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My Controlled Delivery...LONG, full story

b22md

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WARNING:LONG READ....this is for those of you asking what really happens on controlled deliveries. my bust happened a few months ago, the first part of this is what i wrote from when i got home from lockup, so i didn't forget any details over time:

I was washing my car at approximately 11:00 a.m. when the postman (postal inspector) approached with a package. He asked if the address was **** and I answered yes and took the package. I set the package down in the garage area and continued to dry my car off. At this time unmarked vehicles swarmed the driveway, a black male got out of the car closest to me and asked if I was *****. When I answered yes he immediately handcuffed me and said I was under arrest for possession of narcotics and they had a warrant to search the premises. He the proceeded to walk me into the garage area while other agents entered the house. Moments later they came back out and said, "we're clear". I was then escorted into the house and sat down in the kitchen. I asked to see the warrant and the black male informed me that it was not my property, I didn't need to see it, and my parents would see it when they got home. They did not have a warrant at this time because a phone calls were being made to see if they had it yet. Also, other agents were complaining about the process of getting a warrant, saying that it took too long to get a hold of the judge in many cases. I was questioned about the contents of the package that was delivered and told them I didn't know. It was labeled as PC software, so I told them it probably was. I receive packages quite regularly, and explained the address didn't sound familiar but I do sign up to receive free items quite often. An officer then showed me two packages that had been stopped by customs and asked what I knew about them, and I told him I knew nothing about them. They asked me if I had any drugs in the house and I told him no. One agent began asking me for general information (name, address, phone # ect..) he was interrupted by a female officer because she wanted to read me my rights. Other agents were searching the yard and other rooms in the home. The officers again began to question me about the package, and trying to intimidate me. At this time a female officer opened the parcel and inside were 15 ampules of Sustanon 250 and one 10ml vial of Ketamine. They asked me what they were and by reading the label I was able to tell them the Sustanon looked to be testosterone and I didn't know what the Ketamine was. I was told I was a "low man on their totem pole" and they hadn't been very busy lately. They said if the drugs were for someone else, I should call that person and they would arrest him instead of me. I also was questioned about some of my old friends and they said they could make things a lot easier on me if I would sign up to be a confidential informant and help them make a few busts. I was also questioned about who was growing pot in the area. I told them I didn't know because I got myself out of that life many years ago. I tried to be helpful and told them when I was younger their were many residents growing in the town of ****, out of their juristiction in the next state. As far as things like heroin went I told them most of it was acquired from **** City. At this time another female officer was left to baby sit me while the officer who was questioning me went to search the vehicles including a sedan that it was later discovered was not on the search warrant. At one point an agent came out and said, "we have a whole pharmacy back there". They continued to badger me into cooperation and tell them about the drugs and it was at this time I invoked my Miranda rights. The black male that made the arrest said my mother was on her way home. Not much more was said and a little later the agents brought out two large paper bags, a desktop computer, and a 9mm rifle from my room. When an officer arrived to take me to the barracks I told the police to lock up my home and I was taken in. A female officer asked if I should stay until my mother arrived and the black male explained that he did not really call her. No one was notified of my arrest during this search and I was not able to call a lawyer when I requested, which I thought I had the right to do as an American citizen. The arresting officer even told me a lawyer couldn't do anything for except tell me to sit there and cooperate. He said I would have an opportunity to do so at the detention center.

well, thats how that happened. all in all, roughly 30 items were siezed from my home including, all computers, 2 guns, DNP (siezed by the FDA agent at my house), a bong, various legal pills and a cap-m-quick w/500 empty gel caps. i was charged with the following:

1. possesion of CDS, marijuana
2. possesion of CDS, not marijuana (sustanon)
3. possesion of CDS, not marijuana (ketamine)
4. posession of pariphenalia
5. posession of a handgun with obliterated S/N

i got a good lawyer and i had my day in court earlier this week. the state was looking for incarceration. the first plea bargain i was offered was plead guilty and go to jail (not much of of a bargain, huh?) of course i declined. i thought i had a decent case due to the validity of the warrent. on the day of the trial the states attorney took the arresting officers into a room and came out with a new plea agreement. drop 3 of the 5 charges, i would plead guilty on the sustanon and ketamine charges and she would ask for a suspended sentence. i decided to take this for the following reasons:

1. it assured me i would not recieve jail time
2. i was guilty, plain and simple and should be punished
3. if the warrent was legal, i had no case and would have gone to jail, it wasn't worth losing my job and having my credit go to shit.

in the end i got 18 months unsupervised probation, which my lawyer had adjusted from the original 12 months supervised set by the judge. i got 32 hours community service, a few thousand dollars in fines were waived, but mainly i learned a valuable lesson in,life.

BTW all this was done without being a rat, although i was pressured many times by various agencies. if you are going to break the law, be man enough to take what is coming to you


thats about it, if you guys have any questions i didn't cover, feel free to ask.
 
wow bro... that had to be rough, i didnt think theyd do much over a few test amps? Did u sign for the package when it arrived? if not how could they say it was yours? Your a good bro for not turning rat...later:p ;)
 
haxedout said:
wow bro... that had to be rough, i didnt think theyd do much over a few test amps? Did u sign for the package when it arrived? if not how could they say it was yours? Your a good bro for not turning rat...later:p ;)

no, i didn't sign for anything. it was addessed to me, and i'm sure they could retrieve the info off of my computer to prove it was mine.
 
Thanks for sharing your story. I guess it also points to keeping your house clean when expecting packages. Also, the ketamine probably didn't look to good. If it was only roids, maybe it would have been easier.

You must live in a small town.
 
Dutch windmill said:
Freaking story bro. I hope everything works out okay. What did they do with your computer?

D.W.


i got my computers back within a few weeks of the arrest. the police understand that computers are also used for everyday business, so they try to get those released as soon as possible
 
I've said this time and again, don't assume that a small amount of AAS won't be of interest to the cops. Especially where I live, it seems they don't have a whole hell of a lot to do, so small amounts are of interest to them. I have a question, was the search warrant signed by a local judge or federal? I don't understand how you could have been charged with possession of the items in the unopened box which was delivered by the cops. You never opened it, you merely accepted the delivery. It sounds to me that the warrant was anticipatory in nature ( cops anticipating you knew what was in the package and that you will actually open the box). I thought there was a not so recent ruling which concluded that anticipatory warrants were illegal.

I'll tell you one thing if you wanted to screw someone, just mail them a package of illegal goodies and they have no legal standing? This is bullshit. Was this an international delivery?

Sorry to hear about your troubles, good luck in the future.
 
jackfrost said:
. I have a question, was the search warrant signed by a local judge or federal.

Was this an international delivery?


it was signed by a local judge @ 11:30, and was executed at 11:00 prior to it existance. i would have fought, but if they established probable cause and extingency, i would have gone to jail, so i just went with the plea bargin

yes it was and international delivery, sent by the now scammer D&C Trading.
 
Thanks for sharing your story. All in all not that bad considering.
 
they had PC for the package, but not the house. You had no real way out exept for a better lawyer.

NEVER RETAIN A LOCAL LAWYER!!

NEVEER NEEEEVER!

they cannot, willnot pull out the stops like a slick out-of-towner.
 
Thanks for sharing your story! I'm surprised that they could do all of that to you without you signing for the package. These people will intimidate the hell out of you. They try to make it sound like if you rat out it will help your case. It is always wise to keep your mouth shut and not say a thing until you get your lawyer.
 
Excellent post bro!


If you had not accepted delivery from the Postman would they have moved in?

I gotta go home and clean my house, I'm expecting a package soon!

Did it make the paper? That's what I fear most, a small town knowing my business.

Was the postman acting strange?
All in all, how much did the lawyer cost?
 
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It sounds to me that the probable cause used by the cops for obtaining the warrant was based soley on speculation and anticipation. There were no exigent circumstances in this case whatsoever. My understanding of exigency means that if you aren't arrested/apprehended or secured immediately, something very bad is inevitable (ie. death, serious bodily harm, destruction of evidence related to a serious crime, etc.)

Screw the prosecutors, make them show in court that their evidence is legally sound. The first thing your lawyer should have done is file a motion to suppress the search warrant.
What's done is done, but in the future, as someone previously said, contact www.steroidlaw.com
 
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damn, glad that you didn't rat out anyone. Do the crime do the time, thats how i am. Good that you didn't get any jail time. Feds shouldn't be going after us, but damn terroists!! Was thinking about getting gear through the mail, but instead decided to bring it back from cancun last week. What a risk i took, but paid off. Play now, pay later.
 
Seems like a lot of crap for such a small delivery. I think you were on the local authorities list. It sounds like you have a background and you probably bought pot from someone locally. They were watching you and this order/delivery gave them what they were looking for. Did you bang one of the local cops' wife or something?
 
"I think you were on the local authorities list"

That was my first thought as well. How did they know you had something coming? Did somebody set you up? Have you had a seizure before? Did customs know to look for your addy or was it just a "coincidence"?

Sorry for all the questions, just sounds kinda strange that's all.
 
answers some of your questions:

69muscle: 1.yeah, it made the paper, just a small blurb and no mention of specifics. 2. no, the postman didn't act strange at all and 3. my lawyer charged $2500.

jackfrost: my lawyer filed a motion to supress the evidence, and Rick Collins was the first person i contacted. he is not licensed in my state, he could only act an advisor to my attorney. after speaking with him a few times, i felt it wasn't neccesary

Enigmaxxx7: i dont have much of a record, so i dont think i was on their list. they said themselves that things were slow. and i have'nt smoked pot for years, so i doubt a local dealer ratted me out
 
Re: "I think you were on the local authorities list"

daveyboy said:
That was my first thought as well. How did they know you had something coming? Did somebody set you up? Have you had a seizure before? Did customs know to look for your addy or was it just a "coincidence"?

Sorry for all the questions, just sounds kinda strange that's all.


they knew i had something coming because they were alerted by customs when the package was intercepted. i had previous orders siezed, so maybe there is some truth to the fact that customs flags addresses. also, i dont think anyone set me up
 
great post...

thanks for the post. i've got a few ?s

how did they try to intimidate you? did they ask you about any of your friends specifically or just if you knew any dealers in general? i know alot of times they will lie to you, tell you someone gave them your name so you get pissed and rat them out.

would you have been better off if you had remained silent and not answered any questions? i've always heard nothing you say can help you in any way. so the best thing is to request and attorney, keep your mouth shut, post bond and then talk after consulting an attorney.

without a confession, they dont have too much. hell, you could have pissed someone off and they decided to send illegal shit to your house. why the fuck would you order something you knew was illegal and put your real name on it? thats a reasonable doubt? at least enough of one to make the case not worth the da's time.

anyway, i'm glad you didnt get it any worse. and props on taking it like a man. you most certainly are.

in retrospect, what would you have done differently? (besides ordering from dc trading)

thanks bro!
 
Re: great post...

Immortal Juicer said:
thanks for the post. i've got a few ?s

how did they try to intimidate you? did they ask you about any of your friends specifically or just if you knew any dealers in general? i know alot of times they will lie to you, tell you someone gave them your name so you get pissed and rat them out.

would you have been better off if you had remained silent and not answered any questions? i've always heard nothing you say can help you in any way. so the best thing is to request and attorney, keep your mouth shut, post bond and then talk after consulting an attorney.

without a confession, they dont have too much. hell, you could have pissed someone off and they decided to send illegal shit to your house. why the fuck would you order something you knew was illegal and put your real name on it? thats a reasonable doubt? at least enough of one to make the case not worth the da's time.

anyway, i'm glad you didnt get it any worse. and props on taking it like a man. you most certainly are.

in retrospect, what would you have done differently? (besides ordering from dc trading)

thanks bro!

the intimidation was mainly them telling me that if the drugs were for someone else, call them and set up the deal, and they would let me go. (in reality i would have added distribution/poss w/ intent t omy charges) once you are arrested, only the states attorney has the power to reduce charges. they did mention specific names, including an old friend from this site, and the guy from the FDA specifically asked if i heard of elitefitness.com

i did remain silent, i was friendly with them but did not give them incriminating info. once you envoke your miranda rights, they stop questioning you.

things i would have done differently:
1. payed more for domestic:)
2. stayed natural...looking good isn't everything. i once thought it was until i stepped back and looked at everything i would have lost if i was incarcerated. my friends, family, job, cars, and i couldn't pay my bills and would have come out of the joint with nothing and bad credit on top of it.

it really is not worth it guys, i learned a valuable lesson from all this and i hope my post helps some of you think about the consequences invloved in placing an order for steroids. it didn't seem that bad to me at the time, i mean come on its only a cycle of sustanon. unfortunately the law views it as a schedule III and illegal...plain and simple
 
Re: Re: great post...

b22md said:
it really is not worth it guys, i learned a valuable lesson from all this and i hope my post helps some of you think about the consequences invloved in placing an order for steroids. it didn't seem that bad to me at the time, i mean come on its only a cycle of sustanon. unfortunately the law views it as a schedule III and illegal...plain and simple

Something to think about fellows...
 
I am glad i don't live in the USA, bunch of fuckin pricks out there. Fortunately i dont have to worry about all that shit.

Sorry to hear about your bad news bro.
 
jackfrost said:
I've said this time and again, don't assume that a small amount of AAS won't be of interest to the cops. Especially where I live, it seems they don't have a whole hell of a lot to do, so small amounts are of interest to them. I have a question, was the search warrant signed by a local judge or federal? I don't understand how you could have been charged with possession of the items in the unopened box which was delivered by the cops. You never opened it, you merely accepted the delivery. It sounds to me that the warrant was anticipatory in nature ( cops anticipating you knew what was in the package and that you will actually open the box). I thought there was a not so recent ruling which concluded that anticipatory warrants were illegal.

I'll tell you one thing if you wanted to screw someone, just mail them a package of illegal goodies and they have no legal standing? This is bullshit. Was this an international delivery?

Sorry to hear about your troubles, good luck in the future.

Its not whats in the box that gets you in trouble, its what they find in your house when they search it. Every single person I know who got caught having stuff sent to their house eventually had to plead guilty to what was in their house and had the charges concerning the contents of the package dropped.

Sending a package of illegal goodies to someone you dont like and alerting authorities may be probable cause to have thier house searched, but if they dont have anything illegal inside they probably wont get in trouble.

Plus 9 out of 10 people take a plea bargain and never go to trial, so they never find out if they could have gotten out of it or not.

Plea bargaining is like any other kind of negotiation. 12 months probation seems awful good after dangling a 364 sentence in front of you for a couple months. Just like $500 a month doesnt seem like a lot for a car when they were at $750 when you first walked in.
 
That shit sucks bro. Man, we live in a country that is more concerned with what we want to do to our own bodies than what other people want to do to our bodies. Fuck that!

To me AAS is like any other drug. We've all used drugs since our birth. I have been off and on acne medication since the age of 14 so is that wrong? Technically I wasn't sick, just had acne which is a cosmetic problem. What about all of the cosmetic surgeries out there now? Why is that not illegal? Diet drugs, etc? The pisser is they even let young people get surgeries like this who haven't even fully developed. No difference in my opinion. I love this country but this is the most screwed up policy I know of. The reason for classifying steroids with harder drugs was political in the first place which translates into total BULLSHIT! They need to reclassify AAS drugs and put the power back in the docs hands to write scripts. This way people aren't screwing themselves up and will get themselves checked regularly by the doc. This makes me wanna have my nips removed and buy a cattle ranch. I'm out before one of my vital organs bursts.
 
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If it were not for the ketamine you probably would have just received another seizure letter. I have had five seizure take place all at my addy. Needless to say I have gotten smart and do not have anything sent to me anymore.

They take things like "K" and Nubain very seriously. You have to remember AS do not get you High. 9 out 10 times that’s what they are after, anything that can get you high. What a strange Country we live in. We openly promote the use of Alcohol; probably the most destructive drug ever created, and lock people up for smoking marijuana. Which clearly is no where near as bad as alcohol. I hope that when the younger generation grows older and assumes control over the Goverment that we remember how fucking ignorant those who are in power now are.
 
LONE_AZ said:
If it were not for the ketamine you probably would have just received another seizure letter. I have had five seizure take place all at my addy. Needless to say I have gotten smart and do not have anything sent to me anymore.

They take things like "K" and Nubain very seriously. You have to remember AS do not get you High. 9 out 10 times that’s what they are after, anything that can get you high. What a strange Country we live in. We openly promote the use of Alcohol; probably the most destructive drug ever created, and lock people up for smoking marijuana. Which clearly is no where near as bad as alcohol. I hope that when the younger generation grows older and assumes control over the Goverment that we remember how fucking ignorant those who are in power now are.


That my man may be a long time coming. But at least there is hope.
 
LONE_AZ said:
If it were not for the ketamine you probably would have just received another seizure letter.

What a strange Country we live in. We openly promote the use of Alcohol; probably the most destructive drug ever created, and lock people up for smoking marijuana. Which clearly is no where near as bad as alcohol.

i completely agree with you on both points
 
Re: Re: "I think you were on the local authorities list"

b22md said:



they knew i had something coming because they were alerted by customs when the package was intercepted. i had previous orders siezed, so maybe there is some truth to the fact that customs flags addresses. also, i dont think anyone set me up

Anytime you have an order seized, it is wise to have your next shipment sent to an alternative address. When Customs makes a small seizure, they inform law enforcement at the town of destination. If you live in a big city, they don't give a shit, they are too busy. If you live in a small town where the cops just sit around eating doughnuts, they would enjoy busting you!
 
That's why we need a Civil Uprising against the Government. Too bad the U.S Military is the biggest in the world. It would be a hard battle for the civilians.
 
MegaBump: I realize the stuff you have in your house will get you in trouble, but if not for the search warrant (the PC of which is based on the contents of the package) the cops wouldn't be in your home in the first place and therefore wouldn't have located the other illicit items.

Trials cost money and time, the prosecutors will say anything to stay out of a full blown trial, which includes lying about what you will get (sentence wise) if convicted. In case you aren't aware, there exists sentencing guidelines. These guidelines are usually followed very closely, most of the time the defendant gets away with a sentence far less than the guidelines suggest. Furthermore, I would rather take my chances during a motions hearing to see what evidence will actually be admitted into trial, I can then confer with my attorney and make a well thought out decision on whether or not I'll plea to what the prosecutor is offering or force his/her hand at trial.

It really is unfortunate that we are not more educated about the legalities and ramifications of what we may get into. I have attempted to educate myself merely for self preservation, I also feel it is important to make others aware of what they may be facing if the law comes knocking at their door.

Lastly, there seems to be a trend particularly in the mid-atlantic states of overly zealous FDA agents who have contacts with local law enforcement agencies. It appears that the US Customs guys are handing over the "evidence" to these FDA chumps who then ask the local yokals if they'd be interested in following-up the cases. This is why there has been an increase in small amount seizures turning into search warrants and so forth.
 
Wombat said:
Did you plead guilty to a felony charge(ket) or misd?

none of my charges were felonies. i pleaded guilty on the 2 counts of poss. of CDS, not marijuana but the trial summary says i pleaded not guilty, i dont know what the deal is with that
 
Dude it sounds like you've been into more than just gear. That's probably why they were targeting you.
 
I love an intelligent post from someone who has been through these things. I appreciate you taking the time.

I would like to know how many people live in your town approx.?
 
thats what i was curious of.where you are from.if its a small town or a big city.i see that most people get busted out of small places with a small population
 
"The guy from the FDA specifically asked if i heard of elitefitness.com"

Keep that in mind fella's when your shootin your mouths off and to whom. It just may be the M*$%^%#!
 
This is a great post. I'm surprised no one has really discussed that this person was asked about elitefitness.com. What do you guys make of that??
 
hard as rocks said:
thats what i was curious of.where you are from.if its a small town or a big city.i see that most people get busted out of small places with a small population


my county has a population of just over 200,000, and my particular city i would have to guess to be MAYBE 5000 people.
 
sorry to hear youre story

I wish you luck ive been where you where it sucks , never have things deliveried to you, and keep in myne we are at war so to say and inspections are going to take place legal or illegal. God bless, keep youre head up youre not in prison!!!! And what ever you did or didnt do you can still see an breath the fresh air and go where you want when you want, K ruins lifes it stole a lot from me
 
Pat Mycroch said:
This may have been asked already, but how did they know what dnp was? Don't they need to take it to a lab?

the guy from the FDA had PLENTY of info about DNP.
 
Maybe if the Feds had been investigating the arab terrorists instead of you then 9/11 may not have happened.

I must say that I feel much safer knowing that a juicer like you is off the streets and not terrorizing the skinny guys in the gym :rolleyes:
 
Pat Mycroch said:
This may have been asked already, but how did they know what dnp was? Don't they need to take it to a lab?

For everyone's info, some DNP I ordered from England arrived yesterday WITH A CUSTOMS TAPE on it... they opened it and STILL let it go through, no caps removed.
 
WOW! We all really try to fool ourselves in thinking that we will never get busted! Jesus that is a bad story! Thanks for posting the info. It really makes u think!
 
I almost forgot to mention....

a HUGE thanks to my friend across the pond, bbigman2000, for sending the organon sus package insert that i used to show the judge the relative safety of this particular anabolic
 
most of the guys on here do not have there hands in all the shit that you do or did(as you said about your past)

They found marijuana---Ketamine---a hand gum---gear---and were looking for even harder things to bust you on.(as you stated0 they were asking you about H dealers etc.----And the fact that if you had ketamine, that shit goes hand in hand with XTC and GHB....your post is going to scare the reg. folk who don't have there hands in all the stuff you do and can not compare to what you were doing for the most part. Plus you said you live in a pop. of 5000 in your city(so you live in a ghost town) and they were basically looking for every drug under the sun because of your past record etc....Most guys on here have small amounts of gear at there place and thats it for the most part and would not be going through the same thing that you did.

I just wanted everyone to realize that this guy(no offense to you) was no angel in his town and they did not nail you for gear---that is just an extra they through on. No need to scare people here about such things.....I believe you stated that they asked you about dnp and elitefitness---but you didn't say that they asked you about GHB-XTC-or-tina(that doesn't make sense)and I don't buy it. I am glad everything worked out for you, its just to bad that gear has to get thrown into all of your other drugs because that is what gives steroid users a bad rap. Again no offense..peace
 
This cat lives pretty dam close to a large ass city...The city is known a the herion capital....more herion users there than NYC! Why would they fuck around with such a small fry.....I just don't get the authorities....
 
Wombat said:


They found marijuana---Ketamine---a hand gum---gear---and were looking for even harder things to bust you on.(as you stated0 they were asking you about H dealers etc.----And the fact that if you had ketamine, that shit goes hand in hand with XTC and GHB....your post is going to scare the reg. folk who don't have there hands in all the stuff you do and can not compare to what you were doing for the most part.

I believe you stated that they asked you about dnp and elitefitness---but you didn't say that they asked you about GHB-XTC-or-tina

i have'nt smoked pot in years, the marijuana found was trace amounts of residue in a bong. i was actually surprised when they found the bong because i forgot i even owned one. anyway, i'm willing to bet there are plenty of "regular folks" on this board that smoke pot occasionally and may have pariphenalia in their house. as for the ketamine, alot of sources have this on thier lists as their are a few who will say they use it for rest and recovery. again, "regular folks" may get k with thier gear orders.
the handgun i got in high school, and i agree most people wouldn't have in their house.

check your PM in about 2 min for an explanation on that second part
 
I didn't say these things to upset you but just to look at it from a diff---view----hell if I were a cop and I pull someone over and find K in his car, you can bet i would be drilling him on ghb and xtc. All I was saying is these things go hand in hand..(raves etc) maybe someone who reads this post and has never used K but gets some gear from his source will think twice about ordering any. Police do not like K --xtc--or G. when they saw the K in your box--my bet is that is what fucked you. peace--again no offense.
 
Burgboy said:
This cat lives pretty dam close to a large ass city...The city is known a the herion capital....more herion users there than NYC! Why would they fuck around with such a small fry.....I just don't get the authorities....

FYI...this is why they were asking me about heroin, i have no personal involvement in that shit. the fact is, heroin has really gotten out of hand around here.
 
u got it b22md.....drugs are rampant around here! Plus I have never seen a more fucked up city....its all ghetto! VD, murder, herion captital of the US!
 
ketamine is schedule 3 as are anabolics. if your caught with either, it's the same punishment under the eyes of the law.
 
super slappy sam said:
ketamine is schedule 3 as are anabolics. if your caught with either, it's the same punishment under the eyes of the law.

true, they are both schedule3 but as wombat said k is viewed in a much worse light than anabolics. most cops dont think steroids are all that bad. it is certainly not unusual to see a large, juiced up cop....but how often do you see a cop in a k hole?
 
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