Methyltrienolone (Oral Tren) Only Cycle Log

[Mach250]

In my attempts to find a short oral cycle to gain some lean mass while dropping some bf I came accross Methyltrienolone (Oral Tren). I have had some experience with Tren in the past and loved its ability to put on quality mass and drop bf effectively on a reduced calorie diet. From my research of MT I was supprised at the lack of complete reviews and cycle logs, so I decided to start a log of my upcoming cycle. I am fully aware that MT is highly liver toxic but feel at a relative low does of 500 mcg /day the damaging effects can be controled with liver supplements. I am also aware that MT will reduce/shutdown the body's natural hormone production and would be benefitial to run Test alongside. PLEASE NO COMMENTS REGARDING USING TEST ALONG WITH MT OR ON THE TOXICITY OF MT. This log is simply to record my results from the MT only cycle and compare to the other compounds I have experience with especially injectable Trenbolone.

As I know I will receive several questions regarding my background, here is a summary.

Cycle History - 5 relatively short 8-9 week cycles including injectables and orals (one a year during college, currently 30 yo).

1) Sust @ 250 mg / 5 days, Deca @ 250 mg / 5 days, D-bol @ 25mg / day (kickstart), normal PCT including Clomid and Nolva.
- Gains ~25lbs, kept ~15 lbs
2) Test E @ 250 mg / 5 days, Tren Fort (long ester Tren) @ 200 mg / 5 days, Winstrol @ 50 mg / day (finish), normal PCT including Clomid and Nolva.
- Gains ~15lbs, kept ~8 lbs
3) Test P @ 100 mg EOD, Tren A @ 100 mg EOD, T-Bol @ 50 mg / day (first 3 weeks), normal PCT including Clomid and Nolva.
- Gains ~12lbs (lean 9% bf), kept ~8lbs
4) BB contest prep cycle - Test P @ 100 mg EOD, Tren A @ 100mg EOD, Winstrol (oral) @ 50 mg / day (last 4 weeks), Masteron @ 100mg EOD (last 3 weeks), Letrozole @ 2.5 mg ED (last 2 weeks), Clenbuterol on and off throught cycle. normal PCT including Clomid and Nolva.
- Gains ~12 lbs (lean 8% bf) (may post some pictures if i can edit my face out)
5) Recent oral cycle. Turanabol @ 100mg / day, Winstrol (oral) @ 100 mg /day. (4 weeks long).
- Gains ~ 6 lbs (12 % bf). Small but probably not needed PCT of Clomid for 3 weeks.

Current stats; 5"6, 165 lbs, ~ 13% bf. Lifting consistently for the last 6 years with different focuses (ie strength training, bodybuilding, and endurance traning).

I chose MT for several reasons. I did not want to deal with an injection schedule and can obtain quality results in short time period. Similar/ possibly stronger results than inj Tren. Does not convert. Extremely cheap (I got 200 tabs @ 250 mcgs for $20) and finnaly bc it's that mythical strong compound that has lots of bro-science but little real time recorded results!

Planned cycle starting next week -

Methyltrienolone (Oral Tren) @ 500 mcg / day. Weeks 1-4
Clenbuterol up to 100 mcg / day. Weeks, 1-2, 4-5.
Clomid @ 100 mg /day. Weeks 5-7

I have some small existing gyno from my previous cycles so I will have Letro on hand if needed to eliminate any estrogen (I know MT does not convert) in case of raised Prolactin levels.

Again pelase no comments regarding using Test along with MT or on the toxicity of MT. This log is simply to record my results from the MT cycle and compare to the other compounds I have experience with especially injectable Trenbolone. Looking forward to hopefully sharing a possitve cycle with everyone!

 

[Mach250]

Day 1 (5th ): My rat was getting anxious so he started early!

Age - 30 yo
Height - 5"5
Weight - 164lbs
Dose - 375 mcgs MT @ 3:00 pm
Cardio – 8:00 am
Weight Training – Legs @ 7:00 pm
Support Supplements – Liv 52, B6, Opti Men, and Taurine

Cardiovascular – No change
Cognitive Function – No change
Pump – No change
Vascularity - No change
Strength – Slight increase (most likely placebo effect)
Endurance – No change
Energy – Noticed increase in energy and alertness ~ 1 hour post ingestion.
Intensity (during training) – No change
Urine – No change
Body Temp/sweating – Slight increase in sweating.
Heart Rate – Felt slightly elevated at rest.
Night sweats – None
Sleep – No change
Additional Side effects – None

Decided to leave clen out for first week to see how I react to the MT. Bumping MT dose up to 500mcgs on day 2.

 

[Mach250]

Day 3 (7th ):

Height - 5"5
Weight – 165 lbs
Dose - 250 mcgs MT @ 9:00 am, 250mcgs MT @ 4:00 pm
Cardio – None
Weight Training – Back/Bi’s @ 7:00 pm
Support Supplements – Liv 52, B6, Opti Men, and Taurine

Cardiovascular – No change
Cognitive Function – No change
Pump – Increased pump.
Vascularity – No change.
Strength – Slight increase
Endurance – No change
Energy – Continue to feel boost in energy and alertness post ingestion.
Intensity (during training) – Increased
Urine – No change
Body Temp/sweating – elevated body temp and sweating
Heart Rate – Still slightly elevated at rest
Night sweats - None
Sleep – No change
Libido - Slightly decreased
Additional Side effects – Some noticeable aggression/irritability, though easily controllable

Day 4 (8th): 125 mcgs @ 9:00 am, 125 mcgs @ 4:00 pm.
Training Rest Day

 

[25homes]

Y not albuterol in place of clen bro

 

[BobMarshal]

Are getting blood work done to see what damage the MT is doing to your liver? If you aren't you are crazy.

 

[gymrat827]

watch out man....i ran GP oral tren and i only made it 9 days.

 

[Mach250]

25homes - Its personal preference. Seen several studies that show results can be had with both and that Albuterol usually has fewer sides but I feel Clen is supierior in its ability to be anti-catabolic and increase metabolism.

Quote from a reputable book regarding PEDs.
"Clenbuterol, on the other hand, is far better than Albuterol when it comes to gaining body strength and muscle power. Moreover, this weight and fat loss drug is more potent than Albuterol when it comes to fat burning properties. In addition to that, Clen is cheaper and easily available and can be taken once or twice a day unlike Albuterol that needs to be taken thrice a day. In other words, Albuterol is the weaker version of Clenbuterol but with fewer side effects. Use of this weight and loss drug is associated with anti-catabolic properties that are not seen with Albuterol and Clen is commonly used with T3 Cytomel (12.5-25.0 mcg per day). "

bobmarshal - I am not currently having any liver enzyme levels checked. I have obtained the necessary forms to do so through my physician if I feel needed at any point. I know there is potential for stress on the liver but feel with responsible dosaging, adequate liver support supplements, increased water intake and continual monitoring the body for early signs of damage that I can continue safely. I have cycled much larger amounts of orals that I believe were much more taxing on my liver with these protocals with success (100mg T-bol & 100mg Winstrol ED for 5-6 weeks).

gymrat827 - Thanks for the warning, I am definatly taking this seriously. Day 6 and going strong. . . . .

 

[Mach250]

Day 4 (8th): 125 mcgs @ 9:00 am, 125 mcgs @ 4:00 pm. Training Rest Day
Day 5 (9th ):

Weight – 163lbs
Dose - 250 mcgs MT @ 9:00 am, 375 mcgs MT @ 4:00 pm
Cardio – HIIT @ 6:30 am
Weight Training – Chest/Abs @ 7:00 pm
Support Supplements – Liv 52, B6, Opti Men, and Taurine

Cardiovascular – No change
Cognitive Function – No change
Pump – Increased muscle fullness during training.
Vascularity – No Change
Strength – Slight increase
Endurance – Increase in muscle endurance during weight training.
Energy – Increased alertness and feel energized post ingestion.
Intensity (during training) – Increased
Urine – Clear
Body Temp/sweating – elevated body temp and sweating
Heart Rate – Still slightly elevated at rest
Night sweats – None
Sleep – Good sleep
Additional Side effects – Some noticeable aggression/irritability, though easily controllable.

Notes – capping dosage at 750 mcgs/day.

 

[Mach250]

Day 6 (10th ):

Height - 5"5
Weight – 164 lbs
Dose - 375 mcgs MT @ 9:00 am, 375 mcgs MT @ 4:00 pm
Cardio – None
Weight Training – Legs @ 7:00 pm
Support Supplements – Liv 52, B6, Opti Men, and Taurine

Cardiovascular – No change
Cognitive Function – No change
Pump – Increased pump. Dramatic increase in blood flow to targeted muscles.
Vascularity – No Change
Strength – Increased
Endurance – Increased.
Energy – Increased.
Intensity (during training) – Considerably increase
Urine – Normal
Body Temp/sweating – elevated body temp and sweating.
Heart Rate – Still slightly elevated at rest
Night sweats – None
Sleep – Very good sleep still. May be due to more energy expended during training from increased intensity.
Recovery – Noticed soreness has been greatly reduced. Feel I can recover from punishing training session in a day or less.
Limbido – Slightly decreased.

Additional Side effects – Increased aggression and irritability but easily controllable. Some very minor acne – face/sholders. Noticed overall feeling of tightness across major muscle groups. Also starting to noticed a reduction in subcutaneous fluid.

 

[gymrat827]

Day 6 (10th ):

Height - 5"5
Weight – 164 lbs
Dose - 375 mcgs MT @ 9:00 am, 375 mcgs MT @ 4:00 pm
Cardio – None
Weight Training – Legs @ 7:00 pm
Support Supplements – Liv 52, B6, Opti Men, and Taurine

Cardiovascular – No change
Cognitive Function – No change
Pump – Increased pump. Dramatic increase in blood flow to targeted muscles.
Vascularity – No Change
Strength – Increased
Endurance – Increased.
Energy – Increased.
Intensity (during training) – Considerably increase
Urine – Normal
Body Temp/sweating – elevated body temp and sweating.
Heart Rate – Still slightly elevated at rest
Night sweats – None
Sleep – Very good sleep still. May be due to more energy expended during training from increased intensity.
Recovery – Noticed soreness has been greatly reduced. Feel I can recover from punishing training session in a day or less.
Limbido – Slightly decreased.

Additional Side effects – Increased aggression and irritability but easily controllable. Some very minor acne – face/sholders. Noticed overall feeling of tightness across major muscle groups. Also starting to noticed a reduction in subcutaneous fluid.

i had the same thing. dries u out good.

how many mcg do you plan to goto??

 

[John Juan]

This is the strongest compound I've ever used. I'd sweat buckets while training with a road map of veins and a desire to murder people. Hahaha

Next experiment, try trestolone acetate at 100mg per day. It's the most amazing compound ever and an anabolic to androgenic ratio not far off methyltrienolone. You feel great on trestolone. I feel it's a much better muscle builder.

Very cool log!!!

 

[stevesmi]

please make sure you get caber from ag guys and n2guard from NTBM on tren... its a must

 

[Petkevich]

MT is pretty damn strong. I ran it for 2 weeks and gained 10 pounds and was hard as a rock. I eventually lost most of it cuz it was gained so quickly. It would be a great precontest drug but other than that I think the gains you get are too hard to keep. Maybe it would be good to use during the 2 weeks you are waiting for the ester to clear with test e to polish off a cycle. I used it alone to see how I would react. It is more liver toxic then others. If you use liver supps you will be good but I personally wouldn't use it longer than 2-3 weeks or it will wreck your lipids too much.

 

[Mach250]

Yeah, Im enjoying the dry look. Usually when I try to remove some unwanted water i tend look flat. But with the MT its pulling some watter away from the skin but the muscles are still full. Loving it.

Im currently at 750 mcgs/ day split into two doses. Im considering going up to 1mg/day but for now I'm going to stay where I am.

 

[RickRock13]

I'm interested in how this goes for you. Sounds like harsh stuff, but I'm sure it gives great results

 

[Mach250]

Yeah I love it. Usually when I try to remove some excess water I end up looking flat but the MT is keeping the muscles full.

Im considering going up to 1mg/day but Im staying at 750mcgs for now.

How much did you get up to?

 

[Mach250]

Stevesmi - I did end up getting some Caber as the prolactin sides were getting a little anoying (but could easily had put up with them).

JJ - I know what you mean about the desire to murder people. Felt like an animal in the gym last night. Love the aggression and intensity. Trestolone acetate looks awesome from what I have read, may have to try it.

 

[Mach250]

Day 7 (11th ):

Height - 5"5
Weight – 165 lbs
Dose - 375 mcgs MT @ 9:00 am, 375 mcgs MT @ 4:00 pm
Cardio – None
Weight Training – Shoulders/Traps @ 7:00 pm
Support Supplements – Liv 52, B6, Opti Men, and Taurine

Cardiovascular – No change
Cognitive Function – No change
Pump – Increased pump.
Vascularity – Small increase in arms and shoulders.
Strength – Increased
Muscle endurance – Increased.
Energy – Starting to feel a little lethargic in the early afternoon.
Intensity (during training) – Increased.
Urine – Normal
Body Temp/sweating – Elevated body temp. Sweating during the day has slowed down.
Heart Rate – Normal
Night sweats – First night sweat last night. Not nearly as bad as I have had before but awoke and was wet. Didn’t affect sleep much I was able to fall back asleep quickly.
Recovery – Recovery time is almost nothing. I’m able to train harder for longer and more often without fear of debilitating soreness the next day/2 days. This is really allowing me to push myself.
Libido – Decreased but still there.
Additional Side effects – Minor acne on face/sholders.


Day 8 (12th ):

Height - 5"5
Weight – 165 lbs
Dose - 375 mcgs MT @ 9:00 am, 375 mcgs MT @ 4:00 pm
Cardio – None
Weight Training – Core Training/Misc @ 7:00 pm
Support Supplements – Liv 52, B6, Opti Men, and Taurine

Cardiovascular – No change
Cognitive Function – No change
Pump – Increased.
Vascularity – Increased.
Strength – Increased
Muscle endurance -
Energy –Feeling lethargic in the morning and early afternoon.
Intensity (during training) – Decreased, mainly due to the lethargic feeling. Trying to stay motivated and using preworkout supplements for additional energy.
Urine – Normal
Body Temp/sweating – Elevated body temp.
Heart Rate – Normal
Night sweats – Occasional night sweats.
Recovery – Recovery time is amazing. Little to no soreness or pain following training.
Libido – Decreased but still there.
Additional Side effects – Minor acne on face/sholders. Skin oil is elevated but controllable by rinsing face a few times throught the day.

Day 9 (13th ):

Height - 5"5
Weight – 166 lbs
Dose - 250 mcgs MT @ 9:00 am, 250 mcgs MT @ 4:00 pm
Cardio – None
Weight Training – Rest Day

Day 10 (14th ):

Height - 5"5
Weight – 166 lbs
Dose - 375 mcgs MT @ 9:00 am, 375 mcgs MT @ 4:00 pm
Cardio – HIIT @ 6:30 am
Weight Training – Rest Day
Support Supplements – Liv 52, B6, Opti Men, and Taurine

Day 11 (15th ):

Height - 5"5
Weight – 166 lbs
Dose - 375 mcgs MT @ 9:00 am, 375 mcgs MT @ 4:00 pm
- 40 mcgs Clen @ 7:00 am
Cardio – None
Weight Training – Chest/Abs @ 7:00 pm
Support Supplements – Liv 52, B6, Opti Men, and Taurine

Cardiovascular – No change
Cognitive Function – No change
Pump – Increased pump.
Vascularity – Increased in arms and hands.
Strength – Increased
Muscle endurance – Increased.
Energy – Lethargic in mornings and late afternoons.
Intensity (during training) – Increased.
Urine – Normal
Body Temp/sweating – Elevated body temp.
Heart Rate – Normal
Night sweats – Night sweats are brief and easy to ignore
Recovery – Recover time is down to nothing but feeling some strain on joints/tendons.
Libido – Decreased but still there.
Additional Side effects – Aggression can get bad after dosing, to mitigate I am going to split the dosages into three equal doses to minimize blood level spikes. This seems to keep the aggression controllable.

Day 12 (16th ):

Height - 5"5
Weight – 167 lbs
Dose - 250 mcgs MT @ 8:00 am, 250 mcgs MT @ 12:00 pm, 250 mcgs MT @ 5:00 pm
- 40mcgs Clen @ 7:00 am
Cardio – None
Weight Training – Back/Bi’s @ 7:00 pm
Support Supplements – Liv 52, B6, Opti Men, and Taurine

Cardiovascular – No change
Cognitive Function – No change
Pump – Back pumps and sholder pumps are great. Similar to D-bol pumps bot not as extreme.
Vascularity – No change
Strength – Increased
Muscle endurance – Increased.
Energy – Continue to feel lethargic in the morning and late afternoons.
Intensity (during training) – Greatly increased, mainly due to increased aggression and strength.
Urine – Normal
Body Temp/sweating – Elevated body temp.
Heart Rate – Elevated (clen)
Night sweats – Some sweating during sleep but ignorable.
Libido – Decreased.
Additional Side effects – Some joint and tendon soreness.

 

[gymrat827]

stuff is crazy.

 

[Jgunz]

I know I'm new and Im sorry to bump up an old thread but wtf happened? Did this guy die or something? I want to know what happened??

 

[LifeIsGood830]

I know I'm new and Im sorry to bump up an old thread but wtf happened? Did this guy die or something? I want to know what happened??

Guess it's not gonna happen lol. I'd like to know too.. I'm 8 days in in a MT cycle right now and would have like to have seen this guys end results...

 

[j_p]

man this is one i say just stick to tren shots... not worth it for oral tren IMO

 

[zmyj88]

That's one that you can feel killing you haha results, yes, but jesus there has to be a line. Mines right past tren ace