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Maybe I should do teh roids....

75th said:
Nah like I said I probably wouldnt go that route.

Although, to be honest, when I see photos of some people who have joosed (juiced, not jewsed) I really do wonder how long and hard they trained before diving in.

My guesstimate, 75% of them use steroids to make up for a lack of knowledge and application of diet and training.

They are the same ones that would not believe you could achieve your physique without steroids.
 
milo hobgoblin said:
Would you like to hightlight the "risk" for us...

Im curious as to your educated opinion on a short term .. moderate dose cycle of various drugs.

But Id agree that he does have a good physique and really doesnt need em for now.

wasting money on bad gear
getting busted
increased chance of injury while lifting
fucking up pct and having hpta issues


are what i consider the risks to be
 
75th said:
Nah like I said I probably wouldnt go that route.

Although, to be honest, when I see photos of some people who have joosed (juiced, not jewsed) I really do wonder how long and hard they trained before diving in.

Well its like a train with four cars -- Diet, Training, Sleep and Hormones. And the train can't go faster than its slowest car. When you're in your 20's and even a good part of your 30's, the chances that your hormones are the slowest car are pretty slim. Now if you're a true bodybuilder with exquisite diet, exercise and sleep then maybe the joose if for joo. But roll the clock forward to 40+ years old... at that point its not hard for your slowest car to be hormones.
 
nimbus said:
wasting money on bad gear
getting busted
increased chance of injury while lifting
fucking up PCT - post cycle therapy - and having hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - issues


are what i consider the risks to be

I do physician-supervised cycles with pharmaceutical gear and HGH. Risks = darn near zero.
 
Tatyana said:
My guesstimate, 75% of them use steroids to make up for a lack of knowledge and application of diet and training.

They are the same ones that would not believe you could achieve your physique without steroids.
I have a fucked up shoulder too.

I like to compare how sweaty and out of breath I am when I finish my workout compared to those around me.

Fuckers.
 
mrplunkey said:
Well its like a train with four cars -- Diet, Training, Sleep and Hormones. And the train can't go faster than its slowest car. When you're in your 20's and even a good part of your 30's, the chances that your hormones are the slowest car are pretty slim. Now if you're a true bodybuilder with exquisite diet, exercise and sleep then maybe the joose if for joo. But roll the clock forward to 40+ years old... at that point its not hard for your slowest car to be hormones.
Maybe wait a decade or two then.

I eat pretty well...my daily intake usually consists of nothing but eggs, tuna, and whole grain rice with a serving of veggies thrown in. 7 egg whites, 1 whole egg, 1 cup of rice = :p .

Every now and then Ill eat a pizza.

I love pizza.
 
75th said:
I have a fucked up shoulder too.

I like to compare how sweaty and out of breath I am when I finish my workout compared to those around me.

Fuckers.

Get the shoulder fixed sooner -- not later. You don't want to be a 45 year old guy recovering from shoulder reconstruction.
 
mrplunkey said:
Get the shoulder fixed sooner -- not later. You don't want to be a 45 year old guy recovering from shoulder reconstruction.
Its as fixed as its gonna get.
 
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