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My Experience training w/ Frank Zane in CA....

punch

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I have not posted here for some time. This is due in part to the way this board has changed and the fact that the company I own is commanding more of my time, anyway...

Not too long ago my wife sent me to Ca. to train 3 days one on one w/ Frank Zane. I will assume most of you know who he is, if not google him. As far as I am concerned he exemplified the perfect body. One of the smallest BB's yet a physique carved from stone. He one his Olympias at weights of just over 180lbs. Here, in a very abbreviated layout is what I learned.

FZ( this is how I will refer to him ) is one of the most intense individuals I have ever met. He exudes knowledge and at his core is a very spiritual mentality which has carried over into his entire life.

There were many synergies to the way I trained and his methods. I have always trained old school, its what I grew up on, and have done well with.

FZ sized me up when I initially walked in the door at his home. He commented on my frame. At the time I was 198lb and what I though was pretty damn good condition. His gym was real old school, some machine most likely out of production for the last decade or so. For time purposes we did 2 sets of 10 reps on almost all movements. Frank trained very instinctively. He new his body like know other and really knew how to manipulate it.

For example. He explained to me that in early season training during his first Olympia he knew that because his shoulder width was not as large as his competition he decided to drop the poundage on trap work and refocus on delt with. It worked, he won, but I was so impressed that he realized his shortfall, regrouped and redirected his efforts.

FZ never trained w/ insane weight. He showed me journals form 20 years ago when he was in the gym w/ Arnold and saw the jaw dropping poundage he used. FZ's workouts were all based on feeling every single rep as if he were only doing one rep, it had to count. When we did Dumbell incline presses for example, he picked up the 60's and lowered the weight w/ a 4-5 second count. As he approched the bottom part of the press he turned is palms in so they were facing one another and sunk the weight past his shoulders. I was like, you must be kidding me....he did this for 10 reps. He asked me what wieght I normally used, I said 100's to 120's. He told me to pick up the 75's. I did and every time I lowered the weight he told me I was going to fast, honestly, he was starting to piss me off...I focused 100% and lowered the weight at the correct speed turning my wrists in and slowly pushing the weight up. Let me tell you...I was humbled and after 2 sets, shaking.

All of our workouts were done in this fashion. I never focused so much in my life. I normally do seated dumbell shoulder presses w/ 80's as high as 100 I could only do the 70's and barely got out 9 reps. Speed in FZ's opinion was not a component of BBing. It all made sense. TIME UNDER TENSION. He told me that after years of adhearing to this method he avoided injury, for the most part, and developed a rock hard, striated physique.

He did have days when he would go heavier, we all do, but he never for example squatted much more than 315, benched more than 315. It simply wasnt necessary.

As for diet.Holy shit, he tore mine apart. First off.. I drink 4-6 cups of coffe a day. In each cup 2 teaspoons of sugar...thats almost a half cup of pure sugar a day. He told me to switch to splenda and never have coffee first thing in the morning. Why? because you essentially begin your day in a dehydrated state. Makes sense. Also, never any carbs after 6:00 p.m. or so. At most a grapefruit w/ some splenda. Also a protein shake before bed, w/ water, little to no carbs. Im leaving a lot out, but Im giving you what made the biggest difference in my diet. 3 months later I am now 180lb, ripped to the bone, vascular and feeling great. Its the look I like. I do not want to be a mass freak, its too hard to maintain later in life.

I am happy to chat more. This thread is getting looooong. I will say that I am fortunate to have the financial means to do something like this, it was a gift of a lifetime from my wife. If any of you EVER have the chance to do something like this I totally recommend it. Being trained One on One by a multiple Mr. Olympia winner was truely a life altering experience. Peace.
 
awesome post thanks for the time to write all this!!!

just curious what did the guys ewat back then to build all this thickness, did he mention anything? anything about juice?
 
The topic of Anabolics did come up. In a nutshell...Juice was a very " NON " Scientific area back then. People did some D-bol and crap but law was very loose also. The amt of sauce done now would have been considered lethal dosages back then FYI. Diet was fairly straight forward..

4-6 eggs ( whole ) 1 slice multigrain bread..sausage on occasion slice cheese

Cottage cheese or Non fat ( unflavored yogurt ) can tuna

turkey, chicken breasts on pita, w/ protein shake slice cheese

cottage cheese, can tuna

cup of coffe, fruit( before workout)

post workout shake

dinner, NO carbs steak, fish chicken

grapefruit for late meal snack

protein shake before bed.

Note: Protein shakes are with water.
 
I couldn't either man. Even though it's sugary, I use ketchup, I put a little squirt on the tip and take a huge bite. I don't wanna use too much ketchup. I end up using a packets worth on every egg. I only have 3-4 a day though.

I was thinking hot sauce because the lag of calories and sugar carbs, but I don't know how good that'll be. Ask on the diet board, they'll give ya' ways.
 
Good post, to be the best you need to train the most efficient way possible for your goals and leave the ego at the door. Zane is very knowledgeable and his results show it.
 
you mentioned his old journals, what were some of those workouts like?
btw, thanks for posting this sounds like an awesome experience.
 
He actually made me a posing CD, its very intense. Overall his methodology of lifting is very basic...slow and calculated. It will not mesh with a lot of lifting styles out there....one thing is for sure...it transformed my body in a short period of time. FZ utilizes an off season/on split which adds sets and reps as show time nears. The program is very regimented yet open to instinctive methods. Fascinating to say the least.
 
Went to see FZ at a weight of 198lb 12-15% bf

3 mo later. 180lb 7-8% bf my guess.( these are real rough )

My lifts have stayed the same, endurance has gone up. I did lose size, how could you not with that weight loss.

Literally twice as vascular as before.

Im still doing incline presses w/ 225 for 15 reps, Squats 315 15 reps, 225 for 25. ETC

Overall, I cant believe I am lifting close to what I was w/ 18lbs of wieght loss. My goal now is to creep back up to 190, staying as lean as possible. I am currently supplementing w/ Whey protein, some V12( this is a useless product, just using what I have left)

Have never done juice in my life, cant say that i plan to. I will be submitting pics soon.

One interesting side note...I have been using FZ's method of ab work called ab aerobics. You essentially set a treadmill up on a very fast walk. Get on for 2 min. Then, lay on a bench ( prefer a decline bench to raise difficulty ) and perform 25 reps of leg raises. Then lay on floor, place your feet on an elevated surface. Perform a crunch only raising your shoulders off the floor. At the same time press down on the heels of your feet and raise your pelvis up. This should be done in one fluid movement of 25 reps. Lastly go to pulldown machine and perform 25 reps of rope crunches in the front and side to side. Start the process again on the treadmill. Do this for 3 sets of the circuit at least 3 days a week.

Result...my abs are more pronounced and harder than ever in my entire life.
 
You know what I find really funny is that so many guys on this site claim to lift some big ass weight, yet at my gym (it's one of the best and most popular in my area) the BIGGEST weights I have seen pushed around by the BIGGEST guys would be considered light weight for this board's standards. The gym I train at you got some hardcore trainers. The most impressive thing I saw was a guy benching 4 plates per side for 4-5 reps and deadlifted 5 plates + 15lbs per side for a single, while another big guy (at least 250lbs built like a tank around 5'10) benched 4 plates a side for a single rep. These guys at my gym aren't little peas, so how is it that quite a few guys on this site with half the "monstrosity" are pushing way more weight. Makes you wonder. :rolleyes:

I am not surprised that Frank Zane has always used that amount of weight, which many would consider pansy poundages. The saying "it's about the quality, not quantity" is so damn true, especially when it comes to bodybuilding.

Good post Punch!
 
A word about Frank Zanes journals.....He literally had a wall of books which contained every single workout, what it felt like, his mood for the day, every meal, his meditation time and on and on....this goes back to the 70's. I was like a little kid in school. The journals were awe inspiring, talked about who he trained with, Arnold, Serge, Franco!!!!

That is dedication to the extreme.

One funny story is when we did legs....we were on the leg extension machine and Frank cranked out 10 VERY slow reps with a decent poundage. He would lift in a controlled manner, never locking out, but lowereing the weight for a 5-8 second count...very intense. He actually grunted and strained on the 9th and 10th rep.. I got so freakin pumped watching him I couldnt believe it.. Now it was my turn.

I sit in the machine. He then looks at me and says, " Did you see those reps? That was a perfect set. Im not sure you have what it takes to pull that off! But being that your a big guy, I'll up the weight 20lbs" . So, at this point Im ready to bust out of my skin. I start the extensions which was at a weight I could normally do 10 reps with....however I hadnt performed them his way...So I crank out 8 reps and my quads are on fire, I get 9 reps, then I let out a growl and barely got the tenth. Frank gets in my face and says 4 more.. Come on, beat me, lets go, do it NOW he says. I tap into whatever reserve I had left and on my 14th rep I failed.

My legs were cramping and the lactic acid build up was so intense I was hopping around like an idiot.

He told me that what I just did is what seperates a champion from a recreational BB'er. He said you may not win an Olympia or ever go pro, but if you put your heart and soul into every lift like you just did, with that much focus you WILL achieve your goals. Most inspiring workout I ever had!

Peace.
 
punch said:
A word about Frank Zanes journals.....He literally had a wall of books which contained every single workout, what it felt like, his mood for the day, every meal, his meditation time and on and on....this goes back to the 70's. I was like a little kid in school. The journals were awe inspiring, talked about who he trained with, Arnold, Serge, Franco!!!!

That is dedication to the extreme.

One funny story is when we did legs....we were on the leg extension machine and Frank cranked out 10 VERY slow reps with a decent poundage. He would lift in a controlled manner, never locking out, but lowereing the weight for a 5-8 second count...very intense. He actually grunted and strained on the 9th and 10th rep.. I got so freakin pumped watching him I couldnt believe it.. Now it was my turn.

I sit in the machine. He then looks at me and says, " Did you see those reps? That was a perfect set. Im not sure you have what it takes to pull that off! But being that your a big guy, I'll up the weight 20lbs" . So, at this point Im ready to bust out of my skin. I start the extensions which was at a weight I could normally do 10 reps with....however I hadnt performed them his way...So I crank out 8 reps and my quads are on fire, I get 9 reps, then I let out a growl and barely got the tenth. Frank gets in my face and says 4 more.. Come on, beat me, lets go, do it NOW he says. I tap into whatever reserve I had left and on my 14th rep I failed.

My legs were cramping and the lactic acid build up was so intense I was hopping around like an idiot.

He told me that what I just did is what seperates a champion from a recreational BB'er. He said you may not win an Olympia or ever go pro, but if you put your heart and soul into every lift like you just did, with that much focus you WILL achieve your goals. Most inspiring workout I ever had!

Peace.
WOW!! That's the s**t I'm talking about!! One of the greatest bodybuilders ever to walk the earth and some say the most perfect physique ever. Training with intensity like that is just AWESOME!!! Man, your a lucky MOFO!!!! :)
 
That's intense, but is there any actual need to go so slow on reps? I suppose because more damage is said to be done to the muscle tissue during the negative phase, so extending it can only help.

Anyone have any input on this? I love the burn from slower negatives, but will it cause better growth?
 
I believe that most injuries occur when explosive movements are done. FZ's concept was that time under tension leads to harder more well developed muscle, quality muscle. It is the combination of styles that define a well rounded body IMO. Doing slow, controled lifts may not be something you do each and every workout. There is a time and place for faster more forceful lifts.

One thing is for sure....when ANY momentum is taken out of a lift, it requires the recruitment of your stabilizers to a greater degree. This has helped me during my heavier days.

A great way to utilize this method if you do not wish to perform slow reps througout your whole workout is to save it for your last set of each movement. In this fashion it would ensure that you taxed any remaining stores of energy in the target area.
 
Yeah I hear that, but I don't think it can make the muscles any harder. Not tryong to act as if I know it all, and FZ knows shit, just doesn't make sense to me. I'll admit, I do like the feeling I get from slow reps sometimes, and the idea of doing them at the end is nice. I used to take my last set to failure on every exerciss. It worked nice. I never got burnt out.
 
Anyone have any input on this? I love the burn from slower negatives, but will it cause better growth?

I think you have even, controlled negatives slowing it down any more isn't going to help. Just poop you out.

But focus IS important, and that alone could improve results.

Btw, punch, that's some wife you got there bro. :D Frank Zane one-on-one is NOT cheap
 
JKURZ.....Back workout was intense. Interestingly Frank never went to full extension on lat pulldowns. We did them to the front with the hammer gripped pulldown bar. He would bring the bar to his chest and let it back up very slowly, but never to the point of fully extending arms. The slight bend at the top put kept the tension on my lats and it burned more than I ever felt them before. He was a fan of dumbell rows. He performed them by leaning one hand on the dumbell rack. I still do them with one leg on a bench, this feels better to me. I was surprised that he prefered using the machine row machine. Specifically he liked the one where you could essentially do one arm rows independently. Shrugs were not a priority to him. I chose to stick w/ my back routine, its my best bodypart. The one thing I did incorporate was the neg. on the lat pull down and NOT going to full extension.
 
I switch between Pulldown work and row work frequently. I used to do pull ups, however I feel I have more control doing pulldowns, but thats me. I am a huge fan of pullups though.

Anyway heres what I do, I will use Bent over rows here first.

1 warmup 45's a side 15 reps slow
3 working sets working my way to 225 for 12 reps with a slight hold at top. I always pull back with my elbows, helps me concentrate more.

3 sets of dumbell rows 100's for 10-12 reps. I bring the dumbell to the lower half of my torso, again pulling with my elbow, very controlled.

3 sets of barbell shrugs.
1st set 225 for 15 reps w/ 2-3 sec hold at top. I work my way to 315/375. On my last set I superset w/ 100lb dbels for as many reps as I can. I believe in holding the weight as high up as possible and squeezing as hard as possible.

6 sets of pull downs.

3 to the front and 3 using close grip bar.

I really dont go insane here w/ weight. This movement is easy to screw up if you dont use perfect control. In both movements as I bring the bar down I extend my chest out and force my elbows back. I then lower the weight slowly w/out ever fully extending. This is pure torture!!!

thats it, very simple, doesnt take long. I really dont rest, my partner goes and then Im right back in doing my set. As for lower back, I get plenty of work doing bent over rows and SLDL on leg day for hams.

I will tell you what Frank told me which I have neglected for years....the seratus( spelling) He would do 4 sets pof pullovers on a bench with feet on floor. Im assuming you know of these. I have been doing them for 3 months now, never heavier than 75's. Let me tell you, when you hit a side oblique pose...NOTHING looks better than having your seratus look like the teeth of a hungry lion. I do these either on chest or back day, depending how I feel. Peace.
 
punch said:
I switch between Pulldown work and row work frequently. I used to do pull ups, however I feel I have more control doing pulldowns, but thats me. I am a huge fan of pullups though.

Anyway heres what I do, I will use Bent over rows here first.

1 warmup 45's a side 15 reps slow
3 working sets working my way to 225 for 12 reps with a slight hold at top. I always pull back with my elbows, helps me concentrate more.

3 sets of dumbell rows 100's for 10-12 reps. I bring the dumbell to the lower half of my torso, again pulling with my elbow, very controlled.

3 sets of barbell shrugs.
1st set 225 for 15 reps w/ 2-3 sec hold at top. I work my way to 315/375. On my last set I superset w/ 100lb dbels for as many reps as I can. I believe in holding the weight as high up as possible and squeezing as hard as possible.

6 sets of pull downs.

3 to the front and 3 using close grip bar.

I really dont go insane here w/ weight. This movement is easy to screw up if you dont use perfect control. In both movements as I bring the bar down I extend my chest out and force my elbows back. I then lower the weight slowly w/out ever fully extending. This is pure torture!!!

thats it, very simple, doesnt take long. I really dont rest, my partner goes and then Im right back in doing my set. As for lower back, I get plenty of work doing bent over rows and SLDL on leg day for hams.

I will tell you what Frank told me which I have neglected for years....the seratus( spelling) He would do 4 sets pof pullovers on a bench with feet on floor. Im assuming you know of these. I have been doing them for 3 months now, never heavier than 75's. Let me tell you, when you hit a side oblique pose...NOTHING looks better than having your seratus look like the teeth of a hungry lion. I do these either on chest or back day, depending how I feel. Peace.
i never liked pullovers on a bench, but god damn it gyms need to bring back the nautilus pull over machine, that shit would burn up ur lats and serratus like no other
 
I love pullovers...........Use them on chest day to, just not as deep....you can also do them kneeling with the rope on the cables....sort of like for abs, but with an exxagerrated pulling motion..........wonder why there are no deads in this program? Leg day only?
 
JKurz1 said:
I just cant fathom the fact that Zane doesnt deadlift...........maybe it's overrated.....
I'm guessing that he probably did them in his younger days, but he's alot older now and probably can do without the added stress on the lower back region.
 
DieHarder said:
i never liked pullovers on a bench, but god damn it gyms need to bring back the nautilus pull over machine, that shit would burn up ur lats and serratus like no other
DH, I have a Nautilus Super Pullover in my home gym. I bought it from a guy for $400.00. Man, it's argubly the best "machine" ever made for the Lats. Chins, Old School T-Bar Rows, Nautilus Pullovers & Deadlifts are all you need to build an AWESOME back.
 
Been away for a few days,...Great post Punch!! Thanks for sharing!! Sounds like a killer back & ab routine, especially with the stressing of the eccentric.

So,...what do ya do for leg & chest day?
 
I read this thread yesterday, then went and did 2 sets of incline dumbell presses with about 60% of what I normally lift. I went slow and steady, about 8 secs on the lift and neg. I felt the burn the rest of the day after that, and am feeling it right now! Punch, did FZ say if this technique was good for bulking, or endurance, or what? Tomorrow i'll try it with shoulders (instead of my norm routine), just to see how intense it feels.
 
DC does the negatives. It gives a nice burn, a pretty descent pump, and gets you sore as hell. As for causing extra growth, not sure about that. I mean, if it made a huge difference, everyone would be doing it.
 
Yes Frank did deads back in the day, I used to when I played football, but to be perfectly honest they dont fit into my workout. I used to love doing them, but at this point whatever Im doing is working for me. For myself, between SLDL, Squats and shrugs Im replicating deads anyway.

As for GROWTH using the the dumbell chest press routine as I wrote earlier, it is and has been working, very well I might add. You may have to take a step or 2 back. But, think of it this way, if you could do 2-3 sets of these w/ say the 80's...you go up 5lbs a side, it shouldnt be treated any different then any other movement where you steadily go up after a certain amt of reps and sets are achieved.

Keep in mind also, that Im not nor did Frank say this form( style ) need be done ALL the time. Its what works for you.. I will do these slow, concentrated movements for 3-4 weeks then have a week of low reps higher weight to shake things up a bit. TIME UNDER TENSION greatly strengthens your stabilizer muscles, the stronger your stabilizers the more weight you can handle, safely. My muscles are more dense and striated than ever before. I am proof that this works. Peace.
 
Here is Leg day which I did yesterday:

Squats ( I DO NOT GO SLOW ON THESE, NORMAL TEMPO )

warmup: 135/ 15 reps
1st set: 225/ 15 reps
2nd set: 275/ 12 reps
3rd set: 315 / 10 reps
4th set: 225/ 20 reps ( at this point Im ready to pass out )

Leg press ( THESE I DO VERY SLOW ON POS AND NEG )

1st set: 5 plates a side
2nd set: 7 plates a side
3rd set: 9 plates a side all 10 reps( knees to chest on each rep, no partial bulshit)

Leg ext ( NORMAL TEMPO ON THE WAY UP, DONT LOCK OUT, 4-6 SEC NEG )
I have a cybex plate loaded machine,

1st set: 2 plates 12 reps
2nd set: 3 plates 10 reps
3rd set: 4 plates ( whatever I can do ) in some cases will drop set on this

SLDL( FOR NOW THIS IS MY ONLY HAM MOVEMENT, WAITING FOR A NEW LEG CURL MACHINe) I do these on a platform:

1st set: 1 plate a side 10 reps
2nd set: 45's plus 10's a side 10-12 reps
3rd set: 45's plus 25's a side 10 reps

If I have anything left I may do dbl lunges..But for the most part thats it.

Also if Im pressed for time I will superset Leg presses and Squats, w/ less wieght of course.
 
Sorry for clogging on your board bro, but I find this fasinating...I could sit at Venice Beach and watch those dudes train for hours...always come away with something new and it helps relieve the stagnacity that training can bring.....can I ask one more? Delt training. I find this bp to be one that is VERY easily overtrained. Wondering how he trained delts and how your routine incorporates his theories. Much K...
 
no problem at all man.... I am here to share my experience with everyone.

I am convinced that shoulders are not only the easiest to overtrain but to injur as well. I really prefer to do neither of those, so all of my shoulder movements are slow and controlled. Bottom line is if your swinging or cheating on ANY shoulder movements the wieght is too heavy period.

Presses: I vary these greatly..I will use dbels as an example because thats what Frank and I did. Every third workout I do behind the necks.

Start w/ 50's warmup 15 reps normal tempo.

1st set: 60's 10 reps press them up slowly and approx 3/4 way down turn wrists in( like a hammer position and as I mentioned for dbel chest presses) and lower to a comfortable position.

2nd set: 70's
3rd set 80's as many as I can
4th set back to the 50's/60's for 15 reps( your shoulders should be ready to fall off at this point)

Lateral Raises:

We did these 1 arm at a time w/ non lifting arm grabbing on to a squat rack. I leaned so that my body was at an angle. On these I use normal tempo up, at the top I dont lock out, but lower the wieght very slowly.

3 sets/ 10 reps w/ wieght ranging from 25's to 35's. Any heavier for me, Im swinging and the excersize is useless.
** Every other week I will do one arm laterals sitting on an incline bench to one side. Slightly higher than 45 degrees. I will brace my non working arm around the bench or just keep it to my side. Then, using a poundage where you could barely get out 10 reps at best. raise the dumbell slightly past shoulder level and lower slowly . The beuty of this is that you cant cheat, its a very intense burn,

Bent over Lateral raises:

Frank was actuall impressed that I did these as this is often a neglected bodypart. The body is 3 dimensional, train it as such.( I like that line)

3 sets of 10

we did this strict, dont round your back, slight bend in knees. Use a weight whereby your elbows are not completely bent. raise the dumbles as if you were going to throw them in back of you and at the top of the movement squeeze as if you were trying to crush a walnut between your shoulder blades.

Thats it!!


More questions shoot away bro. Peace
 
awesome post, thanks for sharing. i would love to be able to go train with one of the old school guys I grew up worshipping
 
thx needsize. I met his wife dogs etc... Was as personalized as you could get. The pictures on his walls were unreal. Never seen before candid pics of the old school BBers. I would and plan on going back to him next year.
 
Great stuff bro.................as for the delts, that would be undertraining for me....I need a few more sets, maybe some uprights too............
 
Its all good man. If you can take one item from my 3 days w/ Zane and have it be helpful Im happy. Peace
 
Come away with 1 thing???? Shit bro, I've learned a ton just from listening to you....mucho K.........one final note, did he train arms together? Do you? High volume? Just curious to how it looked............
 
As for arms I have to check back to see what we did. When he was training for the olympia his arm routine was obviousely more intense. However the basic premise of Time Under Tension applied. For example in the case of biceps he did something very interesting. We did standing Bbel curls w/ a straight bar. Normal tempo up, 4-5 sec neg on the way down. Then we supersetted standing dumbell curls. Here is what the difference was...

In a normal dumbell routine for bis one would lift one arm while the opposing arm was in a fully extended position then switch ( Alternate dumbell curls ) What we did was never have the non working arm rest. In other words while you extended one arm down for the curl, the other arm would be in a ( flexed position, slightly bent ). In essence you never took tension off your bis. You wanna talk burn, it was INZANE ( hahahaha ).

Jkurz, I dont know what you lift, but the arm workouts in particular were humbling. I curl the 60's-65's with very good form, or so I thought. Do curls the way I described, I had a hard time w/ the 35's.

I will dig up the arm routines and post it. Later
 
great thread punch, but im curious about one thing....what does he look like nowadays? still ripped? how about his weight?
 
Well at over 60 he looks great. Does he look like he did when he won the Olympia, NO. He is ripped and is still strong. One thing I took from meeting him is mortality. I often wonder if he has some personal demons. I mean could you imagine having your body admired by millions, being plastered on every fitness magazine, people gawking at you wherever you go!!! It must be tough to come to terms with. But, to have a man of his accomplishment share and give his knowledge( at a cost of course ) to others is what its all about.
 
punch said:
Well at over 60 he looks great. Does he look like he did when he won the Olympia, NO. He is ripped and is still strong. One thing I took from meeting him is mortality. I often wonder if he has some personal demons. I mean could you imagine having your body admired by millions, being plastered on every fitness magazine, people gawking at you wherever you go!!! It must be tough to come to terms with. But, to have a man of his accomplishment share and give his knowledge( at a cost of course ) to others is what its all about.
Punch what was the rest time between sets? how long were the workouts and what is the split which he recommends for off season?
 
Punch, do you have anymore training info from your sessions with the Legend??? I know ALOT of the current strength coaches advocate the Time Under Tension rule. Most notably, Charles Poliquin...
 
This week I will get the routine he provided to me and post it in its entirety.
As for rest between sets, not much at all. In fact many of his sets are super sets, which cut down both time and increased intensity.
 
This is a great thread Punch,..once again, Thanks!!

Would love to see ya post yer training journal on here!!...and lookin' forward to reading the routine in its entirety.
 
I love how everyone starts off by buttering him up, then continues to ask for more........geeze boys, the dude has posted almost his entire trip.............let him rest.........get yourself a girl that will buy you a trip..............lol
 
No worries man, If I heard someone trained with Arnold I'd be asking away also. Question is....Whats my wife gonna do for an encore. HEHEHEH
 
It is good to see that the master emphasizes the negatives, which to me are more important than the positives.

Thank you very much punch!
 
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