Max Baucus (D) Says He Fears Obamacare Is Headed For 'Huge Train Wreck'

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I was always fond of my vehicles being subsidized. Cant help but think how much cash would still be in my pocket if I didnt have to pay for my motorcycle and car.

 

[Mr. dB]

Jobs, housing, secondary education, food and even entertainment (and the arts) should be rights too by that logic.

I can't help it if you're a lukewarm liberal that doesn't believe in their own philosophy enough to go all-in.

Those are things that individuals can at least sort of afford. But when a successful cancer treatment costs as much as two houses, that puts it out of reach.

I suppose you think the lot of them, including roads, bridges, fire & police, and schools, should be privatized?

Socialized jobs did get us out of the depression though, in the form of armed service and munitions manufacture. I don't suppose there's a large-scale peacetime equivalent to that kind of operation?

 

[gjohnson5]

Mr Plunkey. You need to read the constitution again. Article I section 8 literally says post roads. This means that roads were to be created for postal delivery purposes. Not your silly 10th amendment interpretation where the state creates the roads. This clause gave the feds authority to build roads

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[mrplunkey]

Those are things that individuals can at least sort of afford. But when a successful cancer treatment costs as much as two houses, that puts it out of reach.

I suppose you think the lot of them, including roads, bridges, fire & police, and schools, should be privatized?

Socialized jobs did get us out of the depression though, in the form of armed service and munitions manufacture. I don't suppose there's a large-scale peacetime equivalent to that kind of operation?

Yup. I'm a massive fan of privatization.

And people buying catastrophic health insurance is a great thing as well.

If we owe someone without catastrophic health insurance a cancer treatment if they become afflicted , do we owe a homeowner who refuses to buy insurance a new home in the event of a fire?

 

[gjohnson5]

Yup. I'm a massive fan of privatization.

And people buying catastrophic health insurance is a great thing as well.

If we owe someone without catastrophic health insurance a cancer treatment if they become afflicted , do we owe a homeowner who refuses to buy insurance a new home in the event of a fire?

Catastrophic health insurance may not cover hosptal visits. it may not cover ICU. I know when speaking with United Health this weekend , I needed around 8 different options to be fully covered and that doesn't mean the insurance company drops you.

 

[mrplunkey]

Catastrophic health insurance may not cover hosptal visits. it may not cover ICU. I know when speaking with United Health this weekend , I needed around 8 different options to be fully covered and that doesn't mean the insurance company drops you.

And in today's lesson, we learn a "catastrophic health problem" is not the same as a "hospital visit".

If you want insurance for every conceivable visit, then purchase it -- or does somebody owe you that? This all keeps circling back to somebody who wants something but isn't willing to pay for it.

 

[gjohnson5]

And in today's lesson, we learn a "catastrophic health problem" is not the same as a "hospital visit".

If you want insurance for every conceivable visit, then purchase it -- or does somebody owe you that? This all keeps circling back to somebody who wants something but isn't willing to pay for it.

Which is exactly my point. Suppose you get into a serious car wreak. You may need different coverage for the hospital stay, ER , prescriptions, ICU (if it's that bad) , anasthesia ... the list goes on. The critical coverage is defined by the insurance company so what is covers is different from carrier to carrier.

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I know I used the word "visit" as if it was an voluntary trip to the hospital. That wasn't what I meant.
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[mrplunkey]

Which is exactly my point. Suppose you get into a serious car wreak. You may need different coverage for the hospital stay, ER , prescriptions, ICU (if it's that bad) , anasthesia ... the list goes on. The critical coverage is defined by the insurance company so what is covers is different from carrier to carrier.

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I know I used the word "visit" as if it was an voluntary trip to the hospital. That wasn't what I meant.
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Catastrophic health insurance is very high deductible care. In your catastrophic car wreck example, you'd quickly hit your cap and be done paying.

 

[PICK3]

If you want insurance for every conceivable visit, then purchase it -- or does somebody owe you that?

ololololol! @ Plunkey paying for my DRE's!

 

[mrplunkey]

ololololol! @ Plunkey paying for my DRE's!

It's your right!!!!!!