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My beef with people who inject 4ad

You can start to feel like a pin cushion after a while but you get used to the injections. One advantage to the 4-ad cypionate is the greater half life which means you only have to inject once per week.
 
nsruffryder34 said:
For the first 4ad cycle in which the results are posted aove, I used th reglr 4ad without the cyp ester. I got 3 kilos of 4ad cyp from my supplier in china. I also got 3 kilos of 19nor cyp from china. When you buy it in bulk, it becomes very, very cheap.
My diet was good, but it always is, I was getting about 2g of protein per/lb. I started taking my 4ad cyp injections 5 days ago, I inject every 3 days. Im running this cycle for 6 weeks but I may extend it to 8 since the cyp ester takes longer to get sustained blood elevations. Im doing 300mg of 4ad cyp per inj.


Wow you bought 3 kilos of 4ad and 3 kilos of nordiol ? Thats 6 kilos you must be a millionare, doesnt a kilo cost a few thousand?
 
nsruffryder34 said:
Yea, it is much cheaper to get raw 4ad cyp than TA, I bought 3 kilos from china and let me just say that kilospors is making a fortune on there markup. I feel it is easily just as effective as TA, for the cost at least. I did another injec. today. When the cycle is over I will post stats and gains.

PS: gsxr1000, yea I had to stick myself everyday, its not that bad though, but it needed to be done since 4ad has a short h.l.


I will ask again because apparently you did not notice my question the first time around:

"How many milligrams of 4-AD cypionate were you able to dissolve per cc of oil? What kind of oil did you use? Did you use any benzyl alcohol or similar preservative?"

Thanks

Patrick
 
Pat, sorry I missed you qustion up at the top.

I disolved 100mg 4ad cyp per ml. I used the USP Oil from researchkits.com and I did use Benzyl Alc.(also from researchkits).
So far its going good, Im up about 8 pounds and the pumps have been good. Im estiamting it should really start to kck in around week 3 or 4.
 
nsruffryder34 said:
Pat, sorry I missed you qustion up at the top.

I disolved 100mg 4ad cyp per ml. I used the USP Oil from researchkits.com and I did use Benzyl Alc.(also from researchkits).
So far its going good, Im up about 8 pounds and the pumps have been good. Im estiamting it should really start to kck in around week 3 or 4.


First off you how much does a kilo cost?

Also in your opinion which did you liek better the cyp or the no ester?

hAVE YOU DOne real gear in the past?
 
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Mikeraz, I like the 4ad cyp better than te regular 4ad because of the fact that it can be injected less frequently. Kilos can range anywhere from a few hundred dollars up to $2000, itall depeds on how many kilos you buy, and the supplier you buy it from.
I have done AAS cycles in the past, and I will compare my results witht the 4ad cyp wehn I am done.
 
nsruffryder34 said:
Mikeraz, I like the 4ad cyp better than te regular 4ad because of the fact that it can be injected less frequently. Kilos can range anywhere from a few hundred dollars up to $2000, itall depeds on how many kilos you buy, and the supplier you buy it from.
I have done AAS cycles in the past, and I will compare my results witht the 4ad cyp wehn I am done.


How much did your's cost? Whyd you buy so much?

And your first cycle soudned good also
 
I bought the kilos because of the proposed PH ban, and it is also alot cheaper than buying in small amounts. My kilos cost around $1000 each, (im not going to say he exact price). I figure that most likely, unless by some mirace this ban is stopped, that PH's will be gone soon so I now have my stock up.
 
I had no problem getting Kilosports 4-ad cypionate into solution at a concentration of 150mg/ml using 3% Benzyl Alcohol and 17% Benzyl Benzoate. Unfortunately, Kilos material is on 93.1% pure.
 
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