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Modest Improvement...but Want More!

zxe003

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Modest Improvement...but Want More! HELP!

I'm 24 Yrs Old...weighing In At 270lbs, 5'11". I've Been Lifting Seriously For About 2 Yrs Now, With A 5 Month Break Last Year When My Son Was Born. I've Been Hittin The Gym With Religious Dedication, And I'm Fairly Happy With My Progress, But I'm A Little Frustrated Because Even Though I've Got Some Good Size, I Know My Lifts Are Far From Up To Par. Currently I'm Liftin 265x8 (reps) With A 315max On Bench...105's For Dumbells, Curling 90x8 (reps), Reppin 315 For Deads And Seriously Neglecting My Wheels. I Only Do Cardio About Twice A Week (which Is Another Fault Of Mine). My Main Focus Is Bb Not So Much Powerlifting...but I Still Definitely Want To Be Moving Some Serious Poundages! I Get My Protein In, Have A Fairly Good Diet, Supplement Extra Vitamins And Minerals And Have A Pretty Consistent Sleeping Pattern. Any Suggestions Out There For Boosting Those Strength Gains Even Quicker?

-not Quite Ready Yet For The Juice...so Any Alternatives Would Be Greatly Accepted! ;)
 
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Re: Modest Improvement...but Want More! HELP!

zxe003 said:
I'm 24 Yrs Old...weighing In At 270lbs, 5'11". I've Been Lifting Seriously For About 2 Yrs Now, With A 5 Month Break Last Year When My Son Was Born. I've Been Hittin The Gym With Religious Dedication, And I'm Fairly Happy With My Progress, But I'm A Little Frustrated Because Even Though I've Got Some Good Size, I Know My Lifts Are Far From Up To Par. Currently I'm Liftin 265x8 (reps) With A 315max On Bench...105's For Dumbells, Curling 90x8 (reps), Reppin 315 For Deads And Seriously Neglecting My Wheels. I Only Do Cardio About Twice A Week (which Is Another Fault Of Mine). My Main Focus Is Bb Not So Much Powerlifting...but I Still Definitely Want To Be Moving Some Serious Poundages! I Get My Protein In, Have A Fairly Good Diet, Supplement Extra Vitamins And Minerals And Have A Pretty Consistent Sleeping Pattern. Any Suggestions Out There For Boosting Those Strength Gains Even Quicker?

-not Quite Ready Yet For The Juice...so Any Alternatives Would Be Greatly Accepted! ;)



Hey brother!! Welcome to the boards! The main thing to remember is be patient Thats the hardest part for me personally. That and eating enough! Im going for a minimum of 220 grams of protein daily, at a bodyweight of 188-191lbs. Id reccomend atleast one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, but more would be preferrable. Carbs and fat intake can be manipulated pretty easily if you are looking to lean out some. Your goals seem to be bodybuilding related however, with an emphasis on "building" and also moving heavy poundages. These also, are my same goals. Im going into my 10th straight year of lifting, (since I was 14) and am still far from my goals. Very few of us will ever be satisfied. There was a time when I told myself 16" arms would be "respectable", then when I got there, they were way too small, then it was 18", now that Im there, its still way too small. Now Im looking to 19 and 20", but when I get there Im sure the pattern will continue. My arms were around 10" when I started, but its taken alot of time, and has been very gradual. Ive been plateaud in upper body size for the last few years, excluding arms. Its all about experimentation and trial and error, to find what works best for you diet-wise and training-wise. This is why Ive taken my own path in my lifting journey. Someone elses routine is not going to fit me exactly. I can benefit from incorporating ideas and trying new routines, but ultimately I have to stick to what works best for me. Thats the only way I will be able to expand on my natural limits. My methods are deemed as overtraining by most, but they are what works for me. Anything less is undertraining for me, followed by a rapid decrease in size and strength.
Im also mostly nocturnal. I dont eat 6 meals a day. I eat 3-5 large meals. Usually between 3-4 meals. Ill drink 64oz milk ontop of that as well. I dont follow any of the rules. I just do whats worked for me. And constantly test new techniques. When it comes down to optimum growth and strength I think you have to feel out your body, and what works best for you, while incorporating other useful ideas and techniques, throwing away the worthless ones. Im not sure what type of routine youre on, but this one is what Ive gained the bulk of my size on, and alot of strength as well. Its a very flexible routine, and the rep ranges are really up for experimentation, since everyone responds differently. These principles are still at the foundation of my routine, even though its been majorly customized and altered to fit my goals. Heres the routine:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=308120

Hope that helps!!
 
Re: Modest Improvement...but Want More! HELP!

WalkingBeast said:
Hey brother!! Welcome to the boards! The main thing to remember is be patient Thats the hardest part for me personally. That and eating enough! Im going for a minimum of 220 grams of protein daily, at a bodyweight of 188-191lbs. Id reccomend atleast one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, but more would be preferrable. Carbs and fat intake can be manipulated pretty easily if you are looking to lean out some. Your goals seem to be bodybuilding related however, with an emphasis on "building" and also moving heavy poundages. These also, are my same goals. Im going into my 10th straight year of lifting, (since I was 14) and am still far from my goals. Very few of us will ever be satisfied. There was a time when I told myself 16" arms would be "respectable", then when I got there, they were way too small, then it was 18", now that Im there, its still way too small. Now Im looking to 19 and 20", but when I get there Im sure the pattern will continue. My arms were around 10" when I started, but its taken alot of time, and has been very gradual. Ive been plateaud in upper body size for the last few years, excluding arms. Its all about experimentation and trial and error, to find what works best for you diet-wise and training-wise. This is why Ive taken my own path in my lifting journey. Someone elses routine is not going to fit me exactly. I can benefit from incorporating ideas and trying new routines, but ultimately I have to stick to what works best for me. Thats the only way I will be able to expand on my natural limits. My methods are deemed as overtraining by most, but they are what works for me. Anything less is undertraining for me, followed by a rapid decrease in size and strength.
Im also mostly nocturnal. I dont eat 6 meals a day. I eat 3-5 large meals. Usually between 3-4 meals. Ill drink 64oz milk ontop of that as well. I dont follow any of the rules. I just do whats worked for me. And constantly test new techniques. When it comes down to optimum growth and strength I think you have to feel out your body, and what works best for you, while incorporating other useful ideas and techniques, throwing away the worthless ones. Im not sure what type of routine youre on, but this one is what Ive gained the bulk of my size on, and alot of strength as well. Its a very flexible routine, and the rep ranges are really up for experimentation, since everyone responds differently. These principles are still at the foundation of my routine, even though its been majorly customized and altered to fit my goals. Heres the routine:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=308120

Hope that helps!!


thanks for the tips...I'll check out that routine and let you know how it goes.
 
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