Matrix Reloaded.......slightly better than 2. only slightly....

[DeepZenPill]

Seems like a lot of people really didn't grasp the Architect's speech in Reloaded. Neo is nothing special. There was "the one" in several incarnations of the matrix. Neo was yet another, but he had a different factor in his decisions: love. The risk of Neo choose to save Trinity was that the anomaly in the matrix would grow out of control, cause some sort of a crash, and kill the humans connected. That was fulfilled in Smith's takeover of everyone, but the machines were able to terminate him once he took over Neo.

Neo's body was taken so that the machines could address the anomaly in the matrix, reboot it, and start anew. But this time those who do not accept the matrix are allowed to be freed and live in Zion in peace.

Somehow people are missing some of the obvious other flaws in the movie, but I don't want to bring them up since I can't answer them

 

[beefybull]

it really makes little sense, unless they were trying to say because smith had absorbed the oracle and the chinese dude he got their mad skillz too....

Uhhh, thats exactly what happened. Thats what allowed The Oracle to destroy Smith at the end. She "did her part". That was the 'trick' the architect spoke of. She told Neo that when the time came, she'd do her part and she did.

Smith laughed when he realized he had the oracles powers and could see almost everything that was going to happen, but he couldnt see "past a choice he didnt understand" (the final fight with Neo). Neo realized that he and Smith could fight forever because they were equally powerful, but he gave up and let himself be absorbed. Neo, the Oracle, and the little pulse that the Machine God sent into Neo helped destroy all of the Smiths.

The Machine City was set in the real world, just like Zion. Neo's powers in the real world were related to the fact that his powers "stretched to the source", where machines came from. So basically, Neo could feel Sentinels and destroy them by thought. Neo fought and destroyed Smith in the Matrix, where Smith had used his powers to turn everyone into copies of himself.

Basically Neo sacrificed himself to save all of mankind (like Jesus). He was destroyed in the Matrix after being duplicated by Smith, which meant his body in the real world (in the Machine City) was also dead. When the Machines carted him away, he was in a position just like Jesus on the cross, with a blindfold instead of a crown of thorns.

Ender - Neo is the original, but I wouldnt call Smith a copy. In the first movie, they killed each other and part of Neo imprinted onto Smith, giving him the duplication powers and simultaneously putting Smith's mind into that guy who tried to kill Neo & Trinity and set off the EMP early.

 

[Biter]

I've read about some interesting cuts that were thrown on the floor for this one, that are supposedly coming out on the DVD. Spoilers warning for the few who haven't seen it***






The scene where Seraph and the girl are overtaken is extended. Not sure of the details, but apparently Seraph goes down fighting.

An actual scene where the Merovingian and his crew are caught by Smith and overtaken. This is an interesting cut. I can see why it would be cut, because it would a) ruin the possibility of the using the Merovingian later, in any other form of media (ala Animatrix, later movies, etc.), and b) it would also draw out the already repetitive takeovers that Smith was doing.

Overall, I dug it, much better than the second.

 

[danielson]

Basically Neo sacrificed himself to save all of mankind (like Jesus). He was destroyed in the Matrix after being duplicated by Smith, which meant his body in the real world (in the Machine City) was also dead. When the Machines carted him away, he was in a position just like Jesus on the cross, with a blindfold instead of a crown of thorns.

it fits qwith the religious theme that final scene
(which was bugging me) had but i didnt twig about the blindfold and thwe thorns...

it seems odd the machines 'locked' onto smith through neo, surely they could have used ANY of the humans in the matrix he seemed to have absorbed....i like the balancing act of the equation but it still doesnt explain why he had to be at the source....im a little perplused by that one

either way the plot on its own just wasnt enough for me. it needed the action to make it, and it just didnt deliver which was a shame

 

[danielson]

I've read about some interesting cuts that were thrown on the floor for this one, that are supposedly coming out on the DVD. Spoilers warning for the few who haven't seen it***






The scene where Seraph and the girl are overtaken is extended. Not sure of the details, but apparently Seraph goes down fighting.

An actual scene where the Merovingian and his crew are caught by Smith and overtaken. This is an interesting cut. I can see why it would be cut, because it would a) ruin the possibility of the using the Merovingian later, in any other form of media (ala Animatrix, later movies, etc.), and b) it would also draw out the already repetitive takeovers that Smith was doing.

Overall, I dug it, much better than the second.

they arre such fools, if they showed seraph go down it might have given the action the neo-smith fight scene missed

 

[Island Son]

An actual scene where the Merovingian and his crew are caught by Smith and overtaken.

Beefy: Smith didn't see past his own choice to take over Neo instead of killing him.

IMHO the Oracle's "candy" was another item that changed Neo's brainwaves so that he could have some communication with the machines and link back through them to the Source. That's why he could see the ships and Smith but not Trinity (she wasn't connected). When he refused the second candy he knew "why" she was offering it therefore understood his choice, and therefore knew the consequences, cause and effect.

But, I don't understand how they were able to kill the Smith virus in all the other people.... by turning Neo's avatar into a bomb?

 

[Biter]

Danielson - agreed. That would have been a kickass fight.

Island - good catch on the candy. I was pondering what that was all about.

 

[sk*]

The third one was NOT better than the second. You guys just like action too much. Plot wise (hell, even action wise), the second was much better.

-sk

 

[EnderJE]

Naw. The third had the scene with the mechs against the flying machines.

That was the best action of the two.

 

[DeepZenPill]

Naw. The third had the scene with the mechs against the flying machines.

That was the best action of the two.

Yep.