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Motivation Problems..

RippedRule

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Ok, last year after getting off a cycle of test I became very busy and really let my working out go to shit. I had tests done and my test levels came back low avg - 340. It was my 1st and only cycle and I did necessary recovery. I'm unaware of my previous test levels but I am going to run another round of clomid. Since then I have become very unmotivated, i grow EXTREMELY exhausted in the gym, etc...

I'm curious if anyone has advice. Also, I'm looking for something to give me a boost in the gym. I've heard good things about NOXplode? Just something to give me energy/some explosion. Hopefully clomid will get me back up to average but in the meantime I need some help.
 
For a quick lift at the gym i like to take some type of ephedra nothing fancanything stackers etc..
 
I take 50mgs of ephedra and a No-Doze or vivarin (200mgs caffeine)
If i'm planning on going super heavy that week i'll throw in some Injectable B12 30 minutes prior to working out.

RADAR
 
It's weird. I've never really felt like this. It's like total exhaustion. Do you think its testosterone related? I try caffeine, vivarin, and i tried that Gakic [worthless]. Some of it could be in my head but damn. Sometimes I feel like i HAVE to leave the gym
 
RippedRule said:
It's weird. I've never really felt like this. It's like total exhaustion. Do you think its testosterone related? I try caffeine, vivarin, and i tried that Gakic [worthless]. Some of it could be in my head but damn. Sometimes I feel like i HAVE to leave the gym


You may have an iron defeciency

Geritol or femiron tabs should help.

RADAR
 
really? are there other symptoms of iron def?

i take a couple mega men vitamins from gnc each day but apparently they don't have iron. Could it be something that simple? I eat a lot of bread?

Like i said, im unsure of my previous test levels pre-cycle, but 340? I am only 21 and was thinking maybe my body is slowly recovering?
 
My fave is ephedrine(single ingredient/no guafenisin), caffeine(200 mg Vivarin), aspirin stack. As a variable I'll change up my caffeine source to Espresso, coffee, or Red Bull. Lately I've been using a pre workout drink called Methyl Speed-it has something in it that gives you a killer pump too. It's the closest thing to Crack I have ever used.

Anyway, even I feel like skipping the gym that day, by the time I've gotten in my car, downed my pills and I'm 1/2 way done with my caffeinated drink I'm ready to roll by the time I hit the gym parking lot.

Today I got out of my car at the gym and I smelled weed. I look over and there's 3 guys I know in an Escalade firing up pre workout. I joined them-had a killer back workout doing 1 arm rows with 150 lb dumbells. Weedies-the breakfast of champions!
 
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RippedRule said:
really? are there other symptoms of iron def?

i take a couple mega men vitamins from gnc each day but apparently they don't have iron. Could it be something that simple? I eat a lot of bread?

Like i said, im unsure of my previous test levels pre-cycle, but 340? I am only 21 and was thinking maybe my body is slowly recovering?


Those multi's do not have enough iron in them
Femiron has 68mgs of iron two tabs per day should be sufficient, i had to take them as i was anemic ,hopfully all thats behind me now.
When my iron was low i had loss of energy ,working out was a chore-sometimes i would just cut it short .
I would try it for 2-3 weeks and see if you feel better,if not i would recommend a blood test.
RADAR
 
yeah i have a bud who's anemic. I don't bruise easily but i guess it's possible. Hmm, I'll probably give it a try. I'm anxious to start this clomid.
 
It may be the clomid also, I hear it causes lots of mood swings in alot of people and mental problems.
 
Adderal if you can get it works wonders for energy...but on the downside it kills your appetite..It's script only for ADD/ADHD..
 
RADAR said:
I take 50mgs of ephedra and a No-Doze or vivarin (200mgs caffeine)
If i'm planning on going super heavy that week i'll throw in some Injectable B12 30 minutes prior to working out.

RADAR

I do the same thing, except I'll take an aspirin with the ephedra and caffeine. It's supposed to extend the half life of the ephedra. But who knows for sure.
 
I would go see another doctor and tell him exactly how you are feeling and have a full range of tests done. I don't really feel right about offering advice otherwise. The fatigue you describe could be any number of things. I don't want to scare you bro, I'm sure it's nothing. Maybe even a slight case of depression, but it's best to talk to the Dr again and go over every little detail of how you are feeling. I hope you feel better and get your drive going again!! - C3
 
anal itch said:
I do the same thing, except I'll take an aspirin with the ephedra and caffeine. It's supposed to extend the half life of the ephedra. But who knows for sure.



ECA stack .. the asprin thins the blood and aids in the uptake of ephedrine , i have'nt read any litature involving the extention of the half life .. might have to check into that .

If you feel like shit after a test run ... stay clear of oxy !! you won't even make it through your workout and if you do .. you'll want to sleep for a week afterwards ... that shit just kills me !! other's might fair well on it but i've learned to stay as far away as possible .. lol
 
When ever I have had these types of problems, they have always been Psychological,

This past year has really been hard, basically did not lift for 9 months, all of the problems were in my head.

I know (in the past) as soon as I start a cycle, after the first shot, I am back on track psychologically.
 
As for adderol, it is amazing, but I try to only use it when I have to cram for a test or two. The body developes a great tolerance for it. But I know what you mean - when I take it, I feel like I can conquer anything - although it's very hard to eat.

In regards to psychological problems, that's what I'm thinking it is more than anything. (along with possibly lower test than before). I'm somewhat of a hypochondriac and can really dwell on things and I've actually developed symptoms that seem very real. After another run of clomid I'll probably have some more tests done and see the results. Doesn't 340 seem a bit on on the test scale for a 21 year old? I notice my sex drive is down as well - but again, could be psychological.
 
Another thing that can cause great fatigue is taking too much zinc. I have found that more than 60mgs / day of zinc after a few days will make me feel very lethargic. I did this once because I added a zinc supplement to my daily multivitamin, not realizing that could be too much zinc, but it was. It's easy to get too much zinc: take a multivitamin plus ZMA and that can do it. It took me weeks to figure out what change in my supplementation caused the fatigue. Now I am really careful with zinc!
 
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