Mr. O comparisons

[chazk]

Thats nice you were able to pull that dick out of your mouth long enough to type. WOW you competed at the tampa in 03 You are a NOBODY. What did you place 3rd with three guys competing in the under 200 class?

Stop hating on Jay you will never be close to him.

you Call us Neo Nazis now? Some of my favorite bodybuilders are black I don't give a shit about race but whatever.

You need to lower your cycles some you cant control your child like anger.

I was at the olympia with several of my friends that have their pro cards and everyone agreed Jay won. You weren't at the show little bitch so shut your mouth. I don't know who the fuck you think you are to critique Jay, but I would love to see your pathetic physique and post it next to Jay's. Then maybe you could suck his dick to feed your steroid habit because we sure as hell know you aren't making shit bodybuilding.

let me open this one witha taste of your own logic.
hey normuscle whats a matter you were sitting in the crowd and not onstage wow that must make you a loser a total nobody surrounded by all those pros and you were a nobody if the camera was pointed in your direction and some one took a pic they would have to cut your face right out of the pic it would be just so insulting to have a nobodys face like yours in the picture when they showed their friends.Your friends that were with you were not on stage why is that are they nobodys also got their cards are they bantam weights about the size of a zit on jay cutlers ass?
See above how lame that sounded its pretty much your words but just reversed to fit you.
On to this 200lbs number you seem to have locked into your brian as usless. I suppose you are going to discredit frank zane, chris dickerson and franco columbu becuase they weighed 200lbs or under and their mr olyimpia titles are not real and they are nobodies as well. I guess you seem to think Lee priest nobody becuase he never comes in weighing over 200lbs on stage .

As far as the "stop hating on jay you will never come close to him" thanks god I hope never to have a 40 inch wide waiste or a giant head like jay .I would not wish jays waiste line on my worst enemy.

For you to feel jay was handed the crown in all fairness and earned it 100% with the best body onstage is absurd.if you would have claimed this back in 2000 that jay had a better body then coleman I would have agreed jays body has changed alot over the last 6 years and its been for the worst the stomach just keeps getting larger ,wider and less tight.


Every one is entitled to their opinion I have mine you have yours .I have noticed over the years guys admire role models that have bodies similar to theirs or something they can achieve.I have long admired lee labrada ,shawn ray ,dexture jackson, and frank zane for their physics and a body I can come somewhat close to achieving at 200lbs to 215lbs at 5'7 1/2 . If a person waiste line forces then to admire people like Jay cutler, Greg kovacs, then your entitled to what you think looks good and so be it look up to your role models not everyone can have a 28-31 inch waiste .I under stand that and sorry to dog your role model jay due to the stomach thing


charger1968 sorry man I am a nice guy i'm just tired of the games joe weider plays with bodybuilders these guys have the willpower , strive for excellence, give 110% they bust their asses day in and day out only to show go through prejuding and already know the outcome of the contest the daybefore the actual show but then still show up the next day and have to act surprised .While the winner is the person joe feels would sell the most magzines at 6$ a pop to a few hudred thousand people in the underground bodybuilding world along with putting that persons face on a bucket of nasty tasting joe weider protien .last but not least will be the jay cutler 100lbs plastic weigth set with bench at wal-mart for 50$.

Thats my only arguement and everyone elses to why bodybuilding has and never will be called or even considered a sport to the general public is the leader and person picking the judges and outcome of the contest has a self intrest in selling magazines to read about " jays battle for the o" " or ronnie vows to comeback" how the fuck could bodybuilders be so blind to not see this. all the 1st place mr o's get photo opps,interviews,guest posing gigs and sighned to joe weiders contract for as long as they are winning the title.when jay turns into old news the magazine articles are not selling and people get tired of him winning, wether he deserves to win or not joe will bump out jay and on to the next money maker.

should have let ronnie win this last one then just retire.but nope jay taking it will sell magzines and money is the bottom line.Atleast it is to joe wieder with a net worth of over 230 million dollars. yet the winners get a few hundred grand for 5 or so years if they are lucky then spend the rest of their life going to local gymn openings to pose for 1000$ and sighn a few pics for 25$ a pop.Give it time as soon as jay stops winning in 5 years he will be as broke as flex wheeler moving back into a 2 bedroom apartment while joe prob made a extra 30 million of jays name.

 

[norsemuscle]

Your theories and logic are fucking rediculous. Body similar to Jay? Not at all I actually am 6'4' with a tiny waist at 245 only done very light cycles and maintained everything naturally. I see you are a short little guy, you probaly have little mans complex. Girls don't like you so you compensate with your gear use. Its alright little man I would probaly do the same thing if I was short and small like you.

We are both entitled to our opinons but all of this talk of a small waist is fucking rediculous Ronnie has a giant waist too. I personally don't want to look like the Pros of today as women do not find that attractive but I follow the sport for the hell of it. I would never waste my time doing a show or anything as I personally don't find it worthwhile. You were personally attacking Jay and I figured fuck if you are going to be soo critical of him you must be the uncrowned O. I respect all of these guys for what they have done. You are a roid raging immature little clown and like I said a nobody in bodybuilding.

Pretty much everything you say about bodybuilding in general is true, which is why I would never persue it.

 

[1968Charger]

guyz come one this is so stupid !!!! and chazk your waseting alot of energy on this therad!!!!! just let it go............ so what if jay won , and so what if others think he did ....my point is your getting worked up over other peoples point of view .just let it go. if your that upset about pro body builing and the way the body builders are treated ,start a thread about it so others can share as well................and frank zane emailed me back ,i still cant belive it

 

[norsemuscle]

guyz come one this is so stupid !!!! and chazk your waseting alot of energy on this therad!!!!! just let it go............ so what if jay won , and so what if others think he did ....my point is your getting worked up over other peoples point of view .just let it go. if your that upset about pro body builing and the way the body builders are treated ,start a thread about it so others can share as well................and frank zane emailed me back ,i still cant belive it

Agreed. Chazk I'm done arguing with you. Agree to disagree.

 

[SOURPUSS]

i think jay beat ronnie but they both didn't look all that great, now if dexter could pack on 30lbs and keep his symetry,

 

[chazk]

Your theories and logic are fucking rediculous

I would never waste my time doing a show or anything as I personally don't find it worthwhile. I respect all of these guys for what they have done. You are a roid raging immature little clown and like I said a nobody in bodybuilding.

Pretty much everything you say about bodybuilding in general is true, which is why I would never persue it.

If you dish it normuscle then be ready to take it.
At 6'4 and 245lbs I can see why you never plan to compete stick to the vollyball court and doing more roids one day you might get to be the leader of the swim team. why is it you take roids becuase tout a skinny ,tall ,lanky NOBODY in bodybuilding you do becuase the girls don't like you thats the only reason you do it is becuase your a skinny 6'4 roid raging immature skinny clown.
Does that logic seem to work for you best ?tell you exactly the same thing you tell others but reverse it to just the opposite to just insult you with it.Thanks for telling us about your self you have a classic case of low self esteem and should prob even seek treatment learn to be happy with your self and let others be happy with themselves

Normuscle the title of the thread was called " mr o comparisons " So thats what I did compared them and posted a reply on it. If you cant handle it then thats your problem.

[/QUOTE]You were personally attacking Jay and I figured fuck if you are going to be soo critical of him you must be the uncrowned[/QUOTE]
Did I ever say i was the uncrowned Mr O? boy your even stupider then you type .I never said anything even close maybe it was the attention you did not recieve as tall lanky child that makes you " hear things" or see things you want to see as a excuse to respond to things you have no clue about. but just a reason to assume things jump in and comment and feel you have to defend jay cutler becuase you could never defend yourself .

[/QUOTE]I would never waste my time doing a show or anything as I personally don't find it worthwhile.[/QUOTE]so now your to good to "waste time ona show" tell your pro friends that you went to the mr o with you feel they are a waste and see how many friends you keep
If you support bodybuilding so much then please diet down get around 225 6'4 5% bf I'll get you entered in a few local east coast events and then see how your skinny body 6'4 at 225lbs is judged standing next to a little 5'7 1/2 210lbs bodybuilder you will prob just be looked at as comic relief ) but you might gain repect for everyone in the sport not just the freaks on the big stages 3 times a year but the rest of us the other 175,000 bodybuilders world wide of all weight classes , heights big and tall becuase its us that keep the sport going by entering and attending local shows, showing our support for each other its our gym member ship dues, our money spent on supplements,money for food and nutrition that actually keep the sport alive not the same 5 freaks on a stage.Its not about winning bro its about the love for the sport I give props to lightweights and bantam weights some are only 5'2 but train just as hard if not harder then people 100lbs heavier . Just as I know its harder for someone that 6'4 to pack on mass if they have long muscles .I'm sure at 6'4 its not easy to squat 700lbs or bench 400lbs for you the distance the weight has to travel can be much further then a person only 5'7 or 9 inches shorter then you.So I admire you rability to gain muscle with long insertions and muscle bellies your not skinny bro I was just saying that becuase you were insulting me with this little man stuff. But thats great I have been the underdog before and feed off your negativity its my fuel for the work outs you will push me harder when i drag ass at 6 am in a few hours to get into the gym and out by 7 before the rises

back to the subject or jay
I said it once and i'll say it again. jay is the most unattractive Mr O to date .His waiste his huge bigger then colemans in width and girth jays vascularity or lack of makes his upper chest look flat,jays large bone structure does not accent his muscle bellies or create the illusion of a full round 3-d body .jays coraco brachiallis can not even be seen at all in the front double bicep is should lie just under the bicep brachii and above the tricep but its not seen even his brachiallis is not prevelent those are the only flaws I can find In jays body its mainly just upper arm speration and development along with the wide waiste line everything else is very symetric

normuscle once you stop attacking people with personal insluts please comment the reasons why you feel jay won the mr o title in comparison to everyone else point the strong points and why you felt jays body was the best on stage tune out your night from the show and let the crowd have no influence with cheers or boos look at the line up compare each pose for pose and tell me exactly why you choose jay as the total package

can you atleast do that much?
or will you will just start your personal attacks in your response with more little man shit or how you feel stepping on stage in a waste everything you can to justify same ol same ol blah blah blah
lets have a actual debate here the shit talk is getting lame

 

[1968Charger]

[wtf was that all about LOL

 

[gjohnson5]

The fact is that Jay has beaten Ronnie in 3 more competitions since the Olympia....

 

[mlong23]

But I don't see where these GH Gut comments keep coming from , there's only 1 ab pose and both guys abs are lacking...

The front lat spread pose looks like cutler has a wider waste anyways...

Ronnie's abs are protruding = gh gut

 

[mlong23]

Ronnie's arms in a front double bicep are amazing, this has become his best pose. His back is still huge, but looks smaller than in previous years. His legs are to big, not enough detail.

Look at all of the pictures, he was not in great shape, as he had trouble breathing and flexing at the same time. The guy is 40+, he has had a great run, should have lost a few times along the way and now he has.

Jay looked better from behind than Ronnie, and his abs looked better, even though they are funny shaped. Jays problem is that he can't get good seperation in his arms, like some of the other guys. Ronnie's waist is just as big as Jay's, so thats a mute point.