Marijuana Kills

[enigma4dub]

Fortunately state laws provide a clear cut answer.

exactly. look into it. you can have more than a p in cali.

they are exemptions to propositons 215 and 420

 

[p0ink]

you should do your homework. my prescription allows for much more actually.

and how exactly did you get a script for mm? i agree with the medical marijuana laws being passed 100%...however, since california is giving away scripts for everything from AIDS to sprained ankles...bad shit is going to happen.

why do you think there has been more and more interference by the feds?

i'm not saying i necessarily disagree with any adult being able to smoke marijuana..i'm just saying it brings down too much heat.

so why did you get a script?

 

[enigma4dub]

interference by the feds is because of the policies of the current president and attorney general. which god willing is going to stop if we get a democrat in office.

my prescription is for pain management.

 

[Lestat]

I see a terrible inconsistency here. Several posters on this thread will often do eloquent posts about paying more taxes or making other sacrifices for the greater good. But then when it hits near and dear to home with something like an illegal (yeah, its still illegal) drug like pot, their only answer is to legalize it. Why wouldn't they simply drop the illegal habit for the greater good? Think of that small percentage of people who do get psychologically addicted to pot. And even worse, what about that small percentage of people who use pot as a gateway drug and develop harder drug addictions? Sure the percentages who become dependent or use pot as a gateway are very small, but so are the number of uninsurable people... and the number of homeless... and the number of truly disabled. Why should one group of people (taxpayers) suffer for the greater good yet another group of people (pot users) not sacrifice? Isn't pot supposed to be this casual, take-it-or-leave-it drug anyway? Seems like if you can't simply brush it off for the greater good, you might be one of those very few who have more trouble with it than you think.

I think the legalization of pot will most definitely help the greater good.

Think about it, its been shown to provide relief to people for a lot of medical reasons. Not a cure by any means, but relief.

Also, you can go to a ballgame or concert and drink gallons of beer, which in many cases leads to violence, car accidents, and sometimes sexual assault.

Substitude marijuana for all that booze and we'd have a far happier and more peaceful population!

I do purchase marijuana, and its locally grown by friends. To my knowledge these friends do not funnel these profits back to any sort of terrorist or organized crime organizations. They actually make far less than I do as small growing operations aren't very profitable.

 

[mrplunkey]

I think the legalization of pot will most definitely help the greater good.

Of course you would, because you use it. I don't use it and personally see no value in it. Funny how everyone sees value in their own position.

Think about it, its been shown to provide relief to people for a lot of medical reasons. Not a cure by any means, but relief.

And it makes a great gateway drug for other people. They start with pot and look for more powerful hallucinogens and/or sedatives. And even though it isn't physically addictive, its definitely psychologically addictive. Even if you don't admit it, you know at least one chronic user right now who's been trying to stop his or her pattern of "wake and bake" for a long time.

Also, you can go to a ballgame or concert and drink gallons of beer, which in many cases leads to violence, car accidents, and sometimes sexual assault.

Substitude marijuana for all that booze and we'd have a far happier and more peaceful population!

Or better yet you could snort a crushed-up oxycontin, snort a line of cocaine or take a hit or two of extacy. That would make a lot of people happy too. At least with stimulants, employers wouldn't have to deal with lethargy and loss of initiative by employees. Imagine how many fathers and mothers were well-intended to spend time with their children but got stuck stoned on the couch instead? What is the social cost of that? Sure the same thing can be said of alcohol, but that certainly doesn't justify pot as an alternative.

I do purchase marijuana, and its locally grown by friends. To my knowledge these friends do not funnel these profits back to any sort of terrorist or organized crime organizations. They actually make far less than I do as small growing operations aren't very profitable.

You and I both know that the vast, vast majority of pot is not sold exclusively by dealers. Nor is much of it "locally grown by friends." The truth is, unless you're walking through the field, cutting the plants as you go and bagging them, you have no idea where the pot you're smoking came from.

I really am surprised that a "greater good" guy wouldn't be willing to pass on pot for the overall benefit of society. Someone who can see the larger picture should recognize that a small minority curbing their desires could save countless lives among people who can't integrate drugs into their lives as well.

You'll gladly ask someone to give up 50%+ of their income for the greater good but can't drop recreational drug habit for the same greater good?

 

[p0ink]

interference by the feds is because of the policies of the current president and attorney general. which god willing is going to stop if we get a democrat in office.

my prescription is for pain management.

obama has already stated he is pro-MM, however, he explicitly said he is not going to spend political capital on making it legal on the federal level.

mccain...not sure what his stance is, either.

don't you worry about having your name in some database, though? honestly.

 

[inkspot]

I'm sure we do not know half of the story. If you're going to smoke pot you better know the laws in your state, the states you will travel to and any foreign country you visit. Apparently Rachel didn't. If she did she would have know it was automatic jail time in Florida.

Some advice for those who smoke even casually. First and foremost you better have a good lawyer, well versed in MJ. Second get a medical MJ license; only for a year any longer and you WILL be in a database. With a license in Calif. you can have on your person 8 ounces legally. If you carry an additional license as a caregiver, you can have 1 pound and grow twelve plants. I happen to know two people, who have be pulled over, disclosed when asked if they were carrying, showed license, then released. Lastly and most importantly under NO circumstances have a scale..EVER.

There has been some discussion of what amount is legal. Each state is different..28 grams is just under an ounce, wherever you go.

All I'm saying is be informed and be safe.

 

[Razorguns]

I think the legalization of pot will most definitely help the greater good.

Think about it, its been shown to provide relief to people for a lot of medical reasons. Not a cure by any means, but relief.

Also, you can go to a ballgame or concert and drink gallons of beer, which in many cases leads to violence, car accidents, and sometimes sexual assault.

Substitude marijuana for all that booze and we'd have a far happier and more peaceful population!

I do purchase marijuana, and its locally grown by friends. To my knowledge these friends do not funnel these profits back to any sort of terrorist or organized crime organizations. They actually make far less than I do as small growing operations aren't very profitable.

We've been down this road before.

What you going to do when:

1) H.S. kids smoke pot everywhere and in school. Grades drop.

2) Person smoking weed slams into car killing 13 y/o girl

3) All weed, because it's cheaper, is imported from 3rd world countries where drug cartels enslave locals, kill rivals and govt officials to control their trade. Look up 'diamond trade'.

4) Person smokes weed on sidewalk, and you have to breathe it in every day on your way to work (2nd hand smoke).

5) Your employer now has to deal with workers who come in high. And 10,000 complaints on 'I think my boss is high' come in.

The world is a bit bigger than "I think it should be legal because it makes me feel so good!". There are repurcassions, and as usual, lazy thinkers don't want to think that far ahead.

legalize weed, outlaw alcohol - if you really wanted to go there.

r

 

[inkspot]

We've been down this road before.

What you going to do when:

1) H.S. kids smoke pot everywhere and in school. Grades drop.

kids have been smoking pot in school for decades and the grades are falling. It would be very blind of you to assume falling grades = drugs. Not saying it doesn't play it's part, but high schooler's don't have a chance when the lower grades aren't doing there job.

2) Person smoking weed slams into car killing 13 y/o girl

Bad example when the same thing could happen with alcohol.

3) All weed, because it's cheaper, is imported from 3rd world countries where drug cartels enslave locals, kill rivals and govt officials to control their trade. Look up 'diamond trade'.

How do you figure this? If you can grow your own with a license why go someplace else? Locally grown is cheaper than import in most products.

4) Person smokes weed on sidewalk, and you have to breathe it in every day on your way to work (2nd hand smoke).

Please like this would EVER happen.

5) Your employer now has to deal with workers who come in high. And 10,000 complaints on 'I think my boss is high' come in.

The words "drug testing" comes to mind. What company isn't on that ban wagon.

The world is a bit bigger than "I think it should be legal because it makes me feel so good!". There are repurcassions, and as usual, lazy thinkers don't want to think that far ahead.

I would agree.

legalize weed, outlaw alcohol - if you really wanted to go there.

12 states have legalized laws and our kids still go to school.

r

Just my two cents.

 

[Razorguns]

Your answers don't address the question - just redirect it I could play the same game back at you with every point you made (kids drink beer, so let's make it age-free. No one thought illegal aliens could fly planes into buildings either. When has us-made been cheaper than foreign-made?).

Do you really think non-weed smoking soccer moms give a shit about weed rights? Do you think illegal mexicans do? Do you think corporate america, which controls the president, does? Do you think your boss wants to drag out the weed-tester machine every time an employee acts sleep at work? Do you want every lawyer to appeal guilty verdicts because they think someone on the jury was high?

When it becomes an advantage to society and big business and the government and the healthcare industry - it will.

Right now all those points I said above point to a disadvantage, so no - it will never be legal, ever, and for good reasons.

r