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My girlfriend's raise.

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velvett

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One of my gal pals just called me crying.

She's been with her company for 9 years and hadn't gotten a raise in 4 years so after much pushing she finally asked.

They let her wait two months and gave her a .75 cent per hour raise.

:rolleyes:


I think I would have packed up my stuff and went home.
 
velvett said:
One of my gal pals just called me crying.

She's been with her company for 9 years and hadn't gotten a raise in 4 years so after much pushing she finally asked.

They let her wait two months and gave her a .75 cent per hour raise.

:rolleyes:


I think I would have packed up my stuff and went home.
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wow......






dang*











...I think I would have stripped down and mooned the boss










...* Intellectual Property of Sokluless
 
What do I tell her?
I was so shocked I didn't know what to tell her.
She's brilliant - doesn't need to work there, yet can't talk her into leaving.

All I could say was, did you quit?
 
how the fuck did she stay at some POS place that didn't give her a raise in 4 motherfucking years...



oh oh, wait. free donuts in the lunch room?

nice.
 
velvett said:
What do I tell her?
I was so shocked I didn't know what to tell her.
She's brilliant - doesn't need to work there, yet can't talk her into leaving.

All I could say was, did you quit?
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..knowing the path versus walking the path......
 
let's see $0.75/hour x 40 hours/week x 50 weeks/year = $1,500 raise divided by 4 years is $375/year yeah that sucks.
 
No raise in 4 years? 2 years ago it was time to go, Any chill buisness will atleast hook you up on a yearly basis.....

-V
 
some places will do that to "encourage" you to move on; but that can make a person go POSTAL!
 
velvett said:
One of my gal pals just called me crying.

She's been with her company for 9 years and hadn't gotten a raise in 4 years so after much pushing she finally asked.

They let her wait two months and gave her a .75 cent per hour raise.

:rolleyes:


I think I would have packed up my stuff and went home.
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That's better than me; I got a 10 cent raise, and I am part of a union.
It's only a part time job though during school.

If I were you Velvett, I'd try to encourage her to at least keep her eyes open for something better, especially if she went to school. Sounds like a pretty shitty deal if they aren't even paying her- a manager- a salary wage.
What's her hourly at now with the raise?
 
That is an insult...

I can't belive she went 4 years with out getting a raise....

She needs to SPEAK UP.. go to her boss and voice how she feels, if shes a valuable asset to the company they will do what it takes to keep her... if they don't at least try then she should move on... Her future wouldn't be bright there anyway.
 
I make over 50k/year, and this year, do you know what my Christmas bonus was?




75 fucking dollars, that's what! Why didn't they just line everyone up and give em a slap in the face?
It's a good thing that I have plenty of other tax-free income....
 
some companies are stingy lately.. my buddy just for a .40 per hour raise.
 
marshallmadman said:
I make over 50k/year, and this year, do you know what my Christmas bonus was?




75 fucking dollars, that's what! Why didn't they just line everyone up and give em a slap in the face?
It's a good thing that I have plenty of other tax-free income....
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This is something I've never received at any company I've ever worked for.
 
I had only been here 2 full months beore Christmas...

I got a check for 250.00
a turkey
ham
40.00 in cash
gift certificate for 25.00 at the local grocery store


..and a 2.75% SOL bump.


Damn..I lik eit here more than I thought
 
Velvett,

that sucks, but frankly, she needs to stand the fuck up and take charge of her own destiny or she deserves whatever she DOESNT get.

There are bigger issues at play here if she WONT leave a job that doesnt show her a shred of decency or one iota of professional respect.


The 75cents is worse than nothing, its a FUCK YOU in an ignorant package.







She needs to take the risk.
 
The company I had worked for for 12 years gave us 2% raises since 1998..... and, after taxes the "bonus" was maybe enough for a case of beer.

I think a lot of companies are getting very stingy and think their employees are a dime a dozen.....
 
Velvett,

If she works a million hours a month, this could be something.

Don't hate.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Velvett,

If she works a million hours a month, this could be something.

Don't hate.
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Savage Floridians on patrol... RUN FOR YOUR LIVES:::

btw matt, i'm in.
 
Computers, immigrants, working moms, bad economy, job outsourcing, automated assembly lines, later retirement....think it's gonna get better?
 
Ulcasterdropout said:
Computers, immigrants, working moms, bad economy, job outsourcing, automated assembly lines, later retirement....think it's gonna get better?
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there is ALWAYS room for brilliance and ambition. Always.



is the playing field even? no. it sucks. it needs to change.

But if VELVETT thinks this woman is smart, then she is clearly off the fucking charts and needs to remove head (a) from ass (b) and get on with it.
 
She needs to walk. Giving her that raise is just a slap in the face after the time she has put in. She needs to find another job and give them 75 cents worth of notice.
 
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Razorguns said:
what kind of "manager" gets paid hourly?
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one that works for republicans...


:lmao:
 
ChefWide said:
one that works for republicans...
:lmao:
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Not quite. Managers put in more hours then the usual staff.

How much does she think a fair raise is? 3% is just the usual cost of living increase.
 
Your friend really needs to leave as soon as possible. Fuck them.

Stories like this are the main reason I quit working for other people.
 
lol i've gotten a .07 raise before, no shit...

For a fortune 500 company, fuckin' swindlers...
 
Well we all know how shitty the Real Estate market has been doing the past 4 years. That's a big reason for no raise.
 
EnderJE said:
Not quite. Managers put in more hours then the usual staff.

How much does she think a fair raise is? 3% is just the usual cost of living increase.
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Easy peasy, Frumundacheesy:


Of course the work more. so?


A fair raise is based upon preset performance schedule ratings. But that is NOT the answer.


REALLY she should help velvett expand HER business, duh? Two smart, empowered women who are pissed at the mail condescension establishment? Watch the fuck out, Eastern LI.

They would have to hire a guy to COUNT the money, then they could give him a decent raise and hold their collectively swollen and well coifed heads up high and never look back.
 
Sassy69 said:
This is something I've never received at any company I've ever worked for.
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You need to work for me.

Knee pads tester. :)
 
My wife received 0 raises in 7 years. She moved every few years from job to job and received a higher starting salary at each one. The last job she was at, they did'nt give her a raise for 3 years. She quit because of that and then they offered her a huge increase in pay. TOO LATE! She already took another job.

This is her first full year at the new job and they said "MAX 3%" at the review, it was a companywide "fact" going in. She went into the review and said she wanted 5% and just slightly hinted she would leave if she did'nt get it. They gave her the 5%. Still not much, but better than 3%. She's also at the top of her pa scale and can't really expect more than she's getting for a staff person, so it was pretty good.

When the manager gave her the notification the next day, he said "So, are you gonna stay with us?" lol

Having said all that, her job is in very high demand (healthcare) and companies are paying $5-$10k sign on bonuses to new hirees. They also are giving huge bonuses to people who refer employees. So their decision was a smart one. If she quits, they would have to find someone else and give them $5-$10k+ etc...


whew.. done
 
ChefWide said:
Savage Floridians on patrol... RUN FOR YOUR LIVES:::

btw matt, i'm in.
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good.
 
Razorguns said:
what kind of "manager" gets paid hourly?
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Actually, I put into and hourly form because when she was talking to me I need to seem busy to cover my shock/ horror. It's a yearly rate raise of $1600 which is roughly .75 cent an hour - it was the most effective way of me telling her she needs to bail.
 
Matt,

I don't know her yearly salary.
I do know she has full family medical which is paid in full for her (she's a single mom) and I think that's a factor for her.

I mean I guess, I dunno.

I'm still shocked.
There are people out there worse than my prior bosses.
I didn't think it was possible.
 
If she was making $20/hour, a .75 raise would be 3.75%. She may be making more, then of course it would be less of a percentage raise.

Still does'nt excuse all the other years.
 
she needs to speak up for herself, and rip into management

if she is making money for the company, and knows that leaving will result in them having a shittier bottom line as a result of her leaving, then its up to her to put the hard word on them and get a piece for herself. 75c an hour? lol what the hell is that
 
Okay, well first off she shouldn't have waited 4 years! I mean damn, come on.


She needs to start asking for a raise every 3 months now.
 
So, I helped her write a memo this morning in regard to her raise and they're going to meet with her today about it.

....I think I talked her into finding a new job anyway though.
 
If she is an office manager for a real estae brokerage firm then generally her salary should be incentive laden.

If she is producing, they should be more than willing to reward her accomplsihments. Maybe she recognizes she isnt and hasnt wished to stir the pot
 
velvett said:
So, I helped her write a memo this morning in regard to her raise and they're going to meet with her today about it.

....I think I talked her into finding a new job anyway though.
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Good for her! ;)
 
JerseyArt said:
If she is an office manager for a real estae brokerage firm then generally her salary should be incentive laden.

If she is producing, they should be more than willing to reward her accomplsihments. Maybe she recognizes she isnt and hasnt wished to stir the pot
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She's an office manager not a sales manager.
She does not have a real estate license.

This isn't pot stiring Jersey - I mean really.
 
I didn't realize thet paid managers of RE houses on an hourly rate. I assumed it was salary driven. I have a few friends in that field working in Manhattan and on LI and they have good jobs. Sorry to hear about that.
 
SoreArms said:
I didn't realize thet paid managers of RE houses on an hourly rate. I assumed it was salary driven. I have a few friends in that field working in Manhattan and on LI and they have good jobs. Sorry to hear about that.
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She's an office manager not a sales manager, it's a clerical job.

There's an enormous difference.

1 - She does not oversee the the RE sales people
2 - She does not have a real estate license and therefore does not collect commissions.
 
Frisky said:
Good for her! ;)
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She's nice girl, kinda passive emotionally, hard working and easily over looked and stepped on. If I could afford a full time employee I would hire her in a second.
 
Sometimes, people have no idea what they're worth. Encourage her to at least post up her resume on monster.com or something similar and go to a few job interviews (even if she isn't actively pursuing a new job), just so she can get a feel for what's available to her. She might find out that someone with her skillset and years of experience can make much more...or she might find out that she's currently being paid exactly what she's worth. The thing is, unless she does some investigating, she'll never know.
 
velvett said:
She's nice girl, kinda passive emotionally, hard working and easily over looked and stepped on. If I could afford a full time employee I would hire her in a second.
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Can I work for you?
 
lucidblue said:
I can see you following Velvett around with fabric samples, etc. :lmao:
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I thought he did that already?


:lmao:
 
Y_Lifter said:
Is she Hot ?
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I would like to extend thanks to Y for cutting through the frosting here and getting to the crux of the bisquit.


Y_Lifter, salude!
 
velvett said:
She's nice girl, kinda passive emotionally, hard working and easily over looked and stepped on. If I could afford a full time employee I would hire her in a second.
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Shes lucky to have a friend like you to assure her of her 'worth'. Its easy to let things slide....

I have a friend that is basically the same way.. very passive but hard working, I tell her on a weekly basis she needs to 'speak up' shes over worked under paid.. sad situation..

Sometimes my mouth gets me in trouble... but on the other hand it gets me noticed, and lets people know I refuse to be stomped on or taken advantage of. I learend long ago to use my lungs.. :evil:
 
Frisky said:
Shes lucky to have a friend like you to assure her of her 'worth'. Its easy to let things slide....

I have a friend that is basically the same way.. very passive but hard working, I tell her on a weekly basis she needs to 'speak up' shes over worked under paid.. sad situation..

Sometimes my mouth gets me in trouble... but on the other hand it gets me noticed, and lets people know I refuse to be stomped on or taken advantage of. I learend long ago to use my lungs.. :evil:
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I think we were separated at birth.
 
velvett said:
I think we were separated at birth.
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unfair. really. have a heart.





:chomp:
 
I would be pissed! I get 2 non-pay related reviews a year (they're nice because I usually wind up getting to branch off in new ways) and a raise + bonus every year.

That's insane! At minimum she should get a review every year.
 
velvett said:
She's an office manager not a sales manager.
She does not have a real estate license.

This isn't pot stiring Jersey - I mean really.
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I wasn't suggesting she was stirring the pot. I suggested rather that perhaps she was avoiding doing so for good reason.

I only commeneted at all because this is a topic I actually know a great deal about. It;s a family business.

As you stated she isnt the sales manager, so my previous comments are withdrawn. But absent that in a real estate office it sounds like shes in a glorified secretarial position, which perhaps explains some of the reality of being "undervalued" at work.

I'm not trying to be an ass, or pick on your friend. An honest evaluation of her actual importance to the firm is critical in determining how hard she should or shouldnt push. There isnt a great deal of demand for non sales realted "office managers" in the real estate brokerage industry. That they make the distinction at all likey signifies a fairly large firm, or a remax type office where fees from agents are collected to cover her salary.
 
JerseyArt said:
As you stated she isnt the sales manager, so my previous comments are withdrawn. But absent that in a real estate office it sounds like shes in a glorified secretarial position, which perhaps explains some of the reality of being "undervalued" at work.

I'm not trying to be an ass, or pick on your friend. An honest evaluation of her actual importance to the firm is critical in determining how hard she should or shouldnt push. There isnt a great deal of demand for non sales realted "office managers" in the real estate brokerage industry. That they make the distinction at all likey signifies a fairly large firm, or a remax type office where fees from agents are collected to cover her salary.
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Real estate offices in the hamptons are not like the chain companies - they're old school (if you knew what kind of listings they still take you'd die) and they have 75+ full time agents in this particular office. Secretary - office manager, it's just a title really the work is the same. They have a phone person, a bookkeeper, a marketing/mailing person and my friend on staff as non independent contractors.

Honest evaluation - that's the point there were no "evaluations" over the course of 4 years which would make sense because why should one want to part with more company money? The only reason they threw her a bone is because she finally opened her mouth.

Jersey - I too have a background in Real Estate from a newbie sales person to a sales manager and finally broker and I have to say respectfully that you are probably not familiar with the way real estate companies position themselves in The Hamptons (with the exception of the now closed Century 21 office). Which is not a dig because when I first encoutered it I was shocked at how different is was to other markets.


But this isn't about real estate - this about a girl who needs to stand up for herself and realize that no one is just going to hand you anything in life.
 
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velvett said:
this about a girl who needs to stand up for herself and realize that no one is just going to hand you anything in life.
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AMEN Sista ;)
 
ChefWide said:
but frankly, she needs to stand the fuck up and take charge of her own destiny or she deserves whatever she DOESNT get.
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right on brother!






























How pathetic am I? Very. I'm used to it.
 
velvett said:
Real estate offices in the hamptons are not like the chain companies - they're old school (if you knew what kind of listings they still take you'd die) and they have 75+ full time agents in this particular office. Secretary - office manager, it's just a title really the work is the same. They have a phone person, a bookkeeper, a marketing/mailing person and my friend on staff as non independent contractors.

Honest evaluation - that's the point there were no "evaluations" over the course of 4 years which would make sense because why should one want to part with more company money? The only reason they threw her a bone is because she finally opened her mouth.

Jersey - I too have a background in Real Estate from a newbie sales person to a sales manager and finally broker and I have to say respectfully that you are probably not familiar with the way real estate companies position themselves in The Hamptons (with the exception of the now closed Century 21 office). Which is not a dig because when I first encoutered it I was shocked at how different is was to other markets.


But this isn't about real estate - this about a girl who needs to stand up for herself and realize that no one is just going to hand you anything in life.
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I'm uncertain where we are getting crossed here. There is nothing in what you wrote that disagrees with anything I have said. Essentially I only pointed out the contrast because it is significant when evaluating her situation.

It isn't uncommon in smaller firms for secretarial help to go extended periods without a pay increase. And you're correct in as much as they likely never get around to it until the individual voices an objection.

Her reluctance may have less to do with shyness than a realisitc assessment of her value to the firm. I don't know, nor do I pretend to know. It's only that in advising friends it is best to understand the particulars of theri situation before pushing for an aggressive position. You may already have, but in essence I was only advising caution
 
velvett said:
I don't get it.
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He replied to his own post. He has a good point though. He's right about his original post.
 
UPDATE:

They uped her raise from $1600 to $3200 and gave her the oh well we don't want to lose you speech (read - what? train someone new?).



Whatever she decides to do at least she'll have a few more bucks in her pocket.
 
Damn. When's the last time she updated her resume? Does she have other aspirations? Hell if she's been in the biz that long she should have a healthy network of people. You always need to be looking at your next job while the one you are in provides you the resources, experience, networking, etc. to get to where you are trying to go. I.e. does this job fit on HER road map or does she fit on the JOB"s roadmap?
 
Sassy69 said:
Damn. When's the last time she updated her resume? Does she have other aspirations? Hell if she's been in the biz that long she should have a healthy network of people. You always need to be looking at your next job while the one you are in provides you the resources, experience, networking, etc. to get to where you are trying to go. I.e. does this job fit on HER road map or does she fit on the JOB"s roadmap?
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Pretty sure it's the latter.

She's coming around...slowly.

LOL

She was more angry at them during the meeting to up her raise than the intial discussion of the 1st crappy raise.

Employers can be real shits - I feel for her because I let my old bosses step all over me too until I snapped and did something about it.
 
Chances are they were not even aware of how she felt. That's why its so important that she speak up for herself. Sometimes if you are a great worker and just go w/ the flow, you get "forgotten". Don't let peeps take you for granted.
 
velvett said:
One of my gal pals just called me crying.

She's been with her company for 9 years and hadn't gotten a raise in 4 years so after much pushing she finally asked.

They let her wait two months and gave her a .75 cent per hour raise.

:rolleyes:


I think I would have packed up my stuff and went home.
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that's fucked up
 
velvett said:
What do I tell her?
I was so shocked I didn't know what to tell her.
She's brilliant - doesn't need to work there, yet can't talk her into leaving.

All I could say was, did you quit?
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allow me to have sex with her. she will say, "that was horrible!!!" afterwards, then you will come in and say, "if you stay at your current job, it will be twice as bad!" she will quit the next day for sure. of course then we need to make love since you will owe me a favor for helping your friend out.
 
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