My first cycle

[No1dnbhead]

My cycle

D-Bol 40 mg 6weeks

Stust 500 mg 12 weeks

Deca 300mg 11 weeks

Clomid 4 weeks after

Noverdex if I have gyno at any time throughout the cycle

Hcg during cycle

How does this look for a first cycle and before anyone asks I've been training for 4 years so my training is pretty spot on and my diet is on form. So what sort of gains am I looking at with this cycle?

 

[Judo Tom]

please post full stats/histor/etc etc that will help you get some great advice on this forum.

There are some issues right off the bat with that cycle though.

 

[No1dnbhead]

I am 23 my height is 5 foot 8 and I am 12 stone my body fat percentage is 10 percent. Anything else you need to know?

 

[Judo Tom]

deca is not a good idea for a first cycle
dbol dosage is a bit high for the first cycle and 6 weeks is a bit too long try 4 weeks

do some research on pct and see what you think of post cycle/unleashed and formastanzol.. most everyone loves them for pct


its your first cycle.. test only is great 1 compound easy sides easy recovery no need to rush and add 3 compounds.

 

[No1dnbhead]

Il look into it but whats wrong with my pct that I have on hand? And I will lower my dose to 25 for d Bol.

 

[Judo Tom]

yeah its alright but i think test only is better or maybe test w/ 20-25mg of dbol for 4 weeks.

have a good anti estrogen on hand.

 

[stevesmi]

don't run deca for a first cycle.. i hope you take this advice.

 

[Judo Tom]

there are just better things out there then nolva for pct. do yourself a favor and at least look into post cycle / unleashed. its great stuff

 

[No1dnbhead]

What wrong with deca first cycle? I no a load of people that have done it for the first and got great gains and I wanted it for heavy lifting to help my joints

 

[No1dnbhead]

I have got clomid as a pct too.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ and I know a load of people on here who have struggled to recover from deca. look you came here for advice and that is the advice given by me and everyone else posting... i've used deca in the past twice myself. it is not for newbs. recovery is very prolonged. risk of gyno is high. it just isnt' a good idea for a first cycle any way you slice it.

just run test only for 10 weeks. read the link in my signature

save the deca for a 3rd cycle.

 

[No1dnbhead]

I wasn't arguing with you I just had no idea that deca was that hard to recover from I have been told it is very mild. Il just use the test and il use the dbol to kick start for 4 weeks. Thanks for the advise

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ it is mild and has low sides compared to other AAS but it is the hardest one to recover from, not the best idea for a newb first timer.

you want to start off with something with low sides AND that isn't gonna be hard to recover from.

test and primo is a much better choice for you.

 

[No1dnbhead]

Primo is a good one for strength gains isn't it?

 

[Tux]

Primo is great for slow, steady gains with low sides... but it's downside is the price. Also hard on the hairline if you're prone to MPB. Like the others suggested, just straight test, or test with 20-25mg/day of dbol for 3-4 weeks is plenty for a first cycle. You want to keep your first cycle as simple and mild as possible. Your receptors are fresh so you'll still gain plenty with just that, and you'll have room to add compounds later on. Also, the fewer compounds you run, the easier it is to tell what hormones agree with you and what hormones don't. Test and a little dbol, some HCgen and forged post-cycle or unleashed for PCT is great. I personally still use nolva with my PCT, but I'm using HCGen and some other needto supps this time around as well, it's just safer and better that way. Good luck bro, you'll have great gains with just some test and mild dbol!

 

[No1dnbhead]

Cheers man il do that. What do to think about switching d-Bol for anavar? All I no is it's good for strength gains is it any good?