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havoc said:
If you could label my faith then I would of put a known religion instead of the word "faith" that you quoted. To me, my faith = how I think.
My faith cannot be labeled and never will be. To label a faith is to limit a faith, which shows intolerance.

Next!

Don't agree w/ much you said... but w/ the statement above I agree 100% and then some.
 
OMEGA said:
" The only thing that makes the emptyness bearable is each other"

Kind of ironic that the emptiness only becomes unbearable for me when I make contact with the outside world. =)

-Warik
 
havoc said:
If you could label my faith then I would of put a known religion instead of the word "faith" that you quoted. To me, my faith = how I think.
My faith cannot be labeled and never will be. To label a faith is to limit a faith, which shows intolerance.

Next!

I agree with you havoc about this..

Why do people have to put a label on religion?
I never understood this. I always thought if you
believe in something higher than yourself, that
should be enough.

Just because people get ready and go to church every
Sunday doesn't mean they are more spiritual.

The meaning of life means to me.
We are all here to learn lessons.
How to become more spiritual.
 
Warik said:


Are 'needs' and 'wants' absolute, or relative to the individual? If they are relative to the individual, then how does one distinguish between a 'need' and a 'want?' If they are absolute, then does the pursuit of a 'want' guarantee suffering? Finally, if focusing on 'need' helps to eliminate suffering, then why is the most suffering in the world located in countries where people are still focusing on their 'needs' and have yet to even consider a 'want?'

-Warik

needs are not relative, but are necessary for survival......ie...food shelter, etc. wants are superfulous, and should only be entertained when needs are fulfilled.

the pursuit of want only entails suffering when those wants interfere with the needs of others.

most of the world suffering is located in countries such as the 3rd world who are still paying the price for colonialisms "need" for new markets to feed the "wants" of those respective 1st world colonial powers....the suffering continues.....in the form of 3rd world debt due to loans from the IMF and World bank......the "wants" of a few continue to overpower needs of the many.....illogical is it not?

OMEGA
 
"What does the worker gain from his toil?
I have seen the burden God has laid on men.
He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also
set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what
God has done from begining to end. I know there is nothing better
then for men to be happy and do good while they live. That everyone may
eat and drink and find satisfaction in all his toil - this is the gift of God.
I know that everything God does will endure forever; nothing can be added
to it and nothing taking from it. God does it so that men will revere him."

Ecclesiastes 3:9-14
 
Warik said:


Are 'needs' and 'wants' absolute, or relative to the individual? If they are relative to the individual, then how does one distinguish between a 'need' and a 'want?' If they are absolute, then does the pursuit of a 'want' guarantee suffering? Finally, if focusing on 'need' helps to eliminate suffering, then why is the most suffering in the world located in countries where people are still focusing on their 'needs' and have yet to even consider a 'want?'

-Warik

But Warik, isn't "suffering" relative to the individual, just as needs and wants are?

Do all mentally retarded people "suffer?" I would venture to say no. Some are not even aware of their own existence. Now, to you, from your reference point, they are suffering, but in their own minds they may not be. Likewise, do children in third world countries know they are suffering? I doubt they do because they have never been happy. So, like you say, it is all relative to the individual what suffering is.

You sit in your nice house, and you take a shower and eat good food everyday, so you automatically assume that people with no running water and little food are suffering. But that may not be the case. Relative to you, they are underprivileged, but if a child in a third world country has never seen a steak, does he know what he is missing? Is he aware that he is suffering by only having rice to eat? I don't think so.
 
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I agree w/ the whole labeling of religion thing, and refuse to accept it b/c I cannot completely 100% agree w/ any one religion, and I refuse to be labeled.

The apostle paul wrote about this too, people were calling themselves certain names but they all believed in Christ. They just had a few disagreements about stuff so they seperated. So what do we have today? Look at the numerous Christian Denominations we have today? There's sooo many of them.

Then again that doesn't only apply to Christian Denominations. A big part of my family is Muslim, and they have many denominations w/in that as well. Islam was founded by Muhammed, who really tried to bring Christianity and Jews together to form one religion. In that struggle to unite these 2 religions there was a give and take, the end result was Islam. He tried to please both faiths, which was impossible, you can't even please the people of the same faith. That's why we have all these religions and all there so many denominations.
 
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