Morality, the World, and You - A Longshot at Intelligent Conversation

[WODIN]

The ultimate goal of the buddist should be to live a live of Ahymsa (sp?). A state of "no harm" to anything.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Good and Evil is inherint in us all. You simply can not have one without the other.

Those that are capable of the MOST GOOD are also the ones capable of the MOST EVIL.... the only question is which does that individual allow to materialize in THIER deeds?

It took me a long time to come to grips with this... to admit that I am a good person, but embrace my dark side without feeling that I am evil.

When my children misbehave I tell them to put "Bad (insert child's name) outside or to put her away" and let "Good ____" rule thier deeds.... It is amazingly simple, but the child understands completely and alters their behavior.... Or I simply sequester them to their room until they are ready to control their behavior...

 

[aurelius]

The ultimate goal of the buddist should be to live a live of Ahymsa (sp?). A state of "no harm" to anything.

what is harm?

 

[WODIN]

what is harm?

Anything that would cause the destruction of life of another living creature.

 

[Franco C]

If everything is arbitrary-then why is this "bad" or "wrong".

Very simple, there is no "right" or "wrong". Your nature is your nature, morality and the governing placebo of what decides right or wrong is idealism at its best. Morality only falls into place after an institution of law is established. Chivarly is dead, even it was alive that still wouldn't account for much, because morally or not, there is a cause - even if it's pure joy in victimizing.

 

[Franco C]

Perhaps you missed the post when I replied about my own personal feelings on that matter; and I thank you for ramming words into my mouth. I'm simply arguing from a philosophical point of view.

 

[Franco C]

I didn't say what I agree with, I'm saying without an institution of law morality doesn't exist period; because no standards are set, and any standings that would be invented or personally held would be culled from that fact that we once were governened by set morals. If we all grew up being taught to do (some immoral act) and taught that it was ok, then it would be.

 

[Franco C]

bump, good thread, want to hear more replys

 

[Franco C]

sorry bro, its kinda weird that people on here seem to have their own personal view outside the philosophical answers they retort.

Not saying you are doing that..but it does bring up another viewpoint..that I think this post is triing to elicit..

its weird-alot of people say that there is no God..or that morals are only societal influenced.

Well in other countries...there are alot of unhappy women with their society rules and morals..

Like they always say"there are no athesists in a fox hole" "everone is tough untill they are infront of a judge".

I was more leaning towards how morality would fall into place if we objectively viewed "humans" as an animal species void of feeling/emotions. Now, as far as atheists are concerned, for the most part I don't know if they practice what they preach. Religion in general has a lot of contradictions and inconsistenties. How anyone can say there isn't a greater spiritual or what have you being is beyond me. Atheists tend to equate god(s) with a panacea solution and then argue oh well science can't do it so why can they. First off, why would someone assume that a god would think the way we think? I'm sure the thought process is extremely different. Who created god? Well why couldn't after millions of years by almost impossible random figures, create one being, who had the ability to create and destroy matter, and over the millinenia, developed and created everything else. Or even life on another planet before us, regardless something/someone is "above us" whether that is an alien, person, or light it is still "god" and regardless of religion there is a universal one.

 

[aurelius]

Anything that would cause the destruction of life of another living creature.

Even unintended?

what about killing a wounded animal?