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My second but yet Hardcore cycle!!!!!!!!
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Dude I was also a collegiate center and if your juicing while playing your an idiot. 1. I assume your a walk on because no scholorship player would risk the money for a chance to gain muscle. 2. your not gonna gain much muscle during the season because you cant lift like you should due to practice, games, ect. and your body is constantly being broke down. 3. If you get your ass kicked natural you will get your ass kicked while juicing. I dont care what anyone says, it doesnt matter how much shit your taking, on the football field everyone is equall. there is no substitute for natural ability.
I waited until I was finished playing football to try juice, which was last december. I have done 2 cycles and I did find out that if I did juice while playing it wouldnt have made any difference at all. I was already benching 450 and squatting 700when I was 19 years old. once you can bench 400 and squat 600, any more strength really isnt gonna ammount to a hill of beans on the field.
I am a washout now, my athletic career is over and I have discovered one thing, football doesnt mean shit. I was an all-american my senior year and you know what that has done for me? Absolutely dick! Focus on the fact that (I assume you are) you are going to school for free and that you cant play ball forever. If you wanna bodybuild of powerlift after ball then hit the juice.
I waited until I was finished playing football to try juice, which was last december. I have done 2 cycles and I did find out that if I did juice while playing it wouldnt have made any difference at all. I was already benching 450 and squatting 700when I was 19 years old. once you can bench 400 and squat 600, any more strength really isnt gonna ammount to a hill of beans on the field.
I am a washout now, my athletic career is over and I have discovered one thing, football doesnt mean shit. I was an all-american my senior year and you know what that has done for me? Absolutely dick! Focus on the fact that (I assume you are) you are going to school for free and that you cant play ball forever. If you wanna bodybuild of powerlift after ball then hit the juice.
Hardcore there is ways around that. If your getting you gear from where I think you are then they know ways around that also.
For some of the others. When have you evered seen a ripped O or D linemen?? Never. We get as big as we can, fat and muslce, to be harder to move around and stronger to move the fat people around. Granted there is a line to draw, but everyone knows their limits in the game.
Hard....you in a division 1 school or playing some juco somewhere?? Just wondering what level you was at. Also what year. I am atteneding a camp in late November and early December to get on the list for playing in Europe. If you don't make the draft if going that rought, then this is the next best thing.
For some of the others. When have you evered seen a ripped O or D linemen?? Never. We get as big as we can, fat and muslce, to be harder to move around and stronger to move the fat people around. Granted there is a line to draw, but everyone knows their limits in the game.
Hard....you in a division 1 school or playing some juco somewhere?? Just wondering what level you was at. Also what year. I am atteneding a camp in late November and early December to get on the list for playing in Europe. If you don't make the draft if going that rought, then this is the next best thing.
1000mg test on a second cycle + tons of other shit that's asking for trouble chop it in half be careful man!!Hardcore20 said:
I'm not going to get into the whether you should or shouldn't debate, its your decision. I don't think your dosages are that excessive considering your size and training experience. I would make a few changes.
I don't really like sust at the end of a cycle since it takes so long to clear. Cyp, Ethanate, or prop would be better for the end.
Also in week 1 I would shoot 1500 mg. sust on M-W-F or M-T-W (500 mg. per day), to get levels up more quickly.
I would tweak the dosages of deca and eq a bit so you are using less deca alongside the fina. It looks like you may have deca in there for the water in the joints, but I would prefer 600 mg. for weeks 1-4 and then either drop it or continue at 100-200 mg. for the duration.
For weeks 1-4, you could either do say 200 mg. of eg. or just drop it during that time, and use a bit more in weeks 5-10. Fina is fine.
I would also consider stopping the test (especially if sust), deca, and eq. a week or two before stopping the fina, since sust, deca, and eq. take much longer to clear than fina.
Hardcore20
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sorry guys I could not reply for th last day, my net was down. I do thank you guys for responding and giving you opinion.
Just to let you guys know I already bench well over 400 but only squat a little over 500 because of my knees. The reason I am taking the Deca is because of my joints and would really like to see if it makes a big difference.
I got to go to class right now talk to you guys later.
Just to let you guys know I already bench well over 400 but only squat a little over 500 because of my knees. The reason I am taking the Deca is because of my joints and would really like to see if it makes a big difference.
I got to go to class right now talk to you guys later.
