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Matrix Reloaded.......slightly better than 2. only slightly....

truism ^ neo also only used his powers "sometimes" like wtf... u don't go from being the shit to useless every 5 seconds... He could beat agents.. why couldn't he beat smith?
 
it really makes little sense, unless they were trying to say because smith had absorbed the oracle and the chinese dude he got their mad skillz too....

but even then hels the fucking one, he should be able to do it. and the fact he can;t take on too many sentinels is lame too. what kind of fucking co-existence is living in zion?

i dont think it was even worth the effects budget....a whole film and the only good bit was the sentinel attack
 
it just seemed to me that his skills were inconsistent throughout the trilogy. They could make a fourth where he supercedes to god level and just owns agents for 2 hrs in perfectly choreographed fight scenes. That'd work for me.
 
the machines were carting him off somewhere though, and they said they expected to see him today, he'll probably come back as some dumb ass cyborg or something

they really slipped up, he's the ONE for fucks sake....and he cant do shit!
 
I thought it simply kicked ass. We watched it on IMAX so that enhanced the experience even more. I was a little confused about the end where the architect told the Oracle that she played a dirty trick. I guess she knew that she would still have some control over Smith's body once she was transformed? Then once Neo became one, since the source was plugged into Neo, did it create a sort of anivirus once Smiths code was known? All in all this trilogy ranks up there with Star Wars as my all time favorite
 
yeah it was fucking awsome.
ITs annoying because it answered NO questions. it made some of the ideas that they hinted at in #2 more obvious, but still answered none of them, directly anyway. Im sure ill see some more when i watch it again.
But i really wish, on just the plain old boring movie level that there was a real conclusion.
Do they continue to live in the whole in the ground?

This is what i got out of it.

From the Matrix 2:
The matrix is recreated regularly
some people reject the matrix
These people are sent to zion
zion slowly builds up and eventually becomes a threat to the machines
machines destory zion
zion is recreated eventually, along with a reset of the matrix

In the end of the last one:
they ask if the people will stay in the matrix, and the answer is something along the lines of "those who want to stay will" does that mean there going to be presented with an obvious choice? (were told they were presented witha subconcious choice in the second one, which is why a small precentage rejected it)
Also they say the war is over for now. the robots promised peace, and we learn that robots cant break there word for whatever reason "do i have your word?" "what do you think i am? human?" so does this mean zion will continue to expand untill the humans decided to attack the machines. as the machines promised the people peace. whats going to happen to the matrix, whats going to happen with zion, will the people come up to the surface?
 
SlavikHavik said:
yeah it was fucking awsome.
ITs annoying because it answered NO questions. it made some of the ideas that they hinted at in #2 more obvious, but still answered none of them, directly anyway. Im sure ill see some more when i watch it again.
But i really wish, on just the plain old boring movie level that there was a real conclusion.
Do they continue to live in the whole in the ground?

This is what i got out of it.

From the Matrix 2:
The matrix is recreated regularly
some people reject the matrix
These people are sent to zion
zion slowly builds up and eventually becomes a threat to the machines
machines destory zion
zion is recreated eventually, along with a reset of the matrix

In the end of the last one:
they ask if the people will stay in the matrix, and the answer is something along the lines of "those who want to stay will" does that mean there going to be presented with an obvious choice? (were told they were presented witha subconcious choice in the second one, which is why a small precentage rejected it)
Also they say the war is over for now. the robots promised peace, and we learn that robots cant break there word for whatever reason "do i have your word?" "what do you think i am? human?" so does this mean zion will continue to expand untill the humans decided to attack the machines. as the machines promised the people peace. whats going to happen to the matrix, whats going to happen with zion, will the people come up to the surface?


You know, that would make for a kickass 4th movie!
 
Stangfriik said:
Then once Neo became one, since the source was plugged into Neo, did it create a sort of anivirus once Smiths code was known? All in all this trilogy ranks up there with Star Wars as my all time favorite

Smith was Neo's opposite. Neo couldn't beat him, because he's just as powerful. He's the negative one, per se. The reason Smith died is the same reason Neo died. Neo tricked him into being absorbed. Remember when the Oracle said that smith was the matrix trying to balance the equation? Let's look at the equation:

N + (-)N = 0

Thus, they both are no more.
 
I was thinking that Smith is the "one" and that Neo was enhanced to compensate. The One is the result of the equation trying to balance itself.

Smith is the original. Neo is the copy.
 
Smith called the Oracle "mom"

The Architect has a habit of not answering questions directly. Did he only say that he wasn't human? That could mean he's only going to keep the peace as long as it's the optimal choice for him. He always had the ability to destroy Zion if it was a problem anyway.

ZKAudio Neo had the power but the consistent theme is that he didn't know what he could do. E.g. he got used to stopping bullets but didn't fully believe he could stop the sword, so he got cut. He bends gravity and flies, but his mind is still conditioned by the Matrix so he doesn't teleport. ("do you think that's air you're breathing now?")

The Merovingian has his own city full of exiles, separate from the normal Matrix. Smith's takeover didn't affect him.
 
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