My Epistane Log starts today... 2/28

[turbo420a]

I'm a bit smaller than a lot of those I've seen logging Epi results so I think it will be good to see how it affects someone my size.

Current Stats:
Weight: 178lbs - 180lbs
Height: 6'
Build: Ectomorph
Age: 22

My Cycle is going to be a bit different from what I've seen done before in hopes to eliminate any type of estrogen rebound that may or may not take place regularly.

Epistane Cycle:

Supporting/Other supplements:
• Fish Oil (Twice Daily)
• AI Cycle Support (Twice Daily)
• Animal Nitro (BCAA’s)
• Whey Protein

Week 1
20mg/Day = 14 caps

Week 2
30mg/Day = 21 caps

Week 3
30mg/Day = 21 caps

Week 4
40mg/Day = 28 caps

PCT (still on Epistane, but down ramping)

*Note* - I may end up substituting Torem for Nolva before I make it to PCT.

Supporting/Other supplements:
• Fish Oil (Twice Daily)
• AI Cycle Support (Twice Daily)
• Animal Nitro (BCAA’s)
• Whey Protein


Week 5
30mg/Day w/ 10mg Nolva

Week 6
20mg/Day w/ 20mg Nolva

Week 7
10mg/Day w/ 30mg Nolva

Week 8
40mg Nolva

Week 9
30mg Nolva

Week 10
20mg Nolva

Week 11
10mg Nolva

My Routine:


I know I may be borderline over-training.. I've been told that a lot, but I'm going to stick with my normal routine throughout epi just to see what affects it has on my training. I'd rather over-train than under-train... whether it's smart or not..lol - I train 6 days a week, but never do cardio b/c I play sports routinely. I can list each exercise for each body part if anyone needs me to, but i tend to rotate exercises on most...

Shoulders
6 exercises

Bi's and Tri's
6 exercises each

Chest
6 execises

Back
4 exercises

Legs
5 exercises

Abs
3 exercises (2x a week)

Goals for Epistane:
-Gain 8 - 10 lbs, if I could make it to 190 I'd be extremely impressed, I'm a very hard gainer.
-Gain some size on my arms.. I hit them harder than anything but they're the slowest to grow!

If anyone has ANY comments/suggestions please feel free, I'm open to whatever including criticism... just make it constructive!!

Here's a few "before" photos (which is now).. Hopefully I'll improve considerably!! (I need some help.. but atleast im willing to admit it!)

Let the fun BEGIN!!

 

[turbo420a]

Day 1

Only took (1) 10mg pill today just to start my body off to epistane.. Today's workout was shoulders.. felt good even though I've had some shoulder pain recently.. Had zero pain tonight but hopefully that's because I've recovered. All around good workout.

Tomorrow I'll take (1) in the AM and (1) Pre-Workout (i workout pretty late). Will update again after tomorrow's workout....

Oh, and I verified my weight post-workout..... 180.6 lbs

I hope I'm getting enough calories... My total intake today was ~4440 Calories - 40% Protein / 33% Carbs / 27% Fat



Day 2

First Day at 20mg (2 pills)
-One at first meal of the day
-One an hour before working out

Workout was Bi's and Tri's...
-Per Shatfields suggestion I lowered my number of exercises on Bi's and Tri's. I did four exercises for each group instead of my usual six. It felt good, I tried to do heavier sets which worked well for me... I had a great pump on Bi's and I noticed the veins in the upper portion of my Bi's was out more than normal. Arms seemed "full" - Good Workout.

My Diet seems a little off..
-My main focus was cramming everything possible down, but I noticed it seems that although I'm not eating junkfood, the fats are still pretty high. Today's diet brokedown to: 35% Protein (376g) / 31% Carbs / 33% Fat - Total Calories were ~4472. If anyone would like to comment on this feel free.. remember I'm trying to bulk.

Today's Weight was 182 post-workout...
-Slight gain.. Prob contributed from eating so much more the past few days. But I'm not complaining!

Any comments/suggestions are welcome...

 

[turbo420a]

Day 3

It's final... Epi HAS KICKED IN...
I only had another 20mg today and my chest workout was phenomenal. Recently I've lost strength on my bench press b/c I've been hampered with a jacked shoulder, but today there was NO pain and I seemed to have gained some strength back. Flat Bench I did 10 x 185, 8 x 205, 7 x 215, and 6 x 225. I typically can't do that much back to back to back.. I wasn't even taking much rest between sets b/c I felt so pumped and ready to go. My lifting partner definitely noticed I was on something... I finished one and he said... Man WTF was THAT? LoL - And it was that way the whole workout! ...was like working out on pure adrenaline!

.......And this is ONLY DAY 3!!


The other thing I noticed..
Towards the end of my workout (on decline) when I felt as if I couldn't get another rep up, I would still get 3 or 4 more reps.. It's like when you're on "empty"... nothing left in the tank.. I'm able to "run on fumes" for much longer than normal... great feeling!

Post-workout Weight: 182 ---> Like I said.. I'm a hard gainer!

 

[turbo420a]

Day 4

Still at 20mg / day.

Today's shoulder workout was a step above usual..
I was fighting a bit of pain in my right shoulder, but was able to work through it. Strength was still up from normal for most exercises (press and every trap exercise). However, it was nothing like yesterday's chest workout which was through the roof!

I got my bodyfat measured today...
I'm setting at 9.9% - I'll test this again closer to the end of my cycle. It may not change too much since I'm actually trying to bulk and Epi has a tendancy to lean you out... but it'll be interesting to watch.

Postworkout weight = STILL 182

I didn't quite make 4,000 calories yesterday but I'll def hit the mark before bed tonight. I'm trying to make sure to keep my intake as high as possible.

 

[turbo420a]

Spring break trip... I'm leaving today (Sunday 3/4) for 1 week. I'm taking the laptop but I understand the place we're headed doesn't have wireless internet. Anyway, I don't know how.. but I'll find a way to keep this going. More importantly... they do have a gym so there won't be any lapse in my routine! You guys wil hear more in a day or two!

 

[turbo420a]

Day 6

still at 20mg / day.

Trained Biceps today... I was limited by the equipment but I still managed to get 4 sets in... Will hit triceps tomorrow. Calories are hard to come by.. I'm shoving down protein shakes left and right just for the extra little bit. If I had to guess I'd say calories were at about 3500. I had a nice full feelin in the gym.. muscles were full and tight from beginning til the end.

I was suprised I had as much energy as I did in the gym after a full day of snowboarding and playin basketball. I'm sure I can thank Epi for that! Still lovin this stuff.... !

Weight.... NO SCALE!! I'll do my best to find one tomorrow.. We're trying out a different gym tomorrow since the one from today was so limited.... Will update ASAP.

 

[turbo420a]

Day 7

Last night was Day 7's workout... We hit chest.

Energy/Endurance and strength was noticeably up.. I suprised myself a few times at my ability to finish sets. I'll be glad to get back to using better equipment but I'm still getting a great pump on less than a perfect training routine...

Weight = Still no scale!

I'll be back from vacation by Saturday/Sunday and I'll weigh immediately.

 

[turbo420a]

Day 8

FIRST DAY AT 30mg

Worked Back...

Only 4 exercises but strength was THROUGH THE ROOF! That and I've had a surplus of energy all day. I don't know if 30mg is a lot for me since I only weigh 184 lbs or what but it's a noticeable difference from 20mg. I can't WAIT to get back in my usual gym! Only two more days! I'm ready to tear up some weight!!!

 

[trez]

Thanks for the info, it's looking good!

 

[lanky]

I am on day 5 of epistane and do not notice anything. tried dosing on empty stomach, with food, and every variation of administration before and after meals. dosing is approx between 40-50mg a day. same weight, same strenght. i dont get what all the buzz is about with this product or if it even contains anything at all...btw.. the brand is spectra force research hemaguno....$55 down the drain

 

[turbo420a]

Hey guys... I'm finally back home from our Spring Break trip so I'll be getting my nutrition back on track and my training will be more intense as well since I'm back to my normal equipment....

The good news is..
After not being able to weigh for a solid week with poor nutrition and poor training (because of the horrible gym at our resort) I'm suprisingly still up a pound from last week. This is suprising because I'm typically a hard gainer / fast loser!

Weight = 185 --> I'm expecting this to really balloon this coming week!

The bad news is...
I have a very minorly "sprained" wrist... (snowboarding... just turned it wrong) I don't think it will effect anything but possibly my chest workout (pushing the bar up on presses). Hopefully it'll be healed in a few days and won't be a problem.

Today's workout was Bi's and Tri's...

Workout was great.. Strength is still up from normal. I seemed to have more fatigue than normal today though.. Muscles were kinda burning etc. I'm assuming its because i've had such weak workouts lately and today was getting back to the norm. Hoping for a KILLER week at 30mg!!!

 

[turbo420a]

I am on day 5 of epistane and do not notice anything. tried dosing on empty stomach, with food, and every variation of administration before and after meals. dosing is approx between 40-50mg a day. same weight, same strenght. i dont get what all the buzz is about with this product or if it even contains anything at all...btw.. the brand is spectra force research hemaguno....$55 down the drain

Lanky, sorry to hear that man.. I don't know what to tell you! You must not be on the same stuff as me!! You must be on something different from me... What's that about Spectra Force research hemaguno? That doesn't sound like what I have man.... And this stuff would definitely have kicked in by day 5.. and your dosages sound extremely high which also makes me belive you must be taking something different! Anyway, good luck to you...

 

[turbo420a]

Thanks for the info, it's looking good!

Thanks bro, I've still got a good while left too! I can't wait!

 

[turbo420a]

OK Guys, I'm back at school now... back crammin tons of food down and workin out with good equipment...

today's workout was Shoulders...

For the first time since being on Epi I felt like i wasn't on anything today... My strength wasn't really elevated.. I didn't have that feeling of "being on something" or anything... Really kinda weird. I didn't fatigue or tire out today though.. just felt like one of my good ol normal workouts...

I'm hoping tomorows will be better.... I don't know how to explain today's lack of intensity...

Weight = 183.6
Goal = 190
Time remaining on cycle = 2 weeks and 2 days...

Comments / suggestions?
I'm taking one epi in the AM and two before my workout...

 

[lanky]

Lanky, sorry to hear that man.. I don't know what to tell you! You must not be on the same stuff as me!! You must be on something different from me... What's that about Spectra Force research hemaguno? That doesn't sound like what I have man.... And this stuff would definitely have kicked in by day 5.. and your dosages sound extremely high which also makes me belive you must be taking something different! Anyway, good luck to you...

The product i am taking is called hemaguno, same chemical as epistane/ or havoc. each tablet is 12.5mg of 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol.

spectra force research is new to the industry (the company ,prob not the person in charge . based out of california.

 

[lanky]

i noticed when i first start to sweat during the begining of my workout i get itchy all over (a little similar to the feeling if you take niacin). have you noticed anything similar?

 

[turbo420a]

i noticed when i first start to sweat during the begining of my workout i get itchy all over (a little similar to the feeling if you take niacin). have you noticed anything similar?

hey man, i definitely havent noticed that... the only side affect i have experienced is a morning wood that wont go down!!! lol

 

[turbo420a]

STRENGTH IS DEFINITELY BACK...

After a disappointing shoulder day yesterday, "back" day today restored my faith... Not only was strength elevated but my endurance was way up... I'd feel myself finishing sets and even working past my intentions with heavier weight than normal...

Now for the best part...
Weight = 186.6
Goal = 190

Tomorrow is my 2 week mark!!!!! - That's 6.6 lbs in 2 weeks for a HARD gainer!! Now... could my remaining 2 weeks be even better!?!?!

 

[turbo420a]

Today's CHEST Workout was the best by far... My all time PR for bench is 275 and today nearing the end of my presses I repped 265 twice. It's been a long time since I've gotten 275 up too. (since my last test supplement almost a year ago). Since then my stength had slightly decreased but Epi is really helping me gain a lot back!

Endurance is up... I usually end on 225 like 3 or 4 reps but today 225 went up 7 times with no problem.. this is where I typically end my bench, but I felt like continuing today... Went from 185 x 10, to 205 x 8, 225 x 7, 245 x 4, 265 x 2 - I have a feeling by the next chest workout I'll break the PR of 275!

I'm eating really well since being back at school. I got about 4100 calories today at almost 40/40/20...

EPI ROCKSS!!! Didn't weigh today... but will make sure to again before the end of the week.

Sidenote:
I've got some bad stretchmarks on the sides of my chest from my first time running a test booster (bout a year back)... Well... The stretch marks are HURTING.. so I'm assuming that means I'm growing again... pretty fast too which is how I got them in the first place... Good in the fact that I must be adding mass, but who really wants stretch marks!!!

 

[jdubbster]

lanky-

I got the same thing ( epistane) ...ie ( hemaguno) supposedly...All the archives that I've researched on hemaguno relate it to be the same exact thing as epistane..yet through every thread that I've searched I've never seen anybody out there bashing the product with the same label name as ( epistane)...WTF? All I can say is the hemaguno makes me tired once I take it , and yeah I did get a bit itchy too...? Who knows maybe they put some poison ivy in there instead of the right components... I ditched the stuff and started taking some oxydrol instead...the ox works ....I'd be up for trying the product epistane with the the label epistane as well instead of hemaguno...For me , the hemo sucks

 

[turbo420a]

lanky-

I got the same thing ( epistane) ...ie ( hemaguno) supposedly...All the archives that I've researched on hemaguno relate it to be the same exact thing as epistane..yet through every thread that I've searched I've never seen anybody out there bashing the product with the same label name as ( epistane)...WTF? All I can say is the hemaguno makes me tired once I take it , and yeah I did get a bit itchy too...? Who knows maybe they put some poison ivy in there instead of the right components... I ditched the stuff and started taking some oxydrol instead...the ox works ....I'd be up for trying the product epistane with the the label epistane as well instead of hemaguno...For me , the hemo sucks

Hey Jdub, man that's really weird.. i haven't had the lathargy thing or the itching thing... really weird u guys had that.. On the other forum where I originially heard of Epistane I hadn't read any others with those sides either! You might be right about the other stuff you guys took instead of Epistane (even tho its claimed to be the same stuff)

 

[turbo420a]

You guys are gunna love this....

Sorry I hadn't posted since Thursday... I came home from school Friday night went to the gym like usual... only I played some bball afterwards with some friends... Anyway.. My luckyass ends up rolling my ankle, its either broken or severely sprain... I'm limpin my tail all over the place and haven't lifted since Friday... My ankle's the size of a baseball... and as colored as a rainbow. I haven't been checked out.. but I'm thinking its just a bad sprain.. I'm able to put weight on it, but I can't really move the joint.. it's all tightened up.

Somehow, I'm going to get to the gym this week and train through this.. I hate this had to happen during my 3rd week of Epi...

 

[lanky]

lanky-

I got the same thing ( epistane) ...ie ( hemaguno) supposedly...All the archives that I've researched on hemaguno relate it to be the same exact thing as epistane..yet through every thread that I've searched I've never seen anybody out there bashing the product with the same label name as ( epistane)...WTF? All I can say is the hemaguno makes me tired once I take it , and yeah I did get a bit itchy too...? Who knows maybe they put some poison ivy in there instead of the right components... I ditched the stuff and started taking some oxydrol instead...the ox works ....I'd be up for trying the product epistane with the the label epistane as well instead of hemaguno...For me , the hemo sucks

I am actually testing another product by spectra force research now, Oxyguno(11keto clostebol)..it has been 5 days and i do not notice anything,(actually lost weight)...Dr. D stated he is going to run some lab tests to find out if the product is bunk,,, i am 99% sure this product does not contain anything.

btw i am dosing almost double what the label reccomends..

good to hear more fedback on the product, i did not feel tired on the hemaguno or oxyguno.

 

[jdubbster]

I am actually testing another product by spectra force research now, Oxyguno(11keto clostebol)..it has been 5 days and i do not notice anything,(actually lost weight)...Dr. D stated he is going to run some lab tests to find out if the product is bunk,,, i am 99% sure this product does not contain anything.

btw i am dosing almost double what the label reccomends..

good to hear more fedback on the product, i did not feel tired on the hemaguno or oxyguno.

Well, maybe not that I'm noticeably more or really tired....but I just felt a bit slow right when I took the hemaguno... I took it for like 4-5 days ...It pissed me off and I had heard such great things that I said "hell no" and took it back to the store that I purchased it from. I've done superdrol, halodrol, pro-magnon in the past ( and the real stuff) ....The superdrol works...and I felt great on pro magnon.... I'm taking oxodrol-12 now which as you probably know lanky is basically superdrol ( +2mg) to be a total of 12mg of what the hell ever is in superdrol ( masteron) or whatever they are claiming... I'm pissed ....is this hemoguno and oxyguno just a bad product or is epistane really good at all?

 

[turbo420a]

Sup guys... I have a few comments for today...

Chest day.. Strength is REALLY up. I matched my previous PR of 275 (which I haven't got up in a LONG time). Last week thanks to Epi I got 265, now I'm at 275. I'm still itching to break the PR! I will say though... I didn't save my energy at all, I just tried it at the end of my regular sets... 145 x 10 185 x 10 205 x8 225 x 6 245 x 4 275 x 1. If I would've just warmed up and then maxed I would have probably been able to break it.. I might try that on my next chest day.

Now to the other info...

**Today is the first day of (almost 3 weeks into cycle) that I've experienced any shutdown.. I'll admit, I did take my final two tabs of Epi late last night (about 10:30pm) so that likely has something to do with it.**

 

[lanky]

Well, maybe not that I'm noticeably more or really tired....but I just felt a bit slow right when I took the hemaguno... I took it for like 4-5 days ...It pissed me off and I had heard such great things that I said "hell no" and took it back to the store that I purchased it from. I've done superdrol, halodrol, pro-magnon in the past ( and the real stuff) ....The superdrol works...and I felt great on pro magnon.... I'm taking oxodrol-12 now which as you probably know lanky is basically superdrol ( +2mg) to be a total of 12mg of what the hell ever is in superdrol ( masteron) or whatever they are claiming... I'm pissed ....is this hemoguno and oxyguno just a bad product or is epistane really good at all?

I have heard good reviews of epistane,,i cant deny that..just the epi clone hemaguno did not really do much for me, no weight gain,,maybe a little strenght,,itchy skin during begining of a workout,,that is about it.

i have been on oxyguno(17a methyl 11keto clostebol) for a week now and there is not even the slightest sign that this product contains anything anabolic.. i am at a loss of words.. i actually lost about 1lb

on the brighter side.at least my hair did not fall out like on 1-AD...

at one time i was looking towards purchasing the promagnon.

 

[jdubbster]

I have heard good reviews of epistane,,i cant deny that..just the epi clone hemaguno did not really do much for me, no weight gain,,maybe a little strenght,,itchy skin during begining of a workout,,that is about it.

i have been on oxyguno(17a methyl 11keto clostebol) for a week now and there is not even the slightest sign that this product contains anything anabolic.. i am at a loss of words.. i actually lost about 1lb

on the brighter side.at least my hair did not fall out like on 1-AD...

at one time i was looking towards purchasing the promagnon.

Lanky,
I can tell you this... I can tell you that I have tried winny and d bol and all the real orals. I took promagnon and there's something to it. You lose water weight and you get lean and hard. The stuff works , give it a shot.

 

[turbo420a]

The Good News from yesterday's workout....
1) Weight = 188.7lbs.. That's the most I've ever weighed in my life... Honestly couldn't believe it! Goal = 190 (1 week left on Epi).

 

[turbo420a]

Did shoulders back and traps today....

Strength was good... Kinda hard to judge since so many of my exercises require me to stand (which doesn't work to well with a sprained ankle) but all and all I felt good... Oddly enough I think Epistane may actually be making my ankle heal faster than it would have normally....

Weight = 188.2 lbs

Since I did so many exercises today I'm going to throw in an extra protein shake and try to get a little extra food tonight in hope that the extra calories I burned in the gym will be offset with more calories coming in...

I CAN'T WAIT TO HIT 190!! I'M SO CLOSE YET SO FAR!!!!!

On another good note... the boys are back.. Should I go to 40mg for my final week of Epi???????

 

[turbo420a]

Sup guys.... I broke my bench PR!!!

Unfortunately.. I didnt' break it by much... I got 285 "fairly" easy... but then went for 295 and i don't know what happened... kinda got off balance and well it just didn't work.. I feel like I could've gotten 290 but I never tried it... so 285 is my new PR... I may try again at the end of this week of 40mg and see where I'm at!

 

[turbo420a]

Arms day today... 2nd day at 40mg

Strength was incredibly up today... Curled more weight today than I think I ever have.. last set of straight bar curls was about 95 lbs... (good for me)

Last set of iso curls was with the 50's but only got about 6 (each arm) with good form...

All and all.. .I'm really bummed my cycle is about over... but I might be extending it by a week due to some PCT supps that are SOLD OUT everywhere I look.. anyway we'll see how it goes.

Current weight: 189... 1 pound away!!!!!

 

[truckdaddy]

Arms day today... 2nd day at 40mg

Strength was incredibly up today... Curled more weight today than I think I ever have.. last set of straight bar curls was about 95 lbs... (good for me)

Last set of iso curls was with the 50's but only got about 6 (each arm) with good form...

All and all.. .I'm really bummed my cycle is about over... but I might be extending it by a week due to some PCT supps that are SOLD OUT everywhere I look.. anyway we'll see how it goes.

Current weight: 189... 1 pound away!!!!!

good job boss!

 

[turbo420a]

Back day... I dropped Epi back down to 30mg / day in hopes I can make the bottle last me until my PCT supps show up.

Good workout today, back has really improved while being on Epi...

Weight = 188.7 - back up a bit which is good. I got 11 hours of sleep last night so I think that really helped after two nights of staying up and cramming for exams.

Other notes: I recieved my Mass FX, Hyperdrol, and Retain today... still waiting on torem to arrive.

 

[Crappiie]

anyone try this more recently? im on it now but dont feel much. anyone?

 

[yepp30]

I did 1 bottle of orastan-e (30days) then took 2 weeks off. then went straight to the epi. started with 10mgs per day, upped it 10 per day to 40 for 2 weeks then to 50 and 1 hemadrol for 1 week then 60 for 1 week then tappered down 4 per then 2 x per until gone. when finished with epi i started nov. xt while still on my last week of hemadrol then stayed with the pct for 5 more weeks.

I gained 19 pounds (275 to 294) and was stronger than hell. waist size remained the same. only downfall is most of it left by aug.

total used
1 bottle of orastan
2 bottles of epi
1 bottle of hemadrol
2 bottles of nov. xt

 

[artificialaspirations]

where's the after pics

 

[George Spellwin]

More information about epistane here:


http://www.evolutionary.org/what-is-epistane/