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My Quest to COMPETE - BEAT THE DISEASE!
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Bruce
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man i dont know keep the bars around if you can't get in a meal. you dont' have to be a stickler. i only drink metrx berry blast, yes i crave them they are so good. 29 bucks for a box used to be like 59, now gnc has a different deal with them. yea 25 grams of carbs b-12 its got a lot of vitamins in it. i just moved man so i don't have it unpacked to read off, also i told you shakes are not a big thing right now just getting in the beef, and i am hurting right now. yea dude i have this thing where i can not eat in the mornings. it sucks. i have to pound that food and feel like i'm gonna throw up. sometimes i just can't take in that breakfast. after lunch i get hungry every 45 mins no joke, and thats when i go to town. after a workout i can eat like gorilla. smoke one bowl and i am hungry again for a lot more. i mean i cook all the steak and chicken put them in a bowl. eat as much as i can, stop cover it, eat more smoke over and over till its all gone. that is my goal right now i'm not really counting anymore. that diet is only saved cause a long time ago another super ecto asked me for it so i pmed it to him and i saved it. you know a lot more about diet than me jk, i just don't have any fixation like you do. i go with trial and error and see what works. try not to worry so much man life will be alot more enjoyable and you will put on more mass. peaceJKurz1 said:
JKurz1
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Knock it...I do....it's all his routine...we switch from that and heavy dbell weeklky....he claims that the muscles don't know the difference......more isolation of delts.al420 said:
This means jack shit and I know it's because he's so developed already, but Cutler swear by it....
JKurz1
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why wouldnt you toss in the bars and rtds to your everyday mix??? Added solid cals? Give me the time frames of your meals, wake and bed....very interesting. What do you do all day and where r u from?
Today was a rough morning. Been having these weird ass numbness in my lower back and my feet. Feels like pins and needles. Last night's delt and tris went well, feeling pumped up, but abs are fading fast. Almost cashed it in and said, I dont feel normal, somthing else is wrong, i'm getting chubby, the scale is hardly moving (up to 154lbs today) 2lbs this week. and my strength is still GIRLLLL weak. So whats the point, is food really gonna make that much of a difference. I thought about all this as I ate my 1 cup of oats, 1 egg, 12 whites, scoop of whey and 2tb of pb....usually it's the best meal of the day, but today I almost cashied it in half way cause of how I feel bloated and fat. This was after cardio, 20 minutes, 3.0 at 12%....that tired me out 2 weeks ago, now it feels like Im not doing anything much but stretching.
For mentallity purposes,if I do lose the abs completely, and no cuts and just look ordinary, is that the next stage? I mean I'm not gonna go from diced to mr bulky overnight...there has to be a in between period, where I look like 95% of the other men out there, right?
Also, assure me that even at 30, Ill be able to cut again and all I need to do is increase cardio and decrease my cals.
Today was a rough morning. Been having these weird ass numbness in my lower back and my feet. Feels like pins and needles. Last night's delt and tris went well, feeling pumped up, but abs are fading fast. Almost cashed it in and said, I dont feel normal, somthing else is wrong, i'm getting chubby, the scale is hardly moving (up to 154lbs today) 2lbs this week. and my strength is still GIRLLLL weak. So whats the point, is food really gonna make that much of a difference. I thought about all this as I ate my 1 cup of oats, 1 egg, 12 whites, scoop of whey and 2tb of pb....usually it's the best meal of the day, but today I almost cashied it in half way cause of how I feel bloated and fat. This was after cardio, 20 minutes, 3.0 at 12%....that tired me out 2 weeks ago, now it feels like Im not doing anything much but stretching.
For mentallity purposes,if I do lose the abs completely, and no cuts and just look ordinary, is that the next stage? I mean I'm not gonna go from diced to mr bulky overnight...there has to be a in between period, where I look like 95% of the other men out there, right?
Also, assure me that even at 30, Ill be able to cut again and all I need to do is increase cardio and decrease my cals.
BiggT
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JKurz1 said:
Cutler also has gallons upon gallons of test, gh, and other goodies to swear by......that stuff enhances your training stimulus, even a crappy stimulus. The body needs to adapt to something and get good at it to grow...the muscles/body knows workload placed on it, the fastest way to give it a reason to grow is to increase that workload over time, the only way to actually know if you're doing that is to have something quantifiable.....you're a CPA, you know the importance of being able to measure, track, record, and actually keep track of something, rather than blindly going into the gym to 'pump' and 'blast' .......if you incline 275x8 one week, then do dumbells the next, then smith the next, then hammer incline the next, and you keep doing something different, and at the end of 6 months your 8 rep incline is still 275ish and you really made no progress on any of your other lifts, you won't grow (unless, of course, you're living on large doses of drugs and ancillaries.....cattle grow on that stuff without training, throw in a little resistance training, and bang). The fastest, easiest, least frustrating way to do this is to progressively get good at pressing, pulling, and squatting......your goal right now should be to add 150lbs to your 8 rep incline and military presses and 200-250lbs to your 8 rep squats and rows and deadlifts.
I agree with Bruce's eating philosophy, pound down quality whole foods, not egg whites and powders, but real, satisfying meals, whole eggs (it's the good cholesterol and your body needs the fats and cals more than ever right now), red meat in abundance. I hate to oversimplify because I know your history of beating yourself up about this, but you really have to let go of the fear, it's totally irrational and you're an intelligent enough guy to know that.
30 is pretty young, man.....I'm 27 and feel the same as when I was 18.....I think what you do is look at articles geared towards the average American slob and apply them to you....you're not the average American slob, the way you'll be training is not what the typical 30-year old, let themselves go to Hell in a handbasket American man does.
Don't worry about going through phases of looking normal and looking like this and that......any phase you pass through is gonna be a step up from 150 at 6' 2".......the thing is JK, you know this.....I am not telling you anything you don't already know, you let those irrational thoughts get the best of you, just outsmart them.
BiggT
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JK.......if you haven't been going from the floor, do that......deads are 1 thing that gets tricky to train and are individual.....right now, you should be able to pull from the floor consistently and keep making progress for a good while as you're nowhere near your potential on that lift (or anything for that matter)......rack deads are good if you're injured or fatigued in the low-back, or when you reach a point where pulling from the floor every week is just too taxing on the CNS.....or when you have a sticking point (which you won't for a while, it is just about getting plain old stronger now)....or, if you're doing a strongman show with an 18" dead, or if you're an ultra advanced powerlifter who is no longer capable of adding 10% per year to a lift and you want to trick your body into going balls out every week and you use the conjugate (wsb) method, lol that about exhausts everything I can think of......but, yeah, if the low back feels good and you keep eating, pull those MOFOs from the floor conventionally, it'll develop the most muscle in the most efficient manner, which is the goal right now.
JKurz1
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gimme a good solid mass rep scheme.....he say 3 sets 6-10....I think thats two low...I'd much rather do heavy deads than rows which are really taxing on my lower back since I am so frail...Iknow both are needed and I will do them....but I bet I could dump some of the seated row machines, pullovers, etc.
BiggT
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JK.....any rep range that is non-neural (lighter than max triples) and non-endurance (generally under 12, but I think 10 is more like it) is good for building mass, you get past the point of pure neural/attachment work and you're still low enough that you can progress with it. The important thing is to be consistent with the rep range so that when you add weight weekly, you now have a way to measure.....365x8 is better than 350x8, so you improved.
Here is what I would do.....
Deadlift (4 sets of 6, add weight each set, next week add 5-10 lbs to the top set)
Row ( 4 sets of 8. add weight each set, add 5lbs to the top set next week)....if your low back hates BB rows, use dumbells, but same thing, be consistent and keep progressing with it.
Chins (3 sets to failure, each week try to add 1 total rep......so if you hit 10-8-7 this week, next week, go for 10-8-8)
Thats it, no need to row from 37 different angles and do pulldowns with 11 different attachments, full range, compound lifts are efficient......as you gain weight and muscle, if you feel the traps need additional work, add in 3 sets of shrugs, right now though in the state you're in, deads and rows should provide plenty of stimulus and reason for your traps to grow.....if in time you feel your lats aren't wide enough, add weight to the chins, if they stall, do pulldowns for a bit, but all that stuff is just making tweaks.....slap some mass on your frame as efficiently as possible and then evaluate.....you can only carve and detail a boulder, you can't carve and detail a pebble......for the majority of the population who are either natural or use modest doses of anabolics, getting good at a few exercises that provide a lot of bang for your buck is much more efficient than just going to the gym, doing a bunch of random shit, trying to get sore, and crossing your fingers and hoping for the best.....and only if you take copious amounts of test, gh, and insulin will the best happen.
About carbs....I eat a lot, lol.....at 255, I eat over 500/day....last Summer I cut down to 224 and still ate about 350-400/day.....my body seems to handle them well and I find I need them and I need the glycogen stores to have a productive workout, they also make me look fuller and harder.....I just don't fire right on low carb eaing......you may be different, some people do well on lower carbs, some people cannot tolerate carbs, that's just what I do.
Here is what I would do.....
Deadlift (4 sets of 6, add weight each set, next week add 5-10 lbs to the top set)
Row ( 4 sets of 8. add weight each set, add 5lbs to the top set next week)....if your low back hates BB rows, use dumbells, but same thing, be consistent and keep progressing with it.
Chins (3 sets to failure, each week try to add 1 total rep......so if you hit 10-8-7 this week, next week, go for 10-8-8)
Thats it, no need to row from 37 different angles and do pulldowns with 11 different attachments, full range, compound lifts are efficient......as you gain weight and muscle, if you feel the traps need additional work, add in 3 sets of shrugs, right now though in the state you're in, deads and rows should provide plenty of stimulus and reason for your traps to grow.....if in time you feel your lats aren't wide enough, add weight to the chins, if they stall, do pulldowns for a bit, but all that stuff is just making tweaks.....slap some mass on your frame as efficiently as possible and then evaluate.....you can only carve and detail a boulder, you can't carve and detail a pebble......for the majority of the population who are either natural or use modest doses of anabolics, getting good at a few exercises that provide a lot of bang for your buck is much more efficient than just going to the gym, doing a bunch of random shit, trying to get sore, and crossing your fingers and hoping for the best.....and only if you take copious amounts of test, gh, and insulin will the best happen.
About carbs....I eat a lot, lol.....at 255, I eat over 500/day....last Summer I cut down to 224 and still ate about 350-400/day.....my body seems to handle them well and I find I need them and I need the glycogen stores to have a productive workout, they also make me look fuller and harder.....I just don't fire right on low carb eaing......you may be different, some people do well on lower carbs, some people cannot tolerate carbs, that's just what I do.
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