My Beastrol/Helladrol Log is in here!

[ho_steppa]

I started my cycle today and plan to keep this log and post at least once a day to keep track of my lifts, diet, mood, reactions, and whatnot.

First of all, I am 31, 5’8”, 180lbs., 20% BF (I just got measured today, and I was disappointed, I thought it would be below 20!)) Training for over 10 years, only the last 2-3 years have I consciously tried to keep track of my diet.

These are my PR’s when I was closer to 200lbs and a lot fatter last year (October 2010):
Bench 275
Squat 315
Deadlift 335

I took a few month hiatus from the gym/diet (November ’10-January ’11) due to work/winter blues and started hitting it hard this past February. I lost about 20 pounds despite injuring my back about a month ago. I haven’t deadlifted since my injury and am too nervous to try to go too heavy on squats. I am not sure if I will incorporate deadlifts into my workout anymore and instead just continue focusing on pull ups and barbell rows. I failed benching 275 this week, too. I think a lot of these ‘roadblocks’ are mental and I’m hoping the cycle will help me break through them - I want to bench 315!!!

The cycle:

1-4 Beastrol 20/30/30/30
3-6 Helladrol 75/100/100/100
1-6 n2guard, forged liver, Bridge (double dosed until HCGenerate arrives)
6-12 Post cycle, Unleashed, forma, (probably continue HCGenerate/Bridge, add Phytoserms if needed…)
n2slin and gear throughout cycle

Needto approved the cycle as is. I’ve heard from others about adding a serm, or staying away from beast, not stacking beast since it is my first cycle. But since needto’s word is like God’s word around here, I am going to stick to this.

I try to eat clean 6 out of 7 days a week. Right now I am eating about 2100 calories on a 50/20/30 split, and I will increase this by 100-150 calories each week and possibly switch to 40/40/20. I tend to gain weight very easily, so I need to monitor this closely to not gain anymore/too much more fat.

 

[ho_steppa]

Today was legs…I’m not going to record every set, just my main lifts

Squat
95x12
135x10
185x9
225x8
275x6x5x5
225x10

Leg Press
Leg Curl
Seated hamstring machine – alternate legs
Calves


nothing spectacular, I got a decent pump from the n2kts (which I will probably drop next week)

legs have always been my weak point and I neglected them for years.

 

[ho_steppa]

Day 2 - Arms

Exercises
Close Grip Bench Press
95x12
135x10
185x7x6x6
175x7
155x10

Seated Tricep Extension machine
Reverse Grip Pulldown

Alternating DB curl
30x10
40x10
45x8x8x8

Reverse Grip Preacher curl with EZ bar
Alternating Hammer Curls
Cable curls (double bicep pose)

20 min. eliptical

 

[Stryker1992]

I started my cycle today and plan to keep this log and post at least once a day to keep track of my lifts, diet, mood, reactions, and whatnot.

First of all, I am 31, 5’8”, 180lbs., 20% BF (I just got measured today, and I was disappointed, I thought it would be below 20!)) Training for over 10 years, only the last 2-3 years have I consciously tried to keep track of my diet.

These are my PR’s when I was closer to 200lbs and a lot fatter last year (October 2010):
Bench 275
Squat 315
Deadlift 335

I took a few month hiatus from the gym/diet (November ’10-January ’11) due to work/winter blues and started hitting it hard this past February. I lost about 20 pounds despite injuring my back about a month ago. I haven’t deadlifted since my injury and am too nervous to try to go too heavy on squats. I am not sure if I will incorporate deadlifts into my workout anymore and instead just continue focusing on pull ups and barbell rows. I failed benching 275 this week, too. I think a lot of these ‘roadblocks’ are mental and I’m hoping the cycle will help me break through them - I want to bench 315!!!

The cycle:

1-4 Beastrol 20/30/30/30
3-6 Helladrol 75/100/100/100
1-6 n2guard, forged liver, Bridge (double dosed until HCGenerate arrives)
6-12 Post cycle, Unleashed, forma, (probably continue HCGenerate/Bridge, add Phytoserms if needed…)
n2slin and gear throughout cycle

Needto approved the cycle as is. I’ve heard from others about adding a serm, or staying away from beast, not stacking beast since it is my first cycle. But since needto’s word is like God’s word around here, I am going to stick to this.

I try to eat clean 6 out of 7 days a week. Right now I am eating about 2100 calories on a 50/20/30 split, and I will increase this by 100-150 calories each week and possibly switch to 40/40/20. I tend to gain weight very easily, so I need to monitor this closely to not gain anymore/too much more fat.

Looks good. You will be a lucky man to get your HCgenerate....

 

[ho_steppa]

Looks good. You will be a lucky man to get your HCgenerate....

Yea I can't wait! I just read the thread about the presale 1+1 and the extra gifts, too! unbelievable!!!

 

[ho_steppa]

Day 3 - Rest Day

Fasted cardio only
45 min jog, average HR: 150

Burn off some extra calories from last night's cheat, which consisted of:

-Baked chicken, skin and all, drenched in some sweet garlic/sesame type of sauce - at least it wasn't fried!
-2 grilled cheese sandwiches (made with Pam butter spray - they were delicious!)

 

[ho_steppa]

Pictures were taken after my fasted cardio today.

First one is relaxed, 2nd and 3rd are flexing.

I look like a hunchback in the 2nd one lol, I need to learn how to 'pose'. Not that I have anything worth 'posing'! Damn I'm a fatass! 20% BF, damn you!!!

 

[EarthRider]

I don't think you bf was measured accurately. Usually you don't see abbs til around 12 percent.

 

[ho_steppa]

I don't think you bf was measured accurately. Usually you don't see abbs til around 12 percent.

12% I wish! I was thinking maybe 17% Then again, even when flexing I can still grab a good amount of fat from my stomach. The abs in the picture are more an illusion from the poor lighting

 

[ho_steppa]

I don't think you bf was measured accurately. Usually you don't see abbs til around 12 percent.

12% I wish! I was thinking maybe 17% Then again, even when flexing I can still grab a good amount of fat from my stomach. The abs in the picture are more an illusion from the poor lighting

 

[ho_steppa]

*I was really looking forward to this workout and tried to do what I could the day before to ensure optimal results. Sundays are usually my all out cheat day where I don't keep track of anything, and as a result my Chest day on Monday sometimes suffers. So yesterday, I ate clean, upped the carbs a bit, stayed in, hoping I would blast through this workout. Well, this turned out to be one of the worst workouts I had in a while. I was slow, tired, yawning, (I could have fallen asleep on the bench in between sets! wtf!) I have a few theories as to why:

-didn't get good night's rest the night before. This is nothing new, though. I usually never get a straight 7-8 hours of sleep. Lately, it takes a while for me to fall asleep and once I am asleep, it is not a deep sleep, and I tend to get up at least twice a night to piss.

-The past 2 weeks I had been taking n2kts and getting a decent jump start with it. I decided to stop taking it today and restart during PCT. I have a high tolerance to stims, and was taking 2.5 scoops to get the 'pump' feeling.

-the Beastdrol. I heard lethargy as being a major side to this drug. Could it possibly be that? already? on day 4?! Also, I was SUPER TIRED for a few hours after my workout. This never happens. I am usually the most awake immediately after I train, but today I was just dozing off at my desk at work, doing the 'head nod'. I hate that feeling!

Anyways, I dunno what it is, the weight just felt 10-20 pounds heavier today and I felt like shitty weak sauce

Day 4 - Chest & Tri

Bench
135x12
185x10
225x6
245x2x2
225x6
185x10

Incline DB
70x10
80x8x8
70x12

Cable flies downward motion
Cable Flies upward motion
DB flies

Seated DB Behind the neck extension
single arm cable extensions - couple different angles

 

[Judo Tom]

I didnt really get tired with beast at all but i was bulking and eating lots of carbs and calories. Could be switching from stims or could be from the cheat day depending on what you ate and how you slept.

Im not a big fan of huge or crazy cheat days.. can definitely throw you off for a while. Just give yourself a day or so. eat good drink lots of water.

I would also look into why you are not sleeping well. that will definitely help the cycle.

good luck.

 

[superflex02]

at 20% you wouldn't be able to see any abdominal detail or many veins. If I had to guess you're under 15%. Keeping an eye on your logs, was curious about running beastrol.

 

[ho_steppa]

Re: My Beastdrol/Helladrol Log is in here!

I didnt really get tired with beast at all but i was bulking and eating lots of carbs and calories. Could be switching from stims or could be from the cheat day depending on what you ate and how you slept.

Im not a big fan of huge or crazy cheat days.. can definitely throw you off for a while. Just give yourself a day or so. eat good drink lots of water.

I would also look into why you are not sleeping well. that will definitely help the cycle.

good luck.

I heard alot of people/advice about upping the carbs while on beast. I've considered it and will slowly ease into it, thing is I gain weight too easily and I feel so bloated. I was struggling to get down 2200 calories today, which is still a bit below maintenance for me. I think part of the reason for the struggle was the tiredness I felt all day after my workout.

just popped a melatonin, hoped that will give me some good rest tonight...

at 20% you wouldn't be able to see any abdominal detail or many veins. If I had to guess you're under 15%. Keeping an eye on your logs, was curious about running beastrol.

man I seriously doubt under 15%, but thanks!! I take it as a compliment! But sitting down at the computer right now, I can reach down and grab a handful of stomach fat, I don't think that's 15%...

what's the best way to measure bodyfat? At my gym, there is one of these InBody Body Composition Analyzers

I step on a machine barefoot and grab these handles at my sides for about a minute, and the computer spits out all kinds of percentages and ratios. anyone familiar with this machine? also I got measured before my workout in the morning.

 

[ho_steppa]

Any experienced Beastdrol users out there?

The 27th is when I am scheduled to up my dosage of Beastdrol to 30mg. Right now I have been spacing out the Beast and cycle supports 4 hours apart, and Bridge about 12 hours apart like this:

9:00AM - wake & Beast

11:00 - workout

1:00PM - n2guard and liver; Bridge

5:00PM - Beast

9:00PM - n2guard and liver

12:00AM - Bridge

When I up to 30mg, should I take 2 pills at 9:00AM or 2 pills at 5:00PM, and what is your reasoning? thanks!

 

[superflex02]

Those machines aren't that accurate. The best way is to have a hydrostatic test done, you may have a local college that has the equipment to do it or maybe a sports medicine type place(you could ask around at your gym). You can get a very good idea with getting a pt(or someone) that knows what they are doing with calipers.

 

[ho_steppa]

-Today's workout was MUCH better. Comparing how I felt while doing last week's back workout (no Beast, only n2kts), I felt alot stronger today, and less exhausted/winded in between sets. Yesterday I was just downright sleepy and lazy doing chest. Today I was more focused, and felt I needed less recovery time.

-Definitely felt *something* working, but nothing too crazy, I wonder if this is the 'on' feeling I hear others talking about.

-Sleep was good last night, I think it was the malatonin I took, or the fact I was super tired all day yesterday. Went to bed around 1:30AM and was up at 7:00AM, in the gym by 9.

Day 5 - Back (no time for Biceps)

Bent over Barbell Row - Back parallel to ground, these were slow and controlled, tried to keep very strict form.
95x12
135x10
155x8
175x8
185x6x6x6
135x12

Bent over Barbell Row - Back at ~45 degree angle
185x10
225x10x10x10

Lat Pulldown
130x12
160x10
190x8
205x6x6x6

Reverse Grip Lat Pulldown (hands shoulder width apart)
160x10
190x8x8x8

Shrugs
225x12
275x12
315x12
365x8x8
315x12

Standing Straight Arm Lat Pulldown

 

[die faster]

i agree theres no way youre 20% bodyfat. i would say 16 17 most

 

[ho_steppa]

Wow, seriously all these peeps think I'm below 20%? in the teens, woohoo!! yea I know it's not great, but it makes me feel good to hear that. very encouraging guys! thanks.

Time to celebrate with a Big Mac!!! lol...

 

[ho_steppa]

Had another great workout today. Blasted through my shoulders and set a new PR on military press. I like how I feel focused and strong, but not the crazy jittery rush I sometimes get with stims (n2kts, EC)

Again, the weight felt lighter today and my arms weren't as strained from doing lat raises by the end of the workout. I love doing shoulders, I think they are my strongest part and always developed quicker than other body parts.

I upped my preworkout and postworkout carbs today also. Extra oats preworkout, extra banana and oats post workout.

Popped a melatonin and slept well last night, too. Had 2 sessions of at least 3 hours of sleep each, had to get up to piss once.

Day 6 - Shoulders

Seated Barbell Military Press
95x12
135x10
155x8
185x7
195x4 new PR woot! (help on last 2 - bar down to nose)
185x6 (help on last 3 - bar down to chin)

Seated Dumbell Press
70x7x7x7

Barbell Upright Rows - these felt super light
95x12
115x10
125x8x8x8

Front Lat Raises
Side Lat Raises

 

[ho_steppa]

To be truthful here, I lowballed my bodyfat back in my first post. The reading was actually 23.5%. I was seriously utterly shocked by that number. I had been dieting and cutting calories since February. I lost 20 pounds and kept most of my strength and to see my BF that high crushed me!

Anyways, the same trainer that measured me last week commented on how my body has improved alot lately. He did mention those machines are a bit off.

 

[ho_steppa]

Any experienced Beastdrol users out there?

The 27th is when I am scheduled to up my dosage of Beastdrol to 30mg. Right now I have been spacing out the Beast and cycle supports 4 hours apart, and Bridge about 12 hours apart like this:

9:00AM - wake & Beast

11:00 - workout

1:00PM - n2guard and liver; Bridge

5:00PM - Beast

9:00PM - n2guard and liver

12:00AM - Bridge

When I up to 30mg, should I take 2 pills at 9:00AM or 2 pills at 5:00PM, and what is your reasoning? thanks!

Bump to this..anyone???

 

[ho_steppa]

I took my time with today's workout, as I usually do when training legs. about 90 minutes, not including warmup and cooldown on a stationary bike. Felt good and strong throughout.

Last night, I went overboard on carbs with a mid week semi-cheat meal. Korean rice with veggies, pork marinated in spicy sauce, additional spicy pepper paste. Not the best nutrient sources, but at least it wasn't 2 Quarter Pounders. Anyways, I told myself it was ok since I was planning to go heavy on legs today, and I think I did alright, better than last week's leg workout for sure.

Slept ok. I went to bed at 12:30am and I woke up to piss. I felt like I was asleep for at least 4 hours, but it was only 1:50am! weird...

It's been 1 week on the Beast and I definately feel stronger and feel like I'm getting more looks and attention from peeps around the gym (maybe just my head tho, lol). I look and feel a lot 'fuller', especially in the mornings. I'm scared I'm gonna wake up with bitch tits, no balls and a face full 'o acne!!

Tomorrow I will up the dosage to 3 pills, and still not sure where to add the 3rd one in. 2 in the am upon waking, or 8 hours later on in the day after my workout...

Day 7 - Legs

Squat
135x12
185x10
225x8
275x6
295x5x5x5
275x6

Lying Leg Curl Machine
Abductor Machine

Front Squat on Smith - ATG
135x10
185x8
225x6x6x6

Standing Calf Raises

 

[CoBra666]

u know whats funny, i look just like u body wise and those fucks at world health said i was 24.5% bf. then they were like yeah we are +-7% accuracy. im gueeins ive helped u a bit in the other thread but since im subbed here now ill do my best. all i can say is watch for liver kidney discomfort once u add in hella. i had that 2 for my 2 weeks where i mixed them. i did weeks 1-4 beast 3-8 hella. i could feel them but i just dealt with it. this was also before n2guard i just used a liv supp with cranberry extract. and fyi i hope ur not an ill tempered person. i like to fight, ive trained relatively extensively. i mean im no gsp or silva, but ive done it for years. and those two with my fiery temper and liking to fight did not mix!!!

 

[CoBra666]

i tired to read as much as i could, reading alot angers me lol. keep it up. how much have your lifts gone up for bench, deads, squats??

 

[Acesopro]

Most bodyfat measurers are inaccurate unless they are using calipers.

I ran a similar cycle as you OP but I was running 500mg of Test-E for 12 weeks. First cycle.

Beastdrol gives very nice pumps though..

Dosage for 3 pills for me was 1 in morning and 1 mid-day, and 1 pre-workout which was around the evening.

 

[ho_steppa]

i tired to read as much as i could, reading alot angers me lol. keep it up. how much have your lifts gone up for bench, deads, squats??

that part made me lol!! thanks for your .02, and yea I totally understand how it's gonna be different for everyone - reactions to drugs, sides, optimal timing of pills, blah blah. But it's still good to hear from someone who ran a similar cycle. so you stayed on hella for 6 weeks, then? I'm really enjoying the pump and strength from Beast right now, can you go into differences in how you felt from Beast compared to Hella? I'm still a bit worried the BEast/Hella combo is gonna be too harsh since this is my first cycle of anything.

I had a really bad bench day this week on Beast. I was so tired in the gym and the weight felt extra heavy, I was fine every workout since then, tho with steady increases in strength and pump. But everything else has been going up!

 

[ho_steppa]

Most bodyfat measurers are inaccurate unless they are using calipers.

I ran a similar cycle as you OP but I was running 500mg of Test-E for 12 weeks. First cycle.

Beastdrol gives very nice pumps though..

Dosage for 3 pills for me was 1 in morning and 1 mid-day, and 1 pre-workout which was around the evening.

I've heard enough about those damned machines, never again!!!

and yea, Beast has been treating me good so far =)

I took 2 in the am today, 2 hours before my workout, and felt awesome! 1 more to go later today. But I think I might spread the 3 pills out evenly like you on rest days just for balance sake.

 

[ho_steppa]

*I upped my dosage to 30 mgs today. I took 20 mg upon waking and ate 30 minutes later - extra oats, extra egg whites. In the gym about 90 minutes later for arms. Another great workout, felt like a Beast!!! Set some more PR's and put up weight I never did before, and we all know how awesome a feeling that is!

*I brought an Ass Lightning with me to work in case I get super lethargic and start nodding off, but so far so good.

Day 8 - Arms

Straight Barbell Curl
45x12
95x10
115x6x6x6 - PR

Straight Barbell Curl - Reverse Grip
It feels weird doing these, I feel it in my forearm, but it feels like I'm doing a restricted hanging clean

Hammer DB curl
30x10
40x10
50x10x10x10

Close Grip Bench Press
45x15
135x12
185x10
205x6x6x6 - PR!

Cable Pushdown - Triangle bar

Weighted Dips
Body weight x 15
~50x10 (45pound plate + Inzer belt + chain - had to improvise since gym doen't have proper weighted dip belt)
~75x6x6x6

EZ Bar 21's - last 10 minutes in gym, supersetted with decline situps, no rest - usually arms are fried after an arm workout, but these were super easy light
50
60
60

 

[CoBra666]

I think if I did 2 and 1 I'd take it preworkout. Although like I said I don't know if higher doses are better at night while ur sleeping. I've never got a straight answer bout this. But I know who to pm so I'll do that after the weekend. I'm on a trip for my anniversary. I dont recall feeling anything special on hella. Beast I always felt zoned in and ready to kill. Lethargic a bit and hard time eating. The hella I felt pretty normal tbh. It was a little disheartening and unmotivating but in the end beast gave me some good size but the hella did recomp me very nicely and cut me up afterwards. So still good results just after taking beast and really feeling it I was disappointed not feeling it with the hella. I'd really like to try katana. I've got a few of them. Gonna run a solo cycle first on that methadrol stuff. Katana is s straight up cutter.

 

[ho_steppa]

I think if I did 2 and 1 I'd take it preworkout. Although like I said I don't know if higher doses are better at night while ur sleeping. I've never got a straight answer bout this. But I know who to pm so I'll do that after the weekend. I'm on a trip for my anniversary. I dont recall feeling anything special on hella. Beast I always felt zoned in and ready to kill. Lethargic a bit and hard time eating. The hella I felt pretty normal tbh. It was a little disheartening and unmotivating but in the end beast gave me some good size but the hella did recomp me very nicely and cut me up afterwards. So still good results just after taking beast and really feeling it I was disappointed not feeling it with the hella. I'd really like to try katana. I've got a few of them. Gonna run a solo cycle first on that methadrol stuff. Katana is s straight up cutter.

this pretty much sums up how I have been feeling, too. And that's too bad to hear about the Hella. After a cycle like this and putting on all this extra weight, a solid cutting cycle would be nice. I usually do an EC stack (Bronkaid), but I think I'm gonna either look into the new ephedrine site needto's been promoting or a katana cycle

 

[ho_steppa]

I slept in and took the day off from the gym today. Stayed in bed till well past normal and was really feeling the laziness getting out of bed and slowly starting the day. I'm usually really hungry in the morning, but I had no appetite, had to force down the oats and egg whites. I was feeling kinda slow all day and had to drink coffee to bring some life into me

In other news, I've gained about 5-6 pounds, but I went down a notch in my belt! Oh, and this being an off day (I just did some cardio, tho) I spaced out the 30mg evenly throughout the day, about 7-8 hours apart.

Day 9 - Off day/cardio only

50 minute night jog, average HR: 125

-kept at a nice slow pace, had to stop to walk a few times to lower my HR a bit. I could feel the extra weight weighing me down as I jogged

Diet
1 - oats/egg whites
2 - chili/tilapia/chicken
3 - turkey burger/whole grain bread
4 - tilapia/chicken/whole grain bread
5 - whey/banana
6 - top sirloin/whole grain bread

2340 calories
247g protein
221g carbs
54g fat

I might munch on a better protein bar before bed

 

[ho_steppa]

Went to the gym for Chest today, so I took 20mg Beastdrol when I woke up (about 2 1/2 hours before I started lifting). Gym was empty except for a few old folks and female trainers (no spotter), so I reluctantly went to the Smith machine to bench.

Today's Chest workout was MUCH better than last week's, but nothing I haven't done before in the past

Chest days are really starting to frustrate me. I feel like I've been stuck for so long now and should be able to bench more. So I am considering switching to more of a Chest focused program for a few weeks, doing like a 5x5 flat bench twice a week or something, instead of completely exhausting my chest in 1 day. I should look around the weight training forums here

Day 10 - Chest

SMITH Barbell Flat Bench
135x12
185x10
225x8
275x4x2
265x4
245x6
225x8

Incline DB
70x12
80x10
90x10
100x6
100x3
90x6 70x8 55x12 - drop set, no rest

Machine Fly

Overhead DB Extension, elbows locked - Lying on Bench (I have no idea what these are called!!)

30 min. elliptical

Diet
I was really lax with my diet today, since it is the weekend and all. I don't know where to start at counting some of these dishes so I saved myself the headache and didn't. I just made sure to add extra chicken and tilapia to whatever I ate!

1 - oats/egg whites
2 - whey/banana
3 - turkey burger/egg whites/whole grain bread
4 - beef curry/tilapia/chicken
5 - korean rice/marinated pork/veggies/tilapia/chicken

snacked on: granola bar/sugary sweet potato chips/ice cream sundae/random cookies

???? calories
at least 250g protein

 

[ho_steppa]

Boy was I tired this morning. I couldn't get out of bed, super lethargic, there was no way I could have made it to my morning workout. So I treated it as an off day. I felt better as the day progressed and decided to try to get my training in at night, after work. I haven't trained at night in quite a while so I was a bit nervous how my body would react. I was actually pretty pumped up by the time I started lifting and had a great back workout.

Day 11 - Back

Wide Grip Pullups
Bodyweight x12x10x10x10 - I haven't been able to do sets of 10 of these in years, back when I was weighing 150ish. At 180+, I could usually do 1 set of 10 and then pyramid down to a few sets of 6. Felt beastly doing these with such ease today

Barbell Row - Back parallel to floor
95x12
135x10
185x10
205x6x6x6

Dumbell Row - Alternating arm
80x10
100x10x10x10 - 100's are the heaviest the gym has =(

Reverse Grip Lat Pulldown - hands shoulder width apart
130x10
160x10
190x6x8x10

Standing Straight Arm Lat Pulldown

Diet
1 - oats/egg whites/whey
2 - chili/tilapia/chicken
3 - curry/tilapia/chicken (hard to count macros in curry)
4 - turkey burger(forgot to bring bread!)
5 - banana/whey (pre workout)
6 - banana/whey (post workout)
7 - top sirloin/whole grain bread (eating now)

about 2700 calories
~300g protein
~250g carbs
~60g fat

I feel HUGE eating all this food (not huge in a good way, in a fat gluttonous way!)

 

[Acesopro]

Lol 2700 is around my cutting calories and I feel so hungry.

 

[CoBra666]

yeh 23-2700 is pretty low. and i did like the hella for the effects it had on my body thruout the cycle, just couldnt feel it. maybe low androgenic number?? keep it up bro, dont miss any workouts. dont forget ur asslightning on those days

 

[ho_steppa]

seriously?! low? I gain weight so easily and my metabolism is super slow, so I'm really hesitant to increase my calories by too much. I've got 2 tubs of Universal Real Gains (600 calories, 53g protein/84g carbs/6g fat) collecting dust around here, I might have to throw this in my diet somewhere.

cobra, I wanted to ask you how you dosed the beast and hella during the weeks you stacked them? If I take 2 Beast in the am and 1 pm, do I just take the helladrol together with the beast? or space them apart a few hours? Thanks man. I'm trying to stay motivated not to miss any workouts and not have any detrimental cheats!

 

[CoBra666]

yeah id say its low. i cut at about 2200 cals. have u ever checked your bmr number? for bulking i dont count cals. i just eat clean and eat all day long. but i mean respond to what ur body tells ya. if u are that sluggish id add some carbs in there, i would have bulked on beast and then did body recomp on hella. and yes i took them a few hours apart. thats alot of liver toxicity to take all at one time. cant remember if ur running n2guard or a liv supp, if i look at page 1 ill have to re-write this crap, but if ur just on a liv supp add in some cranberry extract while ur on both supps

 

[ho_steppa]

I just checked using an online calculator, I have to eat 2890 calories to maintain my current weight (~187). Aside from a minor cheat maybe twice a week, I don't think I am eating nearly this many calories yet continue to gain weight. (Remember, my metabolism is super slow and I gain weight very easily) Which makes me question my method of measuring the food I eat. For example I weigh my meats after I cook it, so there is a huge difference in raw weight vs. cooked weight, which I'm sure you know already since that topic has been beaten to death (still no clear answer on which method is right, tho, cooked or raw? your thoughts?

I wasn't planning on bulking during Beastdrol, but it seems like that is what it is turning into! lol, so I'm gonna up the calories until I am running helladrol solo and cut back down a bit to recomp. And I am running both n2guard and forged liver, will add the HCGenerate and take out Bridge once I get it.

 

[ho_steppa]

Did my training at night again, I think I'm starting to prefer this, so I might switch to PM for a while. I was a bit tired until one of the trainers pissed me off which got me fired up and gave me a decent pump throughout the workout, lol! I should thank him!

Definitely ate over 3000 calories today, but about 800 of those calories came from a post workout gainer shake, which was absolutely delicious! I think the mass I've been putting on is noticeable, shirts are feeling tighter. I wore a shirt I dry cleaned a few months ago, but haven't worn since. Shit was tight and I almost hulked out of it at work today. but I feel like I should be pressing more! I've been doing this weight for quite a while now, even though it's been about 8 months since I did standing military...patience...

Day 12 - Shoulders

Standing Military Press
45x15
95x12
135x8
155x5x5
145x6x7
135x6

Behind the Neck Smith Press (seated, no back support)

95x10
135x6x6x6

DB Front Lat Raises - alternating arms
20x10
30x10
40x10
50x10x10x10
40x12

Barbell Shrugs

225x12
315x10
365x10x10x10
315x20

Diet
1 - oats/egg whites/whey
2 - chili/tilapia/chicken
3 - curry/tilapia/chicken (hard to count macros in curry)
4 - tilapia/chicken/whole grain bread
5 - banana/whey (pre workout)
6 - Post WO Gainer Shake (Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries/Natty Peanut Butter)
7 - top sirloin/whole grain bread (eating now)

well over 3000 calories
~330g protein
~300g carbs
~70g fat

 

[CoBra666]

simple things can up cals, use milk instead of water in shakes, etc try lowering your reps i do a 5x5. 53 reps of standing military press is alot. once you get to a weight goal ur happy to be pushing then try and start focusing on rep numbers goin up

 

[CoBra666]

i guess that depends on goals to tho. u didnt really post what ur aiming for unless its somewhere in the middle. if u want a bit of size and strength lower your reps and u will be upping your weights.

 

[ho_steppa]

i guess that depends on goals to tho. u didnt really post what ur aiming for unless its somewhere in the middle. if u want a bit of size and strength lower your reps and u will be upping your weights.

I don't really have a set goal of this cycle, it's my first time so I guess I'm just getting a feel for this kinda stuff and seeing if it's for me. I posted earlier this is turning out to be a bulk even though I didn't really mean to, which is fine after coming off 3-4 months of eating below 2000 calories/day, as long as I keep it clean and don't gain all the fat back!

I want to maximize the strength gains obviously, I was hoping to bench 315, but that's not gonna happen! So I am considering switching to a 5x5 type of strength program - bench (twice a week), standing military, squat, barbell row, pullups (still hesitant to deadlift cause of back injury)

I should have planned out my training better, lol! I was so focused on researching and getting all the pieces of the cycle together, and still working on diet, too, that I neglected the training part. live and learn...=)

 

[CoBra666]

yeah mate, its a never ending thing about learning. although its a beginner 5x5 rippetoes is compirised of pretty much those exact workouts. add in some assistance work for chest and tris on the bench days, shoulder and bis/back on overhead press/bb row day. throw in a 5x5 for pullups on which ever workout, let say A, then maybe a bb curl on the B workout for some vain muscles. when i hurt my back i started with light weighted situps and hyperextensions and a twisty hyperextension thing for obliques. i trainewd them every other day too. and as i felt comfortable i kept upping the weights. i started off light in january with my rehab (rehab was mostly plank and hippy stuff to start with, didnt last long) by april i was going pretty heavy and now i dling again. not overdoing it atm. only 225 lbs right now pretty easily. will keep upping the weights every week by 5 pounds or so (if theres no setbacks anyways) unless i switch up my routine here right away to a cutter. my goals are to be at bench 225, squat 315, dl 315 at about 165-170 pounds. lol i know, small. then consider a bulk after that. im not far from my weight goals with the exception of DL, its just getting back to 12 or so %bf

 

[CoBra666]

how come needto recommended beast/hella instead of beast/katana. i dont want to question him as he knows more than all of us combined here im sure. was just curious about that

 

[ho_steppa]

Another night time workout, my body is responding well to the switch. I sleep better at night and wake up feeling more rested. Lethargy has not been an issue either these past few days, just need a little morning coffee to get me going. My weight has stayed the same for a few days now, too, right around 187

Did legs today, and tried to keep it heavy and in the lower rep range. I failed on one of my sets and had to drop the bar, pretty embarrassing.

Day 13 - Legs

Barbell Squat
135x10
185x8
225x8
275x6
315x5x3x1 - failed on last set trying to get 2nd rep in, luckily didn't hurt myself!
275x4

Lying Leg Curl Machine
Leg Extensions - did the entire stack of weight and added a 45 pound plate
Standing calf raises
Abductor machine

Diet - pretty much the exact same thing as yesterday
1 - oats/egg whites/whey
2 - chili/tilapia/chicken
3 - curry/tilapia/chicken (hard to count macros in curry)
4 - top sirloin/whole grain bread
5 - banana/whey (pre workout)
6 - Post WO Gainer Shake (Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries/Natty Peanut Butter)
7 - top sirloin/whole grain bread (eating now)

well over 3000 calories
~330g protein
~300g carbs
~70g fat

 

[ho_steppa]

how come needto recommended beast/hella instead of beast/katana. i dont want to question him as he knows more than all of us combined here im sure. was just curious about that

He didn't recommend the Beast/Hella combo. I pieced the cycle/PCT together from similar threads here, and sent it over to him, and he gave his approval. In terms of goals, all I said was that I wanted to increase muscle hardness and vascularity. I originally planned to do just a Helladrol cycle and then learned more about Beast and both appealed to me. I should research more into Katana.

Anyways, good luck on reaching your goals, too!

 

[ho_steppa]

I was running a bit late, but managed to squeeze in a quick arm workout last night. I wish I had more time but the gym closes at midnight. I exhausted my triceps by the time I did dips, so I couldn't get too many in. Next time, I will try to start off with weighted dips and see how much weight I can add.

Day 14 - Arms

EZ Bar Skull Crushers - not sure how much EZ bar weighs, 20~25 pounds
Bar + 25s x10
Bar + 35s x10
Bar + 45s x6x6x6

Seated DB Behind the Neck extension
55x10
80x10
90x10
100x6x6x6

Weighted Dips
Bodyweight x 12
+50 pounds x 10
+75 pounds x 6x1 (failure on last set)
+50 pounds x 6

DB Curls
30x10
40x10
50x10
55x8x8 - the next weight increment the gym has is a 70, which is kinda annoying

DB Hammer Curls
35x10
45x10x10x10

Diet is the same as yesterday and the day before that.

*This is also the end of 2 weeks running Beast solo. Starting tomorrow (well, today) I add in Helladrol.

so Week 3 looks like this:
30mg Beastdrol each day
75mg Helladrol each day

I already took my first dosage. I took 10 mg Beast and 25mg Helladrol together. I will take them together, 3 times a day, but keep each dosage at least 4~6 hours apart. I'm only doing this because I'm treating today as an off day. I might do some light cardio and abs at night, tho.

On training days I might take 1 Beast and 1 Hella in the morning, and then 2 Beast and 2 Hella 1 hour before I workout. Is this too much at once, or should I continue to space them out more? hmmm...

 

[ho_steppa]

Took the day off from the weights, and instead did some really light cardio outside. Came back in and decided to try one of those insanity ab workouts. Didn't go too well, not sure if it's cause my abs/lower back/core are just plain weak, or the fact that I'm on an oral steroid! I just kinda half-assed it and then stopped it about 3/4 through. I got a good sweat going and put in a decent amount of effort, I just couldn't do each exercise for the entire alloted time.

I got a few packages from NTBM today. Finally received the HCGenerate I preordered (3 ordered + 3 free!) so I'm gonna add that in tomorrow and take out Bridge. I didn't get any free Ass Lightning or Better Protein Bars in the box, tho, so I'm gonna have to see what's up with that =(

I just took my 3rd and final dosage of 1 Beast and 1 Hella for today. Didn't feel any different today. No lethargy, no aggression, and I still have yet to know what a 'back pump' is. I can't wait to hit he gym tomorrow~!

Day 15 - Light cardio and abs

40 minute stroll - average HR: 92 - lol!

Insanity Ab workout - failed!

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites
2 - chili/tilapia/chicken
3 - oats/tilapia/chicken
4 - Better protein bar
5 - banana/whey
6 - Post WO Gainer Shake (Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries/Natty Peanut Butter)
7 - top sirloin/whole grain bread

~2800 calories
~280g protein
~252g carbs
~78g fat

 

[CoBra666]

insanity is fuckin hard dude, damn good workout tho. prob cuz ur on cycle tho. i know i cant go up a flight of stairs when on. i dont really get much for sides either. maybe a headache but i get those when im nt cycling. consider that a good thing. sweet deal tho with the 3 free hcgen dude. keep up the hard work. lol minus today

 

[Spades24]

Why is every post by cobra blocked out with that platinum members OWNED pic?

 

[ho_steppa]

lol. no clue!

 

[CoBra666]

cuz someone thinks there funny. it only lasts a couple of hours till i can defuse the bomb someone got me wit. bombs are for goofin around. they lower karma black out shit like that,

 

[ho_steppa]

ahh, so that's what a bomb is. I read about those, did you piss someone off?!

 

[ho_steppa]

I took 1 Beast and 1 Hella when I woke up. About 7 hours later I took 2 Beast and 2 Hella together, 30 minutes before I started training. I was nervous about taking such a big dose at once, but I'm still alive to write about it!

I'm changing up my workouts a bit for the next few weeks, focusing on staying in the lower rep range for chest. Flat Bench will be my main chest exercise and I will aim for 5x5 ~ 4x4, at least twice a week. I did this Chest program last year while bulking on Animal Test/Stak and got some decent gains on the Bench. More details will be in the actual exercise logs, but pretty much looks like this:

Day 1 - Chest/Delts
Day 2 - Back/Biceps
Day 3 - Rest
Day 4 - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps
Day 5 - Legs
Day 6 - Rest
Day 7 - Rest

One thing I've noticed while on cycle is the recovery time after workouts is very quick. I am not sore at all the following day (even after training legs) So, I will try to train chest every other day. I don't think I will overtrain Chest since I am only doing flat bench. On the otherhand, I am going heavy, so I might strain myself. I will take it day by day and rest when needed.

Day 16 - Chest/Delts

Flat Bench - slow and controlled, pause at chest, no bouncing bar, butt on bench
95x10
165x8
205x6
*working sets*
235x5
240x5
245x5
250x4
245x4

Machine Fly - really forced the squeeze on each rep
FST-7

Side Lat Raises
30x10
40x10
50x10x10x10

Front Lat Raises
30x10
40x10
45x10x10x10

Rear Delt Machine

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - chili/tilapia/chicken
3 - oats/tilapia/chicken
4 - banana/whey
5 - Post WO Gainer Shake (Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries/Natty Peanut Butter)
6 - top sirloin/cheat meal: rice/sliced fatty pork marinated in spicy sauce/fried dumplings - I ate 10 of them yikes!

???~3500 calories
~300g protein
~350g carbs
~100g fat

 

[CoBra666]

nah, its just games is all, although sometimes i do piss ppl off, i been good for awhile now if any mods are reading(i havent told anyone to take beastdrol rectally since last time ). if your gonna bench every other day take a look at madcows 5x5 routine. something like that might be good. basically its a heavy day, a light day, then a day you go for new pr. then next week your first day is your previous pr, then a light day then add another 5 lbs on the last day, repeat. u would generally start at a weight where it takes 4 weeks or so to get to your pr, but you would obviously coincide that with your joose schedule before hand. since your already mid cycle id start with your pr as ur last heavy day or maybe this week just your current max lift, then pr next week

 

[ho_steppa]

lol! that was you, haha! I remember reading that thread, a newb asking what's the best way to take Beast and some a-hole responds 'rectally'

 

[ho_steppa]

Went to the circus show - that is Costco on a Sunday afternoon, and stocked up on:

-chicken
-tilapia
-top sirloin
-turkey burgers
-whole grain bread
-bananas
-frozen strawberries
-cucumbers

Made it there and back home in under an hour - that's more impressive than a 300 pound bench press!

Too bad I was still stressed for time so I had to rush through my workout. I gotta remember to allow for more time in the gym now, since I'm resting between sets longer. Anyways, I did Back and Biceps today, and I really felt it in my arms - they felt like they were gonna rip off during the rows and afterwards, arms felt like lead weights when I was washing my hair and face, lol!

Well after my workout, I have been feeling these slight back pains, they are sharp and quick and then go away. Nothing unbearable, slight discomfort. Could this be the infamous backpump?!

I started to look into Madcow's and Bill Starr's 5x5 programs. Not gonna follow either to the T, but I'm definitely going to incorporate some of their principles..

Day 17 - Back and Biceps

Bent over Rows - Back parallel to floor
95x8
135x6
185x1
*working sets*
215x5x5x5x5x5 - these got really hard but was determined to push through, last week I did 205x6x6x6

Weighted Pullups
Bodyweight x3
+20x5
+25x5
+25x5
+20x5
+20x5

DB Preacher Curls
30x10
35x8
40x6

Barbell Curl - slow and controlled, super strict form
95x6x6x6x6

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - oats/tilapia/chicken
3 - Better Protein Bar/carrots/fruit
4 - banana/whey (Pre workout)
5 - banana/whey (post workout)
6 - top sirloin/minor cheat meal: pizza bagel/baguette
7 - chicken - I'm just shoveling it down right now

~3000 calories
~300g protein
~320g carbs
~70g fat

 

[CoBra666]

sometimes i say some stupid things. im used to c and c where there arent really any rules to follow. yeah dude, bill star and madcow are only guidelines. if u read them somewhere it should even say to only do them once then once u learn them adjust them to yourself and whatnot and to know longer follow them very strictly. i usually do a 5x5 with some iso's to assist whatever the main componud lift is. there is a killer squat workout called smolov (i think) squat routine. im thinking of doing that but with bench as my bench is far inferior to what i would like. been lifting for 2 months heavy and im already plateaued like wtf?!? and sadly far below where it used to be. those are back pumps, get some taurine. couple 5 or so grams a day will keep those away.

 

[ho_steppa]

Woke up today and after Meal 1, I was feeling super lethargic, had to take a nap for about 90 minutes. Felt much better afterwards, just glad I didn't have shit to do today! I would have been dying if I was at work. So since I've added in Helladrol, I started feeling small back pumps and the lethargy is back. I hope my body adjusts quick cause I plan to increase Helladrol to 100mg in 4 days.

Did Chest again today and felt great. I am not hyper and all over the place like when I take stims, but instead I am in a meditative state, super focused and calm, feeling the weight on each rep and concentrating on form.

Day 18 - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps

Flat Bench
95x8
120x5
160x3
200x1
*working sets*
240x5x5x5x5x5 - put all 25 of these up no problem, no assistance, no bouncing bar off chest

Machine Fly
FST-7

Smith Behind the Neck Military Press
135x10
165x6
175x4
165x4
155x5

Close Grip Bench Press
135x10
185x4x4
165x6x6

Rope Pulldowns
4 sets, 10-12 reps each set

30 minute incline walk - Average HR: 120
-felt a few minor back pumps while doing this - nothing unbearable, tho.

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites/chicken/Orange juice
2 - oats/chicken
3 - banana/whey (Pre workout)
4 - Post WO Gainer Shake (Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries/Natty Peanut Butter)
5 - top sirloin/whole grain bread/small pastry

~3200 calories
~300g protein
~330g carbs
~80g fat

 

[ho_steppa]

It was a mental battle today squatting - last week I failed a rep and dropped the bar, so I had feelings of fear and doubt eating away at me, getting in the way of my concentration. I was so close to decreasing the weight after my first working set, but I kept at it. Didn't really get my confidence back until after the 3rd set, the hump. The 4th set I went down a bit further, felt the burn in my quads. The 5th set was a struggle, but I knew I wasn't going to fail this time.

Ran out of time in the gym again so I couldn't do nearly as much as I'd like to have done. Less is more I guess. I tried the Power Shrug for the first time today, gonna stick with those for a bit, and see how my traps respond. I like how it also works my calves.

My weight is up another couple pounds, right around 191 the last few days. Abs are still slightly visible and vascularity has also increased. The increase in muscle size is pretty obvious (to me at least!), but I know I'm gaining fat, too. I'm trying not to stress about it too much, though. My inzer belt was super tight today, it left red marks all around my waist, gonna have to drop it down a notch -_-

Day 19 - Legs

Squat
135x8
185x5
225x3
275x1
*working sets*
305x5x5x5x5x5

Power Shrugs
225x10
315x8
365x6x6x6 - could have done more reps, but bar kept slipping out of my hands

Standing calf raises

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites//Orange juice
2 - chili/chicken/tilapia
3 - chili/chicken
4 - oats/chicken
5 - banana/whey (Pre workout)
6 - Real Gains/whey/banana (Post workout)
7 - top sirloin/whole grain bread/ pastry (no more of these damn things!)- eating now

~3400 calories
~340g protein
~330g carbs
~80g fat

 

[ho_steppa]

Did Chest again today, and felt great. 2 days ago I did 240 for 5x5 and I was contemplating 245 or 250 for today. I went with 250 and killed it. The last rep on sets 4 and 5 were a bit of a struggle, but still managed with no help and maintaining good form. So if 250 is 85% of my 1 rep max, I'm right around 295, which means benching 3 plates might be attainable. wishful thinking...

I remember last year when I was doing a similar chest program, the highest I got was 120kg (264 pounds). I was doing 4x4, not 5x5 and even then I was bouncing the bar big time, butt off the bench, and I needed assistance on each set. I felt like a beast, but now all I can do is think back and lol =)

Day 20 - Chest and Delts

Flat Bench
95x8
130x5
170x3
210x1
*working sets*
250x5x5x5x5x5

Machine Flies
FST-7

Bent over Rear Delt DB Raise
20x10
30x10
40x10x10x10

DB Front Raises
30x10
40x10
50x10x10x10

Side Delt Raises - Machine

30 min. incline treadmill - Ave HR: 120

Diet
EXACT same thing as yesterday minus the nighttime pastry!

1 - oats/egg whites//Orange juice
2 - chili/chicken/tilapia
3 - chili/chicken
4 - oats/chicken
5 - banana/whey (Pre workout)
6 - Real Gains/whey/banana (Post workout)
7 - top sirloin/whole grain bread- eating now

~3200 calories
~350g protein
~300g carbs
~70g fat

 

[CoBra666]

keep up the good work. 3 plates IS attainable. maybe this cycle, depending on what your pct is you might see some minor gains even during that. if not you can keep your gains if done right. and then, well, whats one more cycle in a couple months time. but u will get there bro

 

[ho_steppa]

thanks dude, I appreciate the kind words of encouragement. I'm in the thick of it now!! and I'm just trying to stay dedicated and motivated to keep eating clean, training hard, and getting enough rest.

I was hesitant to go to the gym tonight, only because I knew I was strapped for time and could only spend an hour in the gym. I went anyways, and again, felt rushed and couldn't do as much as I'd like to have. Tuesdays and Thursday are getting tough like that.

Tomorrow I start week 4 of the cycle, which means it is the last week of Beast at 30mg, and I increase Helladrol to 100mg.
Oh yea, stocked up on some supplements and food items that were running low:

(2) 10 pound boxes of oats
(2) 10 pound bags of Optimum whey
(1) Xtend - watermelon
(1) Universal BCAA - grape

Day 21 - Back (no time for Biceps!)

Bent over Rows - Back parallel to floor
95x8
135x5
185x3
205x1
*working sets*
225x5x5x5x5x5 - up another 10 pounds from Day 17

Weighted Pullups
Bodyweight x5
+25x5
+25x5
+25x5
+25x5
Bodyweight x10

Power Shrugs
225x10
315x10
365x10x10
365x10x10 - switched to regular shrugs, was feeling the power shrugs in my calves too much, not sure if doing those correctly...

That's it! - took me about an hour

Diet
EXACT same thing as yesterday!

1 - oats/egg whites//Orange juice
2 - chili/chicken/tilapia
3 - chili/chicken
4 - oats/chicken
5 - banana/whey (Pre workout)
6 - Real Gains/whey/banana (Post workout)
7 - top sirloin/whole grain bread- eating now

~3200 calories
~350g protein
~300g carbs
~70g fat

*I think I'm gonna add a syntyha/oats shake somewhere in between Meals 1~4 to up the calories a bit.

 

[ho_steppa]

*I started 100mg of Helladrol added with 30mg of Beastrol today. This is how I spaced it out:

11:00am - 10mg Beast & 25mg Helladrol
5:00pm - 2 n2guard, 1 liver, 2 HCGenerate
9:30pm - 20mg Beast & 75mg Helladrol (45 min preworkout)
1:30am - 3 n2guard, 1 liver, 3 HCGenerate

also taking 3 caps of n2slin, 12 caps of gear, 2 multi vitamins, and 6 fishoil caps each day.

I felt a little strain on my shoulder/delt area on my way to the gym, and was a bit nervous it would effect my chest session. It didn't, but I feel it might be a sign I'm straining my body too much - today was the third time this week going heavy on bench, and the 7th day in a row I've trained. Or it could be nothing at all. Volume wise, I'm not doing much, and I'm taking 3-5 minute breaks between each set on my main lifts, so my HR always comes down to the 90-100 range before I go into the next set.

Also, during the daytime, sometimes my arms feel extra heavy and uncomfortable and even now, a good 4 hours since I lifted, I feel like this extra weight on my shoulders pushing down on me, it's a weird feeling, hard to explain. maybe I just need some rest!

Stopped by Costco for an emergency chicken run and bought a tub of premade curry as well. It's not the healthiest choice of food, but at least it's not a hot dog and a slice of pizza. Actually I'm not sure it's really that much better since I know some curry can be ridiculously loaded with oils and butter. So I have that for the next couple of days, mixed with extra chicken of course.

Universal grape BCAA is delicious! I've tried and enjoyed orange and lemon-lime, but grape is hands down my favorite.

Day 22 - Chest and Biceps

Flat Bench
95x8
135x5
175x3
215x1
*working sets*
255x5x5x5x5x5

Machine Flies
FST-7 - I have been increasing the weight on these, too. But I am not recording them nor am I concerned with 'how much' I can lift here since it is a pulley based machine.

Barbell Curl
95x8
115x5
135x4x4 - this was awesome! I never curled plates before!! I was rocking a bit, but was still able to control the downward motion, instead of just letting gravity pull it down.

Dumbbell Hammer Curls
30x10
40x10
50x10
55x8x8 - the next weight up is a 70 pound dumbbell. wtf?! retarded gym!

light ab work - half assed it


Diet

1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - chili/chicken/tilapia
3 - Costco chicken curry & rice/chicken - *hard to count macros in curry and rice*
4 - syntha & oats shake
5 - oats/chicken
6 - banana/whey (Pre workout)
7 - Real Gains/whey/banana (Post workout)
8 - top sirloin/whole grain bread

~3800 calories
~390g protein
~360g carbs
~90g fat

 

[Acesopro]

Isn't Xtend just BCAA's? Why'd you buy that and the Universal BCAAs? Good job on keeping protein high too. Mine was around 250g during cycle and I really wish I had it at your level.

 

[ho_steppa]

lol, yea they are both BCAA products, and I guess variety of flavors is why I bought 2 different kinds. I was a big fan of Intrabolic for a while, then got tired of the taste. Last year I bought Xtend apple flavor and Universal Orange and Lemon-lime, this year it's Xtend Watermelon and Universal grape =)

btw, Ace, I just saw and skimmed through your Beast thread. Man, you ate a ton of carbs! lol! I would blow up (in a fat way) if I ate that many, you must have a high metabolism. your pics look good, too. It's good to hear you kept most of your gains.

When I was researching my cycle, I disregarded any threads/logs that combined Beast with an injectible (no offense, I just knew I wouldn't be going that route). I wonder how much of a difference the Test-e made in your gains, it sounded like you were in alot of discomfort the first few pins.

 

[Acesopro]

Ya dude if flavor is a big deal for you with BCAAs then choose what you like but I prefer to save as much money as I can so I buy the Cheap Supplements brand BCAAs. Just the powder, nothing else added.

I did eat a lot of carbs and I plan on adjusting it where I'll be getting the bulk of my carbs all around my workout. Keep them to maybe 300g and bump protein way the hell up since steroids take advantage of excess protein apparently?

I can understand you not wanting to pay attention to logs with a test base but I know now that I can never run another oral without a test base of some sort. Use the oral to jump start your cycle while your test is working.

 

[ho_steppa]

This pain in my shoulder kept coming and going all day, so I changed my mind like 6 times about going to the gym today. When it hurts, it's like a sharp pain and then it goes away. I might need an off day tomorrow to let me body rest.

Day 23 - Shoulders and Triceps

Standing Military Press
95x5
115x3
135x1
*working sets*
165x5
170x5x5x5x5 - the 1st rep on these were more of a push press, to help get the weight up. From there, I brought the weight down slowly to beneath my nose, but above my mouth, and exploded up, with no help from my legs.

Standing Upright Rows
95x6 - rested for a bit because my wrists were hurting
95x10
115x8
135x8x8x8

Weighted Dips
Bodyweight x10
+45 x10
+70 x8x8x8

Various cable extensions
half-assed, my arms were smoked at this point!

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - chili/chicken/tilapia
3 - Costco chicken curry & rice/chicken - *hard to count macros in curry and rice*
4 - syntha & oats shake
5 - oats/chicken
6 - banana (pre workout)
7 - Gainer shake - Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries/Almond Butter (Post workout)
8 - top sirloin/cheat meal - fatty pork in spicy sauce/rice/fried dumplings

~4200 calories
~370g protein
~400g carbs
~120g fat

 

[CoBra666]

if ur wrists and shoulders are sore would a supp like krill oil help u. it does wonders for my joints. or are either of these from pre-existing injuries?

 

[ho_steppa]

Never heard of krill oil, just did a quick google search, so it's like fish oil...on steroids! lol, I'll keep that in mind if the pain persists, but I think my body just needed a good day of rest, which is exactly what I did yesterday. no weights, no cardio, lots of kicking back and lounging around, only getting up to either piss or pop some pills.

Diet for the day started off good, but went downhill at dinner when I indulged in some serious comfort foods.

Day 24 - Rest

no exercise, no cardio, didn't do jack shit!

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites/chicken/Orange juice
2 - oats/chicken
3 - top sirloin/greasy fried rice with egg/Fried pork cutlet/Hershey's Almond bar/5 Oreos/Kid-O crackers/Mr Goodbar
(i think that's it!)

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I'm back on track with training and diet today. Not gonna stress too much about yesterday. I skipped a leg day, but I don't care! I'm focusing on a 3 plate bench press for the remainder of this cycle/bulk.

The day of rest was really good for my body, I was really pumped to hit the gym today and was super focused despite a few distractions. I'm a laaaser!!
*I took 20mg Beast and 75mg Helladrol 1 hour before training, and preworkout banana/whey 30 minutes before training*

Day 25 - Chest/Delts/Calves

Flat Bench
95x8
145x5
185x3
225x1
*working sets*
265x5x5x5x5x5 - up 10 pounds from Day 22. A trainer saw me struggling a bit with the weight on one of my sets, and he hovered over me to give me some help, to which I screamed, "NOOO!!!" and pushed it up with no help - felt awesome!

Machine Flies
FST-7

Rear Delt Flies - Chest on incline bench
20x10
30x10
40x10x10

Front Dumbbell Raises
40x10
55x8
70x4
55x8x10

Cable side delt Raises

Machine side delts

Standing Calf Raises
150x10
210x10
240x10x10x10

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - chili/chicken/tilapia
3 - Costco chicken curry & rice/chicken - *hard to count macros in curry and rice*
4 - syntha & oats shake
5 - oats/chicken
6 - banana/whey (pre workout)
7 - Gainer shake - Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries/natty peanut butter (Post workout)
8 - top sirloin/whole grain bread - eating now

~3800 calories
~370g protein
~360g carbs
~100g fat

 

[CoBra666]

u prolly dont compare about something so minor but a high glycemic foods like a banana should be taken post workout while the body is rapidly absorbing everything and a slow burning carb should be taken pre workout like an apple which contains polyfennals and helps burn fat and give energy to muscles. or an orange for vitamin c which helps increase nitric oxide and give u a better pump and muscle growth. both apple/orange contain about 30 grams of carbs

and if u do have joint issues like myself. krill oil is phenomenal. and of course need2 and orbit have it at the best price. in canada the cheapest i ever saw a bottle for is 66 bux last week, which was down froom the previous low of 72. orbit is like 19 or 21 bux or something like that. need2 cariies it in stock now to along with some of his other ruthless supp products

 

[ho_steppa]

u prolly dont compare about something so minor but a high glycemic foods like a banana should be taken post workout while the body is rapidly absorbing everything and a slow burning carb should be taken pre workout like an apple which contains polyfennals and helps burn fat and give energy to muscles. or an orange for vitamin c which helps increase nitric oxide and give u a better pump and muscle growth. both apple/orange contain about 30 grams of carbs

and if u do have joint issues like myself. krill oil is phenomenal. and of course need2 and orbit have it at the best price. in canada the cheapest i ever saw a bottle for is 66 bux last week, which was down froom the previous low of 72. orbit is like 19 or 21 bux or something like that. need2 cariies it in stock now to along with some of his other ruthless supp products

I agree and understand about high glycemic carbs post workout. I usually only eat a high GI carb post workout and have nothing but oats preworkout. Currently I'm taking in a good amount of low GI carbs (the oats) with 3 of my meals during the day leading to my nighttime workout, so I figure a simple carb would be ok preworkout...

 

[ho_steppa]

I usually don't have too much time to train on Tuesdays and Thursdays, but I worked out a way to add in about an extra 30 minutes. It's been about 2 hours since my workout and my body feels completely spent. I never felt this way off-cycle, and it's almost an uncomfortable feeling. Cooking my last meal, washing the dishes, even just sitting at the computer right now typing this, I feel like there's an extra 20 pounds weighing down on me, and I just can't wait to finish this so I can lay down!!

Day 26 - Back and Biceps

Bent Over Row - back parallel to floor
95x8
135x5
185x3
205x1
*working sets*
235x5x5x5x5x5

Weighted Pull-ups
Bodyweight x5
+25x5x5x5x5

Barbell Curl
95x8
115x6
135x3 - too much rocking, arms were pretty tired from rows and pullups
115x8x8

Dumbbell Hammer Curl
40x10
50x10x10x10

Shrugs
225x20
315x10x10x10

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - chili/chicken/tilapia
3 - Costco chicken curry & rice/chicken - *hard to count macros in curry and rice*
4 - syntha & oats shake
5 - oats/chicken
6 - banana/whey (pre workout)
7 - Gainer shake - Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries (Post workout)
8 - top sirloin/whole grain bread

~3600 calories
~370g protein
~360g carbs
~85g fat

 

[ho_steppa]

I broke down my 275 wall today, couldn't do all 5x5, but I got pretty darn close and am very satisfied. Of course I would like to say I did all 25 reps, however I don't see this as a failure at all. I couldn't do 275 for 1 rep a few weeks ago and today I did it 18 times. And even after blasting through chest and shoulders, I still set a new PR on CGBP - 225!!

The biggest disappointment of the day was letting one of the trainers get under my skin and piss me off. So I grunt, like an animal sometimes...I slam weights, occasionally and only during heavy sets. I'm not obnoxious about it, and I'm not doing it to get people's attention. I don't scream 'Yea buddy!' between sets and I'm not throwing plates/dumbbells around like they're m&m's. But some of these trainers constantly get at me to quiet down like we're in a library or something, as if someone is reading a book in the corner and I'm breaking their concentration.

So this trainer is just standing there, blatantly staring at me through the mirror, with this stupid proud grin on his face, arms folded, chest out, doing the occasional knuckle crack. And I got in his face - what the fuck are you looking at?I doubt he would exchange unpleasantries with me and do anything to risk his personal trainer job, so I shouldn't have let him get to me. So do I just ignore him and be a dick when he's working by slamming weights purposely and loudly, or is that plain childish?! lol...

Day 27 - Chest, Shoulders, Triceps

Flat Bench
95x8
155x5
195x3
235x1
*working sets*
275x5x5x5x3 - failed on 4th rep of 4th set - pffft!
270x3

Machine Flies
100x10
130x10
145x8x8
130x10

Military Press - seated with back support
135x10
185x6x6x6 - dropset - 135x10
*I can't believe how easy these were! can't wait to be able to rep 2 plates.

Close Grip Bench Press
135x10
185x10
205x8
225x6x6 - dropset 185x6, 135x10

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - chili/chicken/tilapia
3 - oats/chicken
4 - syntha & oats shake
5 - oats/chicken
6 - banana/whey (pre workout)
7 - Gainer shake - Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries (Post workout)
8 - top sirloin/whole grain bread - eating now

~3400 calories
~340g protein
~340g carbs
~80g fat

 

[Billyb23]

Sorry if I should post this somewhere else. But the guy I get from local is a ghost and not reliable. Does anyone know where I can order anadroll or a cycle online? And if you can a heads up on what I should purchase for a solid 1st cycle?

 

[CoBra666]

i am a man child myself. and if it were me i would find a way to irk him without doing anything to cause trouble at the gym for yourself. if he is weaker than you maybe workout next to him, then offer him training advice. something like that. maybe fart by him all the time then walk away when it starts to stink

 

[ho_steppa]

i am a man child myself. and if it were me i would find a way to irk him without doing anything to cause trouble at the gym for yourself. if he is weaker than you maybe workout next to him, then offer him training advice. something like that. maybe fart by him all the time then walk away when it starts to stink

I don't think I could just fart next to him, might accidentally shart myself!

 

[ho_steppa]

It totally slipped my mind until I woke up this morning and checked my cycle/pill schedule, but today was the last day for Beastdrol. I've been taking Beastdrol for 4 weeks now (20/30/30/30), the last 2 weeks of which have been stacked with Helladrol. Now it's 2 more weeks of Helladrol solo until I go into PCT.

And what a better way to send off the Beast, than with a killer legs session.

Day 28 - Legs

Squat
135x8
185x5
225x3
275x1
*working sets*
315x5x5x5x5
365x5 - I got one on my own, and a good spot on the remainder. I did not plan on this at all, and was hesitant since my legs were already tired from doing 4 sets with 315 prior. Anyways, I got an insane pump/rush from doing this (and yeap, lots of grunting and screaming! lol..- too bad douche bag trainer wasn't there to quiet me down)

Lying Hamstring Curl
heavy pyramid up

Seated Leg Extension Machine
heavy pyramid up

Standing Calf Raises
heavy pyramid up and then back down

Diet - there was pizza and cake today at work for a birthday, surprisingly I was not tempted at all. Normally I would have indulged in at least a few slices of pizza, but I just quietly went to another break area and ate my chicken and oats, not feeling the least bit miserable =)

1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - chili/chicken/tilapia
3 - oats/chicken
4 - syntha & oats shake
5 - oats/chicken
6 - banana/whey (pre workout)
7 - Gainer shake - Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries (Post workout)
8 - top sirloin/whole grain bread - eating now

~3400 calories
~340g protein
~340g carbs
~80g fat

 

[ho_steppa]

I'm not sure if it's because I stopped taking Beast today, but I felt something today I haven't felt in a while - HUNGER! Like 'man, I just ate and I can't wait till my next meal cause my stomach is growling'- hunger. Weird feeling, I forgot what that felt like.

After 5 days of heavy lifting, my body is aching! I think I might go light tomorrow and hit the hot tub/sauna.

Day 29 - Chest, Traps, Triceps

Flat Bench
95x8
155x5
195x3
235x1
*working sets*
275x5x5x5
275x5 - got a spot on this set, dude had no idea what he was doing - he helped way too much on 3rd rep, when I didn't need any help whatsoever. I grunted for him to let go of the bar and finished 2 more reps easily on my own.
275x5 - a little help on 5th rep. I'm gonna keep banging away at 275 until I can get 5x5 by myself.

Power Shrugs
225x8
315x8
365x6
405x6x6x6
315x10

Weighted Dips
Bodyweight x8
+45x8
+90x6x6x6 - dropset +45x8

Seated BTN Dumbbell extension
70x10 - only one set, wasn't feeling it

Machine Flies
100x10
130x10
160x8x6
130x10x10

Diet - someone bought me McDonald's for dinner, couldn't refuse it so I politely and thankfully accepted, then went behind his back and gave it away to someone else. And I love McDonalds! Bigmacs, QP's..mmmm, surprisingly, the cravings haven't been that bad lately.

1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - chili/chicken/tilapia
3 - oats/chicken
4 - syntha & oats shake
5 - oats/chicken
6 - banana/whey (pre workout)
7 - Gainer shake - Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries (Post workout)
8 - top sirloin/whole grain bread - eating now
9 - (might eat some cottage cheese/natty PB or a better protein bar before bed)

~3400 calories
~340g protein
~340g carbs
~80g fat

 

[ho_steppa]

Day 30 - cardio

No weights today, instead biked outdoors on a trail for 60 minutes. My back and butt were killing me! Came home, showered up and had a big ole cheat meal!

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - chili/chicken/tilapia
3 - oats/chicken
4 - oats/chicken
5 - banana/whey (pre workout)
6 - sushi - tuna/salmon/vinegared rice, fried pork cutlet/white rice, chocolate

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Rested up and slept in, a bit too much I think, I was in bed for about 13-14 hours until I finally rolled out and started the day. These days, during the hours I am awake, I am extra aware of my food intake and try to get a meal in at least every 2-3 hours. But, I wonder how catabolic it is to stay in bed like that without any food and minimal water for such a long period of time...

Day 31 - Chest, Back, Forearms, Calves, Abs, Cardio - (Total workout time was about 2 hours 10 minutes, Average HR - 130)

10 minute outdoor bike to gym

Flat Bench - Dynamic Effort, 30 sec. rest between sets
155x3x3x3 - regular width grip
155x3x3x3 - wide grip
155x3x3x3 - close grip
155x15

Lat Pulldown - no wraps/gloves so the bar kept slipping out of my hand on the heavier sets
100x10
160x10
190x8
175x10x10x10

Reverse Grip Lat Pulldown - shoulder width grip
190x10
220x8x8x8

Barbell forearm curl
45x10
65x10x10x10

Standing Calf Raises

Straight Arm Standing Lat Pulldown

Abs

40 min. outdoor bike to home

Diet

1 - whey/oats/chicken/egg whites/Orange juice (over 1000 calories!)
2 - syntha & oats shake/banana (pre workout)
3 - Gainer shake - Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries (Post workout)
4 - top sirloin/whole grain bread/chicken
5 - chicken/oats

~3400 calories
~340g protein
~340g carbs
~80g fat

 

[BarbelBeast]

How much have you gained on the Beastdrol bro..

 

[ho_steppa]

How much have you gained on the Beastdrol bro..

Well today I weighed in at about 198, and I weighed about 180 when I started. Also, the 16th of June was my last dosage of Beast and now I'm just running Helladrol at 100mg for another 10 days before PCT. It's been quite a ride so far!

 

[ho_steppa]

Didn't sleep too well last night and had to get an extra early start on the day so I was pretty tired and lethargic all day long. Almost convinced myself to skip today's workout, glad I didn't. I maxed out on bench today - finally put up 3 plates and then some!

A trainer asked me if I was taking any steroids - DENY DENY DENY!!! lol, it reminded me of a line from 'Science of Steroids' where a scientist says 'other than pedophilia, this (steroid use) is the most secretive behavior I have ever encountered...' The funny thing is this same trainer sometimes tells me stories of his competing days and openly talks about his steroid use during those days: The gains were incredible but the sides (gyno, acne, balls shrinkage) were too harsh. wtf?! does he not know about PCT? N2BM? obviously not...He tells me he has a source and if I am interested he'll hook me up. yeaaaaaright!

But seriously, back to the question he asked me. I live in a country where you can get arrested for someone pointing to you and saying 'he has smoked weed.' not even possession, if it is in your system, you will go to jail. where the fuck am I gonna get illegal steroids from?! lol. As for the Beast and Helladrol, it passed through customs without incident, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna openly show it off. I doubt he would have any clue what it was, even if he saw the ingredients.

Anyways, onto today's lifts

Day 32 - Chest, Delts, Calves

Flat Bench
135x10
185x6 - slight pause at bottom on each rep
225x4 - slight pause at bottom on each rep
275x2 - slight pause at bottom on each rep
315x1 - woot!
335x1 - I needed a little help at the top locking it out
315x1
225x15

Dumbbell Raises - Front
30x10
50x8
70x5x5x5
50x10

Dumbbell Raises - Rear (chest on incline bench)
30x10
40x10x10x10

Dumbbell Raises - Side
30x10
40x10x10x10

Standing Calf Raises
6 sets or so

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites
2 - chili/chicken/tilapia
3 - mixed rice with vegetables in spicy sauce - hard to count calories
4 - oats/chicken
5 - syntha & oats shake
6 - oats/chicken (pre workout)
7 - Gainer shake - Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries (Post workout)
8 - top sirloin/whole grain bread

~3800 calories
~340g protein
~420g carbs
~90g fat

 

[CoBra666]

and you thought u wouldnt get 3 plates. lol, good work bro. where u from??

 

[ho_steppa]

and you thought u wouldnt get 3 plates. lol, good work bro. where u from??

yea it's been one crazy ride, and it was only a few short weeks ago that I seriously doubted I would be able to bench 315. now it's just a matter of keeping my stength gains and dropping some of this weight. I'm not used to weighing close to 200 pounds! I'm from the States, but in Korea at the moment.

 

[CoBra666]

well u might lose abit. it is possible so u got a couple weeks? to get a few more reps/weight under your belt. how does ur pct look. phytoserms/hcgen with unleashed/postcycle and formastanzol will probably help u even make more gains instead of losing. just remember u need to feed your bigger body once u come off to. lots of ppl go back to original small diet and undereat after they gain 20 pounds.

 

[ho_steppa]

Another long day and was feeling pretty tired all day. Quick one hour workout tonight. I need a good night's rest!

Day 33 - Back

Bent-Over Rows - Back parallel to floor
135x8
185x5
225x5
*working sets*
250x5x5x5x5x5 - last set was pretty difficult, it was hard to keep back from jerking up too much

Weighted Pullups
Body weight x8
+25x5
+35x5x5x5x5

Shrugs
225x10
315x10
405x8x8x8

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - chili/chicken/tilapia
3 - syntha & oats shake
4 - oats/chicken
5 - oats/chicken
6 - whey/banana (pre workout)
7 - Gainer shake - Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries (Post workout)
8 - top sirloin/whole grain bread

~3600 calories
~366g protein
~348g carbs
~81g fat

 

[Acesopro]

Lookin good buddy

 

[ChrisUlrich]

Got any pictures for before/after? The gains look great dude. Very nice indeed!

 

[ho_steppa]

Got any pictures for before/after? The gains look great dude. Very nice indeed!

THere are before pics on the first page, I might put up after pictures in about a week, closer to the end of the cycle

 

[ho_steppa]

I just cooked about 5 pounds of chicken breast that had a slight funky-not-so-fresh odor. There was no sticky slime on it and I couldn't even really notice the smell unless I stuck my nose very close to the breasts. I let the chicken run under water for a few minutes before throwing them in the frypan, hope I don't get sick!

I've been more tired during the days lately, and I know it's because I'm not sleeping well at night again. It takes me forever to fall asleep and once I am, I gotta get up to piss. I don't think it's really hindering my workouts or strength, though. I doubt it's the Helladrol, since I've had problems with my sleep even before I started this cycle.

Day 34 - Chest, Shoulders, Triceps

Flat Bench
95x8
155x5
195x3
235x1
*working sets*
275x5x5x5x5x5 - got all 25 reps on my own! no spot, no nothing!

Military Press - seated with back support
135x10
185x6
225x5x5 - I had a good spot on these, just guiding the bar up and down with me
185x7 - dropset 135x10

Close Grip Bench Press
135x10
185x10
205x8
225x6x6

Rope Pulldown

Diet
1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - turkey burger/whole grain bread
3 - oats/chicken
4 - oats/chicken
5 - whey/banana (pre workout)
6 - Gainer shake - Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries (Post workout)
7 - top sirloin/whole grain bread

~3400 calories
~335g protein
~335g carbs
~79g fat

 

[ho_steppa]

Day 35 - 'Unexpected' Off Day

Damn, I'm getting swamped at work lately. Last night, I was getting ready to leave - 1 hour preworkout, took the Helladrol. 30 minutes later, drank some whey, and ate a banana, trying to start focusing and zoning in on doing legs. And then I get an unexpected drop by from a client asking a million questions about some recent consultation work. There goes my workout, felt super unmotivated by the end of it, gym was closing in 30 minutes, went home and vegged out on some super starchy carbs and other junk!

I hate off days like that, it completely throws me off and puts me in a slump, motivation is down, diet goes out the window. I know there's always gonna be that 'something' in life that gets in the way of what we try to do, and it's something we all try to learn to deal with in positive ways. And now there is the added element in the picture- this steroid cycle, which is also adding some extra stress.

Another thing that's been on my mind -acne. I've never been too acne prone, a few on my face maybe, never on my body. Acne on my face has increased a bit on cycle, nothing too crazy but it is noticeable. I get comments left and right about sudden increase in muscle mass, but I also get those irky comments about 'trouble' on my face! How is it going to be during PCT? I've always used Kiehl facial products, exfoliating 1-2 times a week. anyone with experience/problems with acne on Beastdrol or Helladrol?

 

[ho_steppa]

Back on track today from an unmotivated yesterday.

So here is my complete cycle:

1-4 Beastrol 20/30/30/30
3-6 Helladrol 75/100/100/100
1-6 n2guard, forged Liver, Bridge (double dosed until HCGenerate arrives)
6-12 Post cycle, Unleashed, forma, (probably continue HCGenerate/Bridge, add Phytoserms if needed…)
n2slin and gear throughout cycle

I have a question about the weeks in bold. I just started week 6, the final week of my cycle before PCT, so do I start PCT now in week 6 or do I wait till week 7? Or should I start PCT the last day of week 6, or te first day of week 7. confusing?!

Day 36 - Legs, Biceps

Squat
135x10
185x5
225x3
275x1
*working sets*
315x5x5 - went nice and deep on these
365x5 - with a good spot
415x5 - quarter squats with a good spot
315x8 - help on last 3

barbell Curl
95x8
115x6
135x3x3
115x8

Lying Hamstring Curls

Standing Calf Raises

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - turkey burger/whole grain bread
3 - oats/chicken
4 - syntha & oats shake
5 - oats/chicken
6 - whey (pre workout)
7 - Gainer shake - Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries (Post workout)
8 - top sirloin/whole grain bread

~3600 calories
~360g protein
~340g carbs
~86g fat

 

[brownbrown]

This is a Dam Good log!!!!

 

[ho_steppa]

This is a Dam Good log!!!!

thanks dude, appreciate the positive comment!

btw brownbrown, your beast/hella log was one of the logs that got me more interested in running this cycle. I was originally going to do helladrol only, then looked into beast and finally decided on what I'm doing now.

hey, did you have any problems with acne on cycle?

 

[brownbrown]

thanks dude, appreciate the positive comment!

btw brownbrown, your beast/hella log was one of the logs that got me more interested in running this cycle. I was originally going to do helladrol only, then looked into beast and finally decided on what I'm doing now.

hey, did you have any problems with acne on cycle?

Yea , that log wasnt so great. Work was a horrible then...

Acne- yea, nothing horrible (like some Tests and Deca), Not the huge giant bumps, just a higher amount of small ones and blackheads.. i tried to keep any extra grease out of my diet ( Sucks when your woman is Mexican ) , and used proactive on face and shoulders.

 

[CoBra666]

I have a question about the weeks in bold. I just started week 6, the final week of my cycle before PCT, so do I start PCT now in week 6 or do I wait till week 7? Or should I start PCT the last day of week 6, or te first day of week 7. confusing?!

post cycle and unleashed start the day after ur last dose of hella. post cycle u need for organ support. forma is a top quality suicide ai which should be used to prevent rebound gyno from beastdrol.

i would have run hgcen on cycle and use unleashed/phyto in pct.

 

[CoBra666]

resubscribe. lol unsubbed from wrong one

 

[ho_steppa]

Took a few day hiatus from the gym and diet, kept taking all 30+ pills each day though! Back at it today - I was nervous all my strength gains would be gone from not lifting and having a shitty diet for the past 2 days, retarded thinking, I know! lol!

Day 37 - Off

Diet
1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - curry/chicken/tuna
3 - oats/chicken
4 - oats/chicken
5 - pizza, rice cakes in spicy sauce, fried rice cakes in spicy sauce

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Day 38 - Off

Diet

1 - oats/egg whites/chicken/whey/Orange juice
2 - ice cream sundae
3 - pizza/deli sandwich/chicken
4 - deli sandwich/potato chips
5 - whey

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Day 39 - Chest, Delts, Calves

Flat Bench
115x10
160x5
200x3
240x1
*working sets*
280x5x5x5x5 - no help
280x5 - slight help on last 2 reps, damnit!

Front Dumbbell Raises
40x10
55x8
70x6x6x6

Side Dumbbell Raises
30x10
40x10
50x10x10x10 - dropset - 30x10

Rear Delt Machine

Standing Calf Raises

Machine Fly

1 - oats/egg whites/Orange juice
2 - oats/chicken
3 - curry/chicken/tuna/tilapia
4 - syntha & oats shake
5 - oats/chicken
6 - whey (pre workout)
7 - Gainer shake - Real Gains/whey/banana/strawberries (Post workout)
8 - top sirloin/whole grain bread

~3600 calories
~383g protein
~320g carbs
~86g fat