well as the post "test" protocol.. perhaps a bit hasty on judgement :p

btw- with dbol 1mg dex ED is a good idea.. particularly since you seem to have high aromatic conversion issues..
 
macrophage69alpha said:
Rick,

you were using for puffy nipples, chest fat or both? it was never really clear from your posts. though you did seem focused on the puffy nips..

if puffy nips..try the bromocriptine.. and if you use yohimburn.. use a lot less 1/16 per nipple is enough.. if prolactin is the main culprit (which in your case it seems to be)

but there may have been some other problems with your results..

you began bulking with EQ, TEST and most notably DBOL just after ending your yohimburn use.. so even if water retention was the problem with your yohimburn results.. with dbol + T ..you are going to bloat up even with the 1mg EOD of DEX..

you did also use yohimburn for only 2wk.. you were likely using more than necessary.. 1/4 per pec is usually more than enough unless VERY STRICT DIET.. (considering your water retention.. you MAY, though not for sure, have been using too much.. not detrimental.. but wasteful)

if you could post diet.. ie calories and what your maintance calories are apprx..

understand that you had bulking plans to coincide with your travel, but bulking right after such a short use .. with an aromatic based cycle.. really does cloud results..

but still think that you might want to try the bromocriptine.. it cant hurt and it is also good for dieting.. a number of people have found that the combination of bromo and yohimburn are quite effective (particularly with respect to appetite suppression)..

with respect to your results... given the "test parameters".... as well as the post "test" protocol.. perhaps a bit hasty on judgement :p

btw- with dbol 1mg dex ED is a good idea.. particularly since you seem to have high aromatic conversion issues..
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Wow...you really did your research...on me ;) :p Anyway, I was using the yohimburn to get rid of small fat deposits on my chest. I have puffy nipples too, but thats not my biggest concern..the fat is. The reason I havent given up on yohimburn is the exactly what you stated above. I should have started with the yohimburn earlier and continued its use before going on my bulking cycle. The only thing that concerned me is taht I didnt even notice the slightest of results. Oh well, like I said before, I will try the stuff again in the future. Thanks for your help macrophage69alpha.
 
just a couple of questions

where do i go to order it? how much does it cost? how much do i need? does the fat stay off? thanks guys

these dicussion boards are the best:D :D
 
Okay I just got my yohimburn today and need some info. I'm gonna be using it on my face and nipples, thats it but im also in the middle of bulking... never used steroids so im pretty sure that both the puffy face and nipples are due to high estrogen in those areas. I stay lean pretty much everywhere else when i bulk, except for those 2 areas, anyways im wondering should i wait til im dieting to use the yohimburn? or will it work good while bulking and maybe adding some cardio.
 
strangebrew said:
Okay I just got my yohimburn today and need some info. I'm gonna be using it on my face and nipples, thats it but im also in the middle of bulking... never used steroids so im pretty sure that both the puffy face and nipples are due to high estrogen in those areas. I stay lean pretty much everywhere else when i bulk, except for those 2 areas, anyways im wondering should i wait til im dieting to use the yohimburn? or will it work good while bulking and maybe adding some cardio.
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if you want to use a SMALL amount while bulking, particularly with the added cardio it may be of genuine help..

maybe an 1/8 pippette per side and a 1/16 per nipple..(someone worked out how many "drops" that was.. will try to find it)

then use higher doses during your cutting phase (it is for most people much more effective during cutting)
 
I'm currently finishing off my bottle of the "other stuff" that i was using on my abs. It's hard to say if it worked. I was at about 15% BF so visually it was hard to see a difference. I have work and school now which takes up ALOT of time and was screwing up my workout schedule since my gym at school isnt 24hrs so i haven't been using it everyday like i should. One thing i did notice that was promising was that my weight dropped to 198, during the week i used it everyday and worked out my normal routine without interruption. This is odd because my weight usually fluctuates b/t 203 and 208 and its been that way for awhile, even when on r-ala and ALA. So i decided i'm going to buy some more, but this time im trying yohimburn. Only thing is, i want to use it on my arms this time. I would like to loose alot of the baby fat thats still there and become more defined. I want to know what the general concencus is for using this on your arms. Thanks bros!
 
pittbull2 said:
I'm fixing to order some , how much does one person need to order to be effective ?
2 or 3 1 lbders lol:p
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really depends on usage.. how much and how long..

if you plan on dieting strictly (and/or jacking up cardio) for more than 4wk then get 2 bottles.. otherwise just get one and see how you respond.. you can always get another.
 
I just bought 2 bottles.

They should last 4 weeks or so.......

However, on a different note, the last Yohimburn bottle I tried
was definately UNDER normal quality.

The solution was not homogenous like all the rest I've used, it was speckled with tiny bits of(looked like little chunks of
Yoh). And yes, I did shake the living daylights out of the bottle but it still stayed the same.

I was a bit dissapointed. I had to shelve it.

Fonz
 
So Macro. One question:

What is the definition of an 'application'? I started on the DF today and use 1/4 pipette on each nipple area.

Was this correct, or should I use 1/4 across both pecs?

Also, I plan on focusing on chest only right now to see results but would also like to do lower tummy. Can I wait to focus on that area only after I am done with pecs or should I work on them both simulatanously?

Looking forward to results on my drooping pecs that are otherwise lean and muscular.

Time
 
time4akshun said:
So Macro. One question:

What is the definition of an 'application'? I started on the DF today and use 1/4 pipette on each nipple area.

Was this correct, or should I use 1/4 across both pecs?

Also, I plan on focusing on chest only right now to see results but would also like to do lower tummy. Can I wait to focus on that area only after I am done with pecs or should I work on them both simulatanously?

Looking forward to results on my drooping pecs that are otherwise lean and muscular.

Time
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how much is too much is dependent on calorie deficit.. with a low deficit 1/4 for the whole chest.. with low to moderate calorie deficit perhaps 1/4 per side. moderate too high deficit.. chest1/3 for entire chest and 1/4 to 1/2 for lower abs.. etc.. though it really depends on you individually..

btw- are you using for puffy nips or just fatty chest?
 
most people use too much in relation to calorie deficit.. unless you are dieting "hard" or have greatly increase activity level.. keep dosage on the low end (you can try the higher dosages to see how you respond to them..)
 
SO far sogood Ulter and Macro. i was very suspicious of this but I have seen some lessening of those fatty areas on my chest. (Hang around the nipples...fatty tissue only).

At the end of week 2 today with 5 on 2 off. Thinking about going for 3 weeks total and take 2 off for the water reducting to see where I end up.

Will post pics as this will decide whether I go in for a secong gynecomastia treatment or not for the 'hang' that I have.

My initial thought is that I will still need to go in, but this will get me closer to my goal. We'll see after week 5.

Time
 
As I posted on AF...

Well, my girlfriend has been using YohimburnDF for a few days now and I must say she is EXTREMELY pleased with the results so far. She has been doing the whole low-carb dieting/cardio thing for the past several months and had gotten to the point where fat-loss seemed to be at a stand still. The Yohimburn really jump-started the fat-loss again as well as her motivation and enthusiasm. I was going to post progress measurements but she doesn't want to be measured again just yet, thinking this is just too good to be true, not wanting to find that nothing has changed -- but it has. Even I notice a difference in her thighs, arms and waist. There's a dress she wants to wear for Christmas that was a size too small last week... it fits her now and looks really good. One of the girls she works with and sees once a week at meetings asked her what she was doing since it looks like she had "gotten a facelift"... Needless to say, my gf has been on Cloud 9 and and is enjoying every bit of the experience.
Naturally somewhat skeptical since I've been around since "smilax" was hot, I hesitated on getting a bottle, but I told her I would get myself one on our next re-order...
I'll post again in about a week for those who are interested.
 
Radical Ice said:
As I posted on AF...

Well, my girlfriend has been using YohimburnDF for a few days now and I must say she is EXTREMELY pleased with the results so far. She has been doing the whole low-carb dieting/cardio thing for the past several months and had gotten to the point where fat-loss seemed to be at a stand still. The Yohimburn really jump-started the fat-loss again as well as her motivation and enthusiasm. I was going to post progress measurements but she doesn't want to be measured again just yet, thinking this is just too good to be true, not wanting to find that nothing has changed -- but it has. Even I notice a difference in her thighs, arms and waist. There's a dress she wants to wear for Christmas that was a size too small last week... it fits her now and looks really good. One of the girls she works with and sees once a week at meetings asked her what she was doing since it looks like she had "gotten a facelift"... Needless to say, my gf has been on Cloud 9 and and is enjoying every bit of the experience.
Naturally somewhat skeptical since I've been around since "smilax" was hot, I hesitated on getting a bottle, but I told her I would get myself one on our next re-order...
I'll post again in about a week for those who are interested.
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:D
 
Macro.....does the DF "completely eliminate" or simply "reduce" the water-holding?

I held an unfavorable amount of water on the Yohimburn. I discontinued use after only 3 weeks. (5 days on/2 off).

If the DF only reduces water-holding, is it a significant reduction or mild-moderate.

Thanx
 
From the emails and posts I have read that seems to vary from one person to the next. The majority of those who had water with the original formula find that it eliminates the problem for them. But I have seen a couple posts where the user still retained a little water but it was reduced, according to the post, in half.
 
I've been using Yohimburn DF for about 3 weeks now and ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!!!! I use it 45 minutes prior to either morning cardio or weight training. My abs have never looked this good, and my face is so much leaner, it's just amazing. I use about 6 drops on each cheek, and maybe another 2-3 drops under my chin. Also use 1/2 pipette on my abs, and 1/4 per love handle.

Bump for a great product!!!!!!! I don't know what I'd do without my Yohimburn and r-ALA!!!! :p :p :p
 
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I finally broke down and purchased some yohimburn today. Going to do a two-week cutter of yohimburn, r-ala, nyc, dnp, and mass cardio.
 
from the way its worked on my face with just minimal use before cardio. I am really looking forward to using it fully during my cutting cycle, I may even start early. maybe :)
 
Will this stuff work on gyno that was progesterone induced not from test but from tren??I have fat deposits right underneath my nipples and only there, can it work on that or what?
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
Mad Max said:
Will this stuff work on gyno that was progesterone induced not from test but from tren??I have fat deposits right underneath my nipples and only there, can it work on that or what?
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if its gyno.. NO..

if its fat and/or puffyness... maybe.. though in your case you might want to try prolactin suppression first, or at least concurrently.

do you have other chest fat? or other estrogen fat in general?
 
will it work for people who are overweight ? my cousin wants to purchase some coz of the effects he's seen with my usage :D
 
thanks :D

hes running a low-cal / low-carb diet right now. he's looking into putting some into his pecs(for the chest), arms(biceps/triceps) and face.

how many drops should he use for each body part stated and how does he cycle them per body part ? he's around 5"7 185pounds (overweight)

he's gonna use it with R-ala/NYC. he just came of ECA around 2 weeks ago.

he's looking into 1800-2000 calories per day.
 
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Joey_Zazza said:
I just ordered 2 supplys. This stuff better work.

or.............:destroy:


Bro, i used this crap and I am already lean, so i would have saw results had there been any...and there were NONE...most of the yohimbine in the solution was in chunks that were WAY TOO BIG to pass through the skin. total wastes of money to me...

mike
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mikecsa said:


Bro, i used this crap and I am already lean, so i would have saw results had there been any...and there were NONE...most of the yohimbine in the solution was in chunks that were WAY TOO BIG to pass through the skin. total wastes of money to me...

mike
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mike,
the product that you used it october of 2001 is not comparable to even the original yohimburn (and certainly not the new DF) that is now sold. The formulation has changed significantly and the yohimbine now used is 100% jet micronized( a particle size that is so fine that the loose powder will rub into your skin, without abrasion). while the product you used and the one now share a common origin, they are not the same creature.

However, that being said, not everyone has high A2 density and if you used for puffy nipples success rates are 60-80%.
cardio?
where did you use it?
when?
diet?
2oz trial size or 4oz?
etc?

though it is true that part of the reason for less than amazing results was lack of refinement of the final product at that time, particularly the lack of a consistent micronization, which is no longer the case. Though, even then, it should have produced at least decent to good results. so any input form you can help to determine why it did not work or was not efficious.
 
macrophage69alpha said:

cardio?
where did you use it?
when?
diet?
2oz trial size or 4oz?
etc?


mac,not sure what oz i got, but i stay around 8-10% , so i can always tell when BF drops, specially if it was to drop in the area i was puttin the yohim, which was my lower abs and outer, lower pecs( which is my hardest area to get striated,unless winny is involved:), but i saw no results...) Im sure cardio and diet play major roles in the suspected results from this product, but i think people use yohim then diet and excercise correctly to justify the use of the product and they see results cause they worked hard not neccessarily cause of the product...but thats just my opinion, what do i know, but hopefully the new product is better...


oh yea, and to answer the when?. i used it while in season and i was runnin around 12miles a week so i know cardio wasnt a factor...

mike
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"...i think people use yohim then diet and excercise correctly to justify the use of the product and they see results cause they worked hard not neccessarily cause of the product..."

The people using the DF now are getting great results even without the diet and cardio we recommend. It does work much better with it though.

"...i used it while in season and i was runnin around 12miles a week so i know cardio wasnt a factor... "

You ran 12 miles a week and didn't lose body fat? The only thing I can think of is that your diet needs to be fixed. I don't know anyone who does that much cardio and doesn't lose body fat. With or without fat burners.
 
ulter said:
You ran 12 miles a week and didn't lose body fat? The only thing I can think of is that your diet needs to be fixed. I don't know anyone who does that much cardio and doesn't lose body fat. With or without fat burners. [/B]
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haha, i didnt say i didnt lose BF as a whole over my entire body...the areas i hit with the yohim were the areas i have always had probs with until i hit HGH. 12 miles a week was our norm, and my diet was on par, but just because a person does a shitload of cardio and eats right doesnt mean they have the genetics to get to 5% BF, just look at major league pitchers, they run more than i do and most that I know eat a healthy diet, but they still are not what i would call lean...and even some of my fellow teammates are the same way. Cardio and diet are powerfull tools, but nothing makes up for genetics,well cept maybe growth...

mike
 
Major league pitchers eat a healthy diet? I take it you've never seen them at the buffet after a game.

Dial tone, I can die knowing I have seen every username possible now. That's a riot. Is there a story behind that name?

Yohimburn will help you lose fat if you are 22% or 10%. But the 10% guys can obviously see it better. If I were you I would lose the next 5-7% with diet and cardio before trying to use fat burners.

Mikecsa bought one of the early versions of Yohimburn and wasn't satisfied and once or twice every couple months he likes to post that it didn't work for him. I think this is his 9th post about it in a year. In the beginning it didn't work for everyone because some of the ingredients were not refined enough. I can tell you that there are over 5000 people it DID work for and that number keeps growing very quickly now that the new DF is out. The DF kicks fat butt.
 
XzRzX said:
thanks :D

hes running a low-cal / low-carb diet right now. he's looking into putting some into his pecs(for the chest), arms(biceps/triceps) and face.

how many drops should he use for each body part stated and how does he cycle them per body part ? he's around 5"7 185pounds (overweight)

he's gonna use it with R-ala/NYC. he just came of ECA around 2 weeks ago.

he's looking into 1800-2000 calories per day.
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help pls :p
 
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