Morality, the World, and You - A Longshot at Intelligent Conversation

[Zirakzigil]

Anyone have a comment on the fucking tome I typed up??

 

[-SD-]

Anyone have a comment on the fucking tome I typed up??

Needing some validation by strangers on the internet? You sound like a kid who raises his hand in class but never gets called on by the teacher. Oh, your tome is cute by the way.

 

[Zirakzigil]

I'm just trying enlighten you folks; I'm trying to draw you out of the pathetic cave that is your realm of thought. I'm betting that about 2 people actually read what I wrote. Read some of the other replies...and tell me who the idiots are.

 

[-SD-]

I'm just trying enlighten you folks; I'm trying to draw you out of the pathetic cave that is your realm of thought. I'm betting that about 2 people actually read what I wrote. Read some of the other replies...and tell me who the idiots are.

Surely an enlightened person such as yourself has better things to do than to go on a trivial crusade on an internet chat board.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Surely an enlightened person such as yourself has better things to do than to go on a trivial crusade on an internet chat board.

Whoever made the claim that enlightened people have better things to do than enlighten the unenlightened? You're all the fuckups that create the most pain and misery in life. It's our job and moral responsibility to help you all learn to think critically.

 

[satanic goatslayer]

I stab things.

 

[§äñît¥ Pôí§ðñ]

i can make it disappear, have no fear

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

I stab things.

Your IQ must be genius level bro...

 

[Lao Tzu]

it all comes down to relativism


for your example, you list a serial killer.

A serial killer commits murder against humans in a non socially constructive fashion. I ASSUME (don't know) that the reason this is wrong is because it threatens the integrity of the social order.

The same serial killer could be a soldier & be given medals for committing murder. Or he could be born in ancient greece and like killing his slaves, in that case it would be ok too. Or he could be an exterminator in this age, killing non humans. that is considered ok too.

To me, his killing is wrong because it threatens what we want, which is what emotions are. what we want, what is important, what isn't.

right & wrong are just a result of emotions anyway. And emotions are basically arbitrary in existence (not arbitrary in action, but their existence is arbitrary). In essense, we are stranded on a rock, tricked into unnatural perspectives to service a highly amoral purpose (evolution) in an emotionless existence. Hard to explain what i mean. evolution invented emotions and evolution isn't universal (i don't think).

I don't consider something wrong unless it threatens the status quo or causes suffering. But even that is just a signal that i am a good lil' citizen, only concerned with suffering that affects the survival of the social order. I don't care too much about people in the 3rd world, where a $15 donation could prevent a lifetime of disease.

 

[Stryc-9]

This is a shameless link to a post I made a few months back....explaining what I consider to be the most significant problems with moral relativism....

Moral relativism generally leads people to accept absurd conclusions that they wouldn't normally agree to...

For more - check out this thread:

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=110777&highlight=is+morality+relative