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McDonalds for bulking???

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Do you guys ever goto McDonalds while bulking? I understand its all very high in saturated fat, but are calories calories?? I get maybe 1-2 meals a week there, and am wondering if I shouldnt...mostly because of time constraints.
 
damn!! there goes my double quarter pounders... :bawling: thanks alot dragon! (j/k)

so double quarter pounders are not worth it even with close to 46 grams protein?
 
I still eat mcdonalds double macs, no way will I not eat them because of the wrong fats, cals, ect, I mean thats what omega oils and flax is good for no?
 
I suppose...there's just no benefit from it. I still eat double quarter pounders but I try to limit it, and if I do I eat it directly after lifting. There's more than 40 g of protein in a double quarter pounder ;). There's like 31 in a regular quarter pounder with cheese. Just watch out for mad cow...but hey man...eating mcdonalds is a way to grow without saying that YOU took steroids :). Just becareful not to get a belly or clog up your arteries.
 
Anything can be okay in moderation. That just proves less so when trying to cut. When you bulk, you can get away with it. I wouldn't use McDonald's as your main source of calories for bulking, however.
 
What other kind of foods do you guys eat when you bulk? I have trouble hitting my 3500-4000 cal/day. I eat ALOT of tuna, chicken, bread, potatoes, etc. but i still fall short pretty regularly unless i throw in something thats super high calorie like a mc deez double quarter.
 
You should really try and avoid doing that. If it is an emergency-type thing that only happens infrequently, I don't see it as a major issue.
 
It depends on the individual's metabolism, the activity level of their lifestyle, and what the remainder of the person's diet consists of.

I can and do do it, and I do not suffer because of it. If anything, I grow more.
 
this is the way i do it... I eat the same clean foods every day which equal about 3500 calories and then I eat about 1000-1500 more of pretty much anything i want except things like candy, soda etc.
 
I've had good success with drinking a gallon of whole milk a day. That has 2500 calories, so it's pretty easy to get 5000+.
 
McDonalds is pretty anabolic shit. I say it is fine when bulking or trying to gain weight, just don't use it as the staple of your diet. I always say junk is okay in moderation, but not excess. I do agree also that it is an individual thing and that some people can get away with it, and others can't. I can get away with it. I am not a bodybuilder, if I was, then I couldn't. But, as far as what I train for, I am happy with the way I look. I am not ripped or even close to it, but I am not a slob either, and my lipid profile is good, blood pressure is on the low side, so I don't concern myelf with diet so much.
 
Calories are not calories, some calories, even though the macronutrient breakdown is the same, have more micro nutrients, so my answer is no Mcdonald's should not be a bulking food unless you are trying to bulk your gut. I argree with argent, if it is a choice between Mcdonalds and missing a meal then go have your happy meal, but you should be able to work around it in most instances.
 
The amount of micronutrients in even what is deemed "healthy" food is woefully low. If micronutrients are a concern (and they should be), use vitamin and mineral suppliments, among others.

As for building a gut, that's amusing. My abs are well-defined year-'round. I eat as much food, "healthy" and "junk", as I can.
 
I agree with Iron Lion in the sense that, if you're choosing between not-so-healthy foods or missing a meal, I'd go with the unhealthy choice. Just do so in moderation. Plan ahead, to make sure you have the meals ready.
 
IronLion said:
sorry king genetics...keep doing what you are doing and good luck
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That's the thing. If you have the genetics, it's acceptable. If you don't, you'd hopefully know it by now. In that capacity, every person must decide for himself.
 
Mmmm.... just ate my double quarter pounder w/cheese.

For me I limit the high sugar foods - those go to my waist line faster than the high fat foods. I'm sure there's people who will disagree, and that's fine. I don't have fancy research papers to prove my point. This has just been my observation on my own body. I used to eat a high carb diet, and I was chubby. Now I eat high fat, high protein, moderate carb and I'm not. And I eat a lot of animal fats, but my blood lipid profile is normal. Maybe that's because I take fish oil capsules. Just my 2 cents.. feel free to blast away. It's working for me, so I'll keep doing it. :)
 
Let's see...irolion eats clean, is very, very, very fast, very flexible, very agile, moderately lean, and stronger than 99% of the people on this board, AND 315 pounds.

I'll have the oatmeal, please. :)

I've always eaten clean when "bulking." Put shit in, get shit out.
 
I ask my body to put up with alot. The least I can do to repay it for keeping up with me is to give it some nutrients to work with.
 
spatts said:
I'll have the oatmeal, please. :)
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I eat oatmeal, especially steel cut oats. I never said I ate low carb, just moderate. I don't eat tons of potatoes, rice, bread like some people when bulking - I find I get bloated and retain lots of water and get fat. IMO dietary fat has gotten a bad rap.
 
hey if eating like shit is working for you then stay with it, but untill you have tried eating relatively clean at the same caloric volume for a reasonable amount of time then how can you really compare the two?
 
when I'm bulking I just want protein every 2 1/2 hours, I dont give a rat's ass what source it comes from. So if I'm on the road and need to eat, fast food will do, if I'm worried about fat, I forgo the combo and get a couple grilled or crispy chicken burgers instead
 
IronLion said:
hey if eating like shit is working for you then stay with it, but untill you have tried eating relatively clean at the same caloric volume for a reasonable amount of time then how can you really compare the two?
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I have spent years eating the same amount clean, but it really doesn't matter anymore. Ad hominem is the special of the day, it seems.
 
Ad hominem, if you want to take it personally

OR

Res ipsa loquitur, if you want to do whatever the hell works.

I generally go with the latter. :)
 
I happen to disagree Boah, but that doesn't mean I am posting against you personally. Like I said good luck with what you are doing
 
Spatts, my current method "works" just fine, and I was saying everyone has their own response, but apparently that's still not uniform enough for some.

So I'll do mine, and keep doing well. However, unlike some, I will refrain from discounting the working methods of others as being "lesser" just because I do not feel they are right for me.

Good? Good.

IronLion, I don't have any problem with disagreement. Yours was fine, and the dissonance of our opinions went well, IMO.

However, the introduction of a small number of examples as a substitute for absolute, wide-spanning "law" set me to thinking that perhaps dissenting opinions are not welcome in some arenas. Namely, this one.

I've seen this happen before, and it's never appreciated by those with open minds. This was the first time it happened to me.

That is all. I'll remove myself from the conversation, and if anyone is moved to delete this or deride it, it can be done as anyone desires.
 
If you are offended by what I said, you may be interested to know that it didn't have anything to do with you. I had the pleasure of training with IronLion this weekend and was paying him a well deserved compliment on his lifestyle and success. I never even read your post.
 
Hey Ironlion, I was curious how you ate, but I found it in another thread.. the "getting bigger and stronger" one - so I bumped it up. I hope you didn't take any of my comments as questioning your methods. I personally had success eating what you would call "junk". I'm not saying my way's the right way to bulk for everyone. I personally have problems if I load up on too many carbs - I'm pre-diabetic so I have serious blood sugar swings.
 
Everyone will have success with something, don't apologize for questioning what I do, that is what you are supposed to do. I only post what works best for me diet wise, I don't hold a degree in nutrition and I don't expect what I do to work for everyone. It just lets people know what I do to get where I am going so they can compare it to what they do and see if they are doing everything they can be doing.
 
Well you know what, I don’t even eat a set amount of protein and cals a day, I just eat like anybody else BUT with one exception, I try to eat high protein foods every 4 hours, till bed, that’s ALL I do, and guess what, it works great, on an average day I probably get around 130-180 or more G's of protein all in *food*, no supp protein at all, so if a greasy burger bakes my cake, im downing it and with a beer calk full of evil calories.. :D

Hell I might even smoke a dub, even after that !

You are what you eat...right?

Damn it works so well, why some of yall complaining?

EVERYONES DIFFERENT!!!!

If it works it works

If it doesn’t, stop eating that shit and ask the bunny for some lettuce and carets...


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I like to eat clean. . .but if I eat really clean for a certain period of time, I tend to get hungry and sick. Eating clean all the time can actually slow down the metabolism. . .it is important to trick the metabolism.
 
spatts said:
LS, it sounds like you consider a clean diet one that's low in carbs?
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Good question. . .

Here is what I consider clean:

1. Foods that provide dense nutrients
2. Foods that burn clean
3. Foods that aren't processed
4. Foods that require little preparation (leave out the butter and other goodies)

When I eat clean, I still eat carbs (potatoes, rice, pastas, and breads). To me, these foods provide good nutrition and yield high energy.

Not eating clean would include:

pizza, ice cream bars, candy bars, fried chicken, and etc.

However, I am putting on mass so I am eating a combination of clean foods and not so clean foods:D

The main key is to eat a diversity of foods to receive adequate nutrition.
 
As for the question about eating clean and getting enough carbs.

I dont have much of a problem there, I drink 2 n-large shakes a day and that has tons of carbs. Lots of sugars too, but a regular potato has tons of carbs so you could eat 2 potatos instead if you wanted to. I eat the heck out of them. I like to bake me some steak fries.

Back to meat and potatos. My meats consist of chicken and tuna mainly, but I throw in steaks every now and then just to change it up a bit and not get burnt out.

I personally dont have much of a problem eating junk food and getting too fat, unless I set around and do nothing, but I have hella high metabolism and my cholesterol is great. The only thing that concerns me about it really is the sodium. Its always high in fast foods.
 
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