Math Calculation that shows roughly what your Test level should be while on?

[RickRock13]

Will pin depth make a difference in absorption? For instance I'm pinning 1 in. deep in glutes. Enough?

And I have a new bottle of test cyp/ test e blend 350mg (175mg/175mg) from different source. Ok to make the switch for last 4-6 weeks of this cycle?

Thanks

As long as you are getting the oil into the muscle it makes zero difference. 1 inch into the quads is sufficient

 

[rage22]

Yea! but I hate doing it there lol. Maybe over time it will not be so sore to the muscle. My glutes dont get sore anymore...

 

[dvoted]

Hey guys, I got my bloods checked to see if the gear I was on is G2G, I'm in PCT atm, I got my bloods done on week 3 of my TEST E cycle. I injected 2ml in the morning and 6 hrs later I went to get my bloods done. The results came back at 270nmol/l, which is roughly 7560 ng/dl. Does this sound normal l0l?

Bump

 

[Mh48500]

Here are some numbers Ive seen thrown around...the bottom ones I actually found the clinical report that supported the numbers.

250mg of test a week- T level should be 1100-1600ng/dl
500mg of test a week- T level should be 1800-2500ng/dl
750mg of test a week- levels should be well into the 3000's

According to an official clinical application :

25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl
50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl
125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl
300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl
600mg of test a week- lT level was 2,370 ng/dl

 

[Mh48500]

Hey guys, I got my bloods checked to see if the gear I was on is G2G, I'm in PCT atm, I got my bloods done on week 3 of my TEST E cycle. I injected 2ml in the morning and 6 hrs later I went to get my bloods done. The results came back at 270nmol/l, which is roughly 7560 ng/dl. Does this sound normal l0l?

Bump

How much test were you running, are you running AIs which will effect the number? There are some guidelines to testing gear via bloods, taking into consideration last pin etc. I think you drew blood to soon...anyways here are rules for testing gear from another site.

How to test Testosterone Cypionate or Enanthate

The following protocols must be followed exactly for at least 4 weeks. No other gear or ancillaries may be used during the first 4 weeks. If you have been on either dose for longer than 4 weeks you may get labs 7 days after your last injection.

All injections must be intramuscular (IM). The first week is a front-load.

Testing Protocol-(for labs that only range up to 1,500ng/dl)

Day 1. 300mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 3. 300mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 7. 300mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 14. 300mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 21. 300mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 28. Total Testosterone Blood Draw (must be exactly 7 days after last inject)

Post lab results once you receive them. Please be specific about the dose, ester and protocol you used in your first post.

Passing results should be about 1,345 ng/dl ± 139 ng/dl.


Testing Protocol #2-(for labs that range ABOVE 1,500ng/dL)

Day 1. 600mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 3. 300mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 7. 600mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 14. 600mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 21. 600mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 28. Total Testosterone Blood Draw (must be exactly 7 days after last inject)

Passing results should be about 2,370 ng/dl ± 150.

Failure to follow protocol exactly will result in useless results.

Reference Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men


Pharmacokinetics of Testosterone cypionate Injection

Source: Schulte-Beerbuhl, 1980 Figure. Pharmacokinetics of 200mg Testosterone cypionate injection. Source: Comparison of Testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone in serum after injection of Testosterone enanthate or Testosterone cypionate. Schulte-Beerbuhl M, Nieschlag E. Fertility and Sterility 33 (1980) 201-3.

 

[ephedrajunkie]

Exactly how do AI's effect the test results? What I mean is would they cause a lower test reading then you would other wise have if not on any AI's?

 

[rage22]

Same question as above... Like in my case I was on adex @ .25mg eod. and on test cyp 150mg first 3 injects and then 250mg every inject (mon, thurs)there after up until end of week 7. (had also added masterone for 2 weeks at that point -week 5 to 7-).

Guess my test is not close to that protocol above lol I still sense it being underdosed though

 

[Mh48500]

Let me look for the explanation, but my understanding is that they actually raise the test number...give me a few.

 

[Mh48500]

It looks like it increases your natural test production. Here is an exerpt and then the link to a VERY long but interesting articel on all the shit AIs do to men.

Effects of aromatase inhibition on luteinizing hormone release and testosterone production

It is well known from experimental evidence and from clinical observations that estradiol has powerful effects on gonadotropin release in men. Modulation of plasma estradiol levels within the male physiological range is associated with strong effects on plasma levels of LH through an effect at the level of the pituitary gland [32]. Lowering estradiol levels, by administering an aromatase inhibitor, is associated with an increase in levels of LH, follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) and testosterone [28,29]. Aromatase inhibitors, therefore, have been suggested as a tool to increase testosterone levels in men with low testosterone levels.

RB&E | Full text | Aromatase inhibitors in men: effects and therapeutic options