Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
napsgear
genezapharmateuticals
domestic-supply
puritysourcelabs
UGL OZ
UGFREAK
napsgeargenezapharmateuticals domestic-supplypuritysourcelabsUGL OZUGFREAK

My 1st post!!! w/ a bunch of ?????'s

RADAR said:
Yes he might, I bet he would be extremely grateful to you also for not having any sex drive for awhile, some people hate deca.
I always reccommend test as it is the base of any cycle.
Good gains, active libido ,etc.


But what do i know...i'm 52 and so inexperienced!


RADAR


I just want to clarify that the above was a pun for the newbies that don't know me, i starting in the iron at 16
just for the record.


This pic was taken 2 yrs ago when i was 50

RADAR1001.jpg
 
kaferkrieger said:
OK, take the trainingwheels off guys. I'd really like to do things right the first time.

Why should my 1st time be an experiment anticipating adverse effects/reactions?

It is imperative to understand your reactions to each compound in regards to both positive and negative effects. I assume this won't be your first and last cycle.

Radar could not have said it any better. Keep it simple. Personally, I would recommend an 8 week testosterone only cycle. It's not that simple even when you might think it is.

First, have blood work performed to establish baseline values. This will be very uselful later one in regards to evaluating your recovery amongst many other things.

A combination of 500 mgs Testosterone per week, 6.25 mgs Aromasin EOD and .5 mg Finasteride ED for a total of 8 weeks should provide you optimal Anabolic/Androgenic effects while minimizing Estrogen and DHT related sides.

Aromasin will prevent estrogen associated side effects such as gynecomastia and water retention by deactivating the P450 Aromatase resposible for the aromatization of testosterone to estrogen. Also, Aromasin has minimal to zero impact on your lipid profile and IGF-1 levels when used for short/respectable durations of time. Arimidex would be your second option due to it's price but it should be known that it does have and impact on cholesterol and IGF-1 levels. Nolvadex should be your last option during a cycle due to the fact that it decreases available concentrations of IGF-1 by increasing IGF-BP3 levels which inhibits gains, especially on a test only cycle. Nolvadex is best suited to treat a pre exhisting case of gynecomastia. It has no impact on circulating Estrogen levels and therefore water retention, but is does have a positive impact on HDL. However, a combination of a Arimidex and Nolvadex may provide an alternative as lower dosage of Arimidex (0.25-0.5 mgs EOD) combined with a lower dosage of Nolvadex (10 mgs ED) should equate to less of an overall decrease in circulating estrogen, protection specifically at the receptor site and less of an impact on the lipid profile.

Finasteride prevents the metabolism of DHT via the 5AR. This will minimize DHT related side effects such as hair loss and acne. Also, it will keep the prostate healthy. A dosage of 0.5 mg ED should be sufficient without affecting libido and strength on a 500 mg Testosterone cycle.

Begin PCT one week after your last injection and it should consist of 1000 IU's HCG 3x/wk (mon/wed/fri) in combination with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED for a total of 3 weeks. After, continue with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED or a combination of 50 mgs Clomid ED in combination with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED, if desired, for an additional 2 weeks. HCG and Nolvadex during the first 3 weeks will immediately restore testicular volume and Nolvadex will initiate pituitary secretion of LH by increasing the responsiveness of LH to GnRH. During the following 2 weeks pituitary LH secretion will be sustained with Nolvadex or a combination of Clomid and Nolvadex.

Why HCG? Why begin PCT 1 week after last injection?

There is nothing more effective than HCG in regards to restoring endogenous testosterone production, spermatogenesis and testicular volume. The action of HCG is virtually identical to that of pituitary LH. It stimulates production of gonadal steroid hormones by stimulating the Leydig cells of the testis to produce testosterone. This occurs independantly and is not affected by exogenous hormones and preexisting HPTA suppresion.

The elevated androgen levels are from an exogenous source and your endogenous production is suppressed. Therefore, waiting for the exogenous androgens to clear from your system completely ultimately results in lower total concentrations of androgens in your system when begining PCT. Regardless, LH secretion will begin to increase as the exogenous hormones diminish.

Jenetic
 
Last edited:
Keep it simple for your first man...I had amazing results on 500mg Test/ 30mg D-bol a day my first time....and I dont know why everyone says not to use D-bol your first time cause its harsh on your liver...like its going to be any less harsh your second or third cycle?? Your liver doesnt get any stronger or resistant to it...lol...plus at 30mg a day for 4 weeks...as long as your taking your liver protectants...its really not that harsh..take it (Russian Akrikhins if possible) and enjoy...
 
I would go with 200mg of Deca and 500mg of Test a week for 10 weeks.

Make sure you have Clomid and Nolva on hand.
 
RADAR said:
And JA You have been owned!

Thats for calling me grampa!


RADAR

Not bad at all for an old old man! I can barely see the winkles. Do you botox?
 
Top Bottom